Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:03:57PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: The display manager starts the X server, not the other way around, which means that the X server has no control over the display manager's behavior; and the authentication failure you reported came from the display manager and

Re: Obsolete software in /usr/local

2001-01-07 Thread Greg Stark
Ben Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:49:07PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote: I've been meaning to bring this up for a while: Why on earth was this change ever made? I can't speak for whoever made the change, but I suspect that it is because LD_LIBRARY_PATH can be

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Conrad
Hate to state the obvious, but on a DEFAULT Debian install, if nothing is changed, root's default path with be dictated by /root/.profile ... Maybe the machine behaving fine still has this file, and the other has had it deleted, and then (and only then) is login/whatever providing you with a

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
Hi Adam, On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:55:32PM -0700, Adam Conrad wrote: Hate to state the obvious, but on a DEFAULT Debian install, if nothing is changed, root's default path with be dictated by /root/.profile ... Maybe the machine behaving fine still has this file, and the other has had it

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:36:09PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: why not? the most you'd have to do is put up a single web page with links to local copies of ssh clients for various platforms...and optionally replace telnetd with a script (or tcp-wrapper's twist capability) which printed a

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:25:43AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 03:28:46AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: tar -xIvvf file.tar.bz2 has been in use under linux for over a year by pretty much everybody. Even if the author never released it as stable, all linux

can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:55:32PM -0700, Adam Conrad wrote: Hate to state the obvious, but on a DEFAULT Debian install, if nothing is changed, root's default path with be dictated by /root/.profile ... Maybe the machine behaving

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:38:10AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: Hi Matt!! I don't report a bug due to misconfiguration. Let's see if what you see applies, though. [ snip rude and silly reply ] [ time passes ] On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: Hi Adam, On

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Jason Henry Parker
Eray Ozkural (exa) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:03:57PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: The display manager starts the X server, not the other way around, which means that the X server has no control over the display manager's behavior; and the authentication failure

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:14:40AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: I apologize for prolonging this thread - it's quite annoying. However, after reading this enlightened response I wonder if it's possible for a user to close the (silly) bug he or she reported after he or she solves the problem.

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:57:11AM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: Actually under /usr/doc/debian the doc-debian package provides a number of files, including bug-main-mailcontrol.txt. A message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] of this format: close $(bugnumber) thanks will close a bug. Only

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +1000, Jason Henry Parker wrote: Eray Ozkural (exa) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm. Well, I know about that. The display managers start all right. The problem occurs when I login. I'd tried xdm, wings and gdm. How come all of them failed then? Why does

Processed: Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: close 81396 Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody Bug closed, send any further explanations to Eray 'exa' Ozkural [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks, Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Darren Benham

Re: How to report bugs (was glibc thing)

2001-01-07 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Greg Stark wrote: Just writing in your conclusions is useless 90% of the time. Your conclusions may be right but the maintainer doesn't have ESP and can't necessarily deduce where they came from and what the bug is. I will try to assemble a test case as soon as I have some time. It's been a

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Sunday 07 January 2001 05:50, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, Russell == Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russell other=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 Russell label=part1 Russell table=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc Eh? I have an SCSI only machine

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 06 January 2001 23:33, Peter Makholm wrote: Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: boot=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 Don't assume devfs! A lot of us uses it, but before our standard kernel uses it our lilo package shouldn't

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 06 January 2001 23:04, Lars Wirzenius wrote: Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am working on the Debian package of lilo and am writing code for auto-generating lilo.conf files. Presumably, if there is a /etc/lilo.conf file already on the system, you will ask whether to keep

XFree4.0.2 / wdm interaction bug?

2001-01-07 Thread William Lee Irwin III
I've experienced a bug and I'm not entirely sure what to file it against. I'm also not sure if anyone else has ever seen this, and was hoping someone else might try such a setup and verify the bug exists before really reporting it. I set up wdm to run X on multiple vt's thusly in

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* Eray Ozkural (exa) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Users here are not at all interested in the psychological state of a particular developer. On the contrary, every developer should be required to deal with every bug report in an objective manner. Inappropriate dismissal or incorrect evaluation of bug

Optimisations query

2001-01-07 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hello, I was just thinking about one thread of discussion that happens quite some time ago on having optimised Debian packages, which resulted in the conclusion that it 1. not enough speed benefit 2. uses up too much bandwith However Red Hat seems to have solved the same problem with RH 7.0 -

Re: update excuses.. how to read them

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sun 07 Jan 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:05:57AM +0100, Paul Slootman wrote: jed-sl-ja is not built anymore (note that it is out of date on ALL architectures). Does this mean it won't be installed into woody until someone manually removes

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-01-06 Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 05:40:53PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: On 01-01-06 Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:58:48PM +0100, Cosimo Alfarano wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:33:57PM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote: Don't assume devfs! A

Re: XFree4.0.2 / wdm interaction bug?

2001-01-07 Thread William Lee Irwin III
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:02:52AM -0800, William Lee Irwin III wrote: I've experienced a bug and I'm not entirely sure what to file it against. I'm also not sure if anyone else has ever seen this, and was hoping someone else might try such a setup and verify the bug exists before really

Re: What is wrong with kde2.1 and unstable ?

2001-01-07 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:27:18PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: no clue...I don't use apt to upgrade. :) Your not alone tho, there is a existing bug report on this (#81365)...so any help you can give me to track I do use apt through dselect and did an upgrade un Thursday and on Friday. It

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +1000, Jason Henry Parker wrote: ``Banks *are* bastards.'' -- John Laws Err, yeah.. takes one to know one? Hamish, glad we don't have him down here. -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ITA gnucash?

2001-01-07 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:22:10PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just want to ask if somebody knows if the maintainer is still active. Gnucash have now quite a lot of bugs and there is a new I am here. Had you cared enough to look at the bug report

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:57:11AM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:14:40AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: I apologize for prolonging this thread - it's quite annoying. However, after reading this enlightened response I wonder if it's possible for a user to close the

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:53:29PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: The latest package is supposed to ask you whether you want to generate a new lilo.conf or keep the manually created one (default keep the manual one). If If you already have a /etc/lilo.conf, why ask anything at all? I like the

Re: What is wrong with kde2.1 and unstable ?

2001-01-07 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
no clue...I don't use apt to upgrade. :) Your not alone tho, there is a existing bug report on this (#81365)...so any help you can give me to track I do use apt through dselect and did an upgrade un Thursday and on Friday. It worked nicely expect that task-koffice was removed by apt.

Re: Optimisations query

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:43:38AM +, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: However Red Hat seems to have solved the same problem with RH 7.0 - despite whatever else that release is. They do this by compiling to a target CPU of i686 but keeping the target platform to i386. Not too ideal for AMD

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:40:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:34:04PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: If you call your insults to another contributor to debian deserved rant, then I'd think you are either misinterpreting your status

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-07 Thread Sam Vilain
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:33:05 -0700 (MST) Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that suits your needs, feel free to write a bugreport on apt about this. Yes, I enjoy closing such bug reports with a terse response. Hint: Read the bug page for APT to discover why! From bug report #76118:

Processed: hmmm

2001-01-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: retitle 81396 root shell fscked after admin fscked it Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody Changed Bug title. (By the way, that Bug is currently marked as done.) thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Sam Couter
Goswin Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as linux-centric as the other way is solaris-centric. Not true. There's the way GNU tar works, then there's the way every other tar on the planet works (at least with respect to the -I option). GNU tar is (used to be) the odd one out. Now you're

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. That's it. Please close the bug. That file has somehow gone and replacing it will solve the problem. And of course moving .bash_profile out of the way. Thanks again. Please don't complain why have you

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:23:20AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: Golly, there _was_ a misconfiguration. Now that you've made your disdain for Branden's sharp tongue well known, I hope you plan to apologize to Matt Zimmerman for your rudeness. I'm glad the problem has been resolved. I could

Re: XFree4.0.2 / wdm interaction bug?

2001-01-07 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi William! You wrote: Content-Description: brief message I've experienced a bug and I'm not entirely sure what to file it against. [...] What I actually saw was that after I switched vt's a couple of times, screen corruption occurred. The images from the two Xservers running on different

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-07 Thread Sam Vilain
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 19:08:38 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sami Haahtinen) wrote: Or, can rsync sync binary files? hmm.. this sounds like something worth implementing.. rsync can, but the problem is with a compressed stream if you insert or alter data early on in the stream, the data after that

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:12:59AM +1100, Sam Couter wrote: Don't run unstable if you don't like stuff changing or breaking. Unstable breaks stuff from time to time. It changes stuff more often than that. This is a bit different, Sam. The I switch works in tar in potato. Your comment would

Re: What to do about /etc/debian_version

2001-01-07 Thread Martin Keegan
Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey Hess wrote: I think /etc/mtab is on its way out. A 2.4.x kernel with devfs has a /proc/mounts that actually has a proper line for the root filesystem. Linking the two files would probably actually work on such a system without

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* Sam Couter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure this has been said before, but: Sure, but it doesn't apply here. Don't run unstable if you don't like stuff changing or breaking. tar in potato uses -I for bzip2. So far, tar -I won't be bzip2 in woody, the next stable. So anyone using just

Re: Compiling 2.0.38 kernel

2001-01-07 Thread Chris L. Mason
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:08:17PM +0100, Stefan Frank wrote: Hi Chris, incidentally i tried to do the same yesterday. I got the same error message as you, but didn't bother to try to fix it. Maybe you need an older version of make? If you manage to get this kernel working, would you

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote on Sat Jan 06, 2001 um 05:35:55PM: Or alias -I to -j, but print a warning to stderr: tar: warning: Using the -I option for bzip compression is an obsolete functionality and it will removed in future versions of tar, Then, in the woody+1 we make

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-07 Thread Goswin Brederlow
== Sam Vilain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:33:05 -0700 (MST) Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that suits your needs, feel free to write a bugreport on apt about this. Yes, I enjoy closing such bug reports with a terse response. Hint:

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Joey Hess wrote: ... Take another look at where we are now. If 6 people fix one package a day until woody is frozen, we might just manage to convert all packages that do not yet use /usr/share/doc. If that is done, we only have to wait 2 more releases of debian until the

Re: What to do about /etc/debian_version

2001-01-07 Thread Goswin Brederlow
== Martin Keegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey Hess wrote: I think /etc/mtab is on its way out. A 2.4.x kernel with devfs has a /proc/mounts that actually has a proper line for the root filesystem. Linking the two

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-07 Thread Falk Hueffner
Sam Vilain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 19:08:38 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sami Haahtinen) wrote: Or, can rsync sync binary files? hmm.. this sounds like something worth implementing.. rsync can, but the problem is with a compressed stream if you insert or alter data

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:17:20AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: On 01-01-06 Matt Zimmerman wrote: mizar:[~/src/linux/2.4.0/linux] egrep 'VERSION|LEVEL' Makefile | head -3 VERSION = 2 PATCHLEVEL = 4 SUBLEVEL = 0 mizar:[~/src/linux/2.4.0/linux] grep -B 1 ^CONFIG_DEVFS_FS

RFDisscusion: Big Packages.gz and Statistics and Comparing solution

2001-01-07 Thread zhaoway
Hi, [Sorry for the thread broken, my POP3 provider stopped.] [Please Cc: me! [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Sorry! ;-)] 1. RFDiscussion on big Packages.gz 1.1. Some statistics % grep-dctrl -P -sPackage,Priority,Installed-Size,Version,Depends,Provides,Conflicts,Filename,Size,MD5sum -r '.*'

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 09:01:40AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. That's it. Please close the bug. That file has somehow gone and replacing it will solve the problem. And of course moving .bash_profile

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-07 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 03:49:43PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: Actually the load should drop, providing the following feature add ons: [...] The load should drop from that induced by the current rsync setup (for the mirrors), but if many, many more client start using rsync (instead of

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:05:27AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:25:43AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 03:28:46AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: tar -xIvvf file.tar.bz2 has been in use under linux for over a year by pretty much everybody.

ITP: cabextract -- file extractor for Microsoft CAB files

2001-01-07 Thread sharkey
cabextract is available at http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php3. It allows Microsoft CAB files to be decompressed and unarchived. It's distributed under the GPL. Eric Sharkey

Bug reports - copies to submitter

2001-01-07 Thread Bob Hilliard
This is probably in the documentation somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it. Which messages to the bug reporting system are automatically forwarded to the submitter, and which must be explicitly copied to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-07 Thread Goswin Brederlow
== Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 03:49:43PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: Actually the load should drop, providing the following feature add ons: [...] The load should drop from that induced by the current rsync setup (for

Re: Bug reports - copies to submitter

2001-01-07 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Bob! You wrote: Which messages to the bug reporting system are automatically forwarded to the submitter, and which must be explicitly copied to [EMAIL PROTECTED] IIRC, only the [EMAIL PROTECTED] messages are sent to the submitter -- Kind regards,

Re: RFDisscusion: Big Packages.gz and Statistics and Comparing solution

2001-01-07 Thread Goswin Brederlow
== zhaoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, [Sorry for the thread broken, my POP3 provider stopped.] [Please Cc: me! [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Sorry! ;-)] 1. RFDiscussion on big Packages.gz 1.1. Some statistics % grep-dctrl -P

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Goswin Brederlow
== Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:05:27AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:25:43AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 03:28:46AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: tar -xIvvf file.tar.bz2 has

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:12:59AM +1100, Sam Couter wrote: Goswin Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as linux-centric as the other way is solaris-centric. Not true. There's the way GNU tar works, then there's the way every other tar on the planet works (at least with respect to the -I

O: gstep-core -- GNUstep core libraries

2001-01-07 Thread Matthias Klose
Package: wnpp The GNUstep libraires (together with gstep-extensions and gstep-guile). See http://www.gnustep.org/ for more information.

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Sam == Sam Couter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sam Not true. There's the way GNU tar works, then there's the way every other Sam tar on the planet works (at least with respect to the -I option). GNU tar is Sam (used to be) the odd one out. Now you're saying that not behaving like the Sam odd

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:53:29PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: The latest package is supposed to ask you whether you want to generate a new lilo.conf or keep the manually created one (default keep the manual one). If Hamish

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Chris Gray
Michael Stone writes: (snip flamage) ms I don't know whether any amount of discussion will convince ms the upstream tar maintainers to undo this, but I certainly ms hope that the debian version at least prevents serious silent ms breakage by either reverting the change to -I and

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread calvin
Hello, I think the -I == -j change is not that bad. The only package I found using -I was devscripts' /usr/bin/uupdate. I submitted this patch: --- uupdate.origSun Jan 7 18:40:59 2001 +++ uupdate Sun Jan 7 18:43:13 2001 @@ -294,7 +294,7 @@ X=${ARCHIVE##*/} case $X in

Re: RFDisscusion: Big Packages.gz and Statistics and Comparing solution

2001-01-07 Thread zhaoway
[A quick reply. And thanks for discuss with me! And no need to Cc: me anymore, I updated my DB info.] On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:51:26PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: The problem is that people want to browse descriptions to find a package fairly often or just run apt-cache show package to see

Configure error for lm-sensors (2.5.4-2)

2001-01-07 Thread Svante Signell
Setting up lm-sensors (2.5.4-2) ... /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_ptym%d=2: command not found /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_ptys%d=3: command not found /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_tts%d=4: command not found /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_cua%d=5: command not found /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_pts%d=136: command not found

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:36:24AM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: You behaviour wrt bugs is more than lacking. You report something, without making a report that has enough relevant info to deal with it (read [EMAIL PROTECTED] again and understand it). When asked about specific info, you

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:57:08PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Debian does not try to regulate the behaviour of its maintainers, except where the quality of the distribution itself is involved. What are your contributions to Debian Eray? Non-regulation is a false claim. Maintainers are

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sun 07 Jan 2001, Eray Ozkural wrote: About having telnet enabled: everybody on the campus knows how to use telnet but would be very surprised I didn't let them connect easily from windows clients. For me, using telnet is of course a bit insecure but when I'm not able to use an ssh

[way OT] private emails

2001-01-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 06:26:24PM -0600, Bud Rogers wrote: It is spectacularly bad form to quote private email in a public forum, but it is not illegal. And it is spectacularly naive to count on the privacy of anything you tell another human being in any medium, electronic or otherwise,

Re: Bug reports - copies to submitter

2001-01-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:25:37AM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: This is probably in the documentation somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it. Which messages to the bug reporting system are automatically forwarded to the submitter, and which must be explicitly copied to [EMAIL

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:42:57PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:57:11AM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:14:40AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: I apologize for prolonging this thread - it's quite annoying. However, after reading this

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Samuel Hocevar
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote: Yes, but also anyone, including the submitter, spammers, joe public etc can email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to close a bug as well. The BTS doesn't care. So does this mean the submitter can close their own bug or not? I'm not sure what you mean by

Re: Configure error for lm-sensors (2.5.4-2)

2001-01-07 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* Svante Signell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, [Some errors] if it is a bug, use reportbug or bug to submit it to the bug-tracking system. If you can find out the cause, provide a patch. Thanks. Ciao, Martin

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:09:12PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: So does this mean the submitter can close their own bug or not? I'm not sure what you mean by the BTS doesn't care Anyone can close a bug - the BTS doesn't actually check where the close command comes from. The unenforced

Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

2001-01-07 Thread Otto Wyss
It's commonly agreed that compression does prevent rsync from profit of older versions of packages when synchronizing Debian mirrors. All the discussion about fixing rsync to solve this, even trough a deb-plugin is IMHO not the right way. Rsync's task is to synchronize files without knowing what's

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:34:31PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 12:01:42PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: I don't know why you think your personal bug reports are so important that they demand the attention of not only the package maintainer, but *also* everyone

Re: dpkg-statoverride vs. suidmanager

2001-01-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joey Hess wrote: However, dpkg 1.8 implements dpkg-statoverride --import. We decided not to go that route, so why? Because I got convinced that suidmanager is not capable to figure out if something is an overide or a default. If we do decide to go that route and use the

Re: Configure error for lm-sensors (2.5.4-2)

2001-01-07 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 07:46:09PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: Setting up lm-sensors (2.5.4-2) ... /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_ptym%d=2: command not found /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_ptys%d=3: command not found /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_tts%d=4: command not found /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_cua%d=5: command not found

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

2001-01-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Otto Wyss wrote: So why not solve the compression problem at the root? Why not try to change the compression in a way so it does produce a compressed result with the same (or similar) difference rate as the source? gzip --rsyncable, aloready implemented, ask Rusty Russell.

(open)ssh-2.3.0p1 when??

2001-01-07 Thread Svante Signell
Is openssh ever going to be upgraded? Latest unstable version is 2.2.0p1-1.1 from September? while the latest OpenBSD release is now 2.3.0p1! Maybe the package also should change name from ssh to openssh.

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Branden Robinson wrote: Ah, so you have a time machine which you used to tell your earlier self that there was going to be trouble from me over bug 81397? No comments. :) You CC'ed your *initial report* to debian-devel and debian-x, before I had anything at all to say on the subject.

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Eggert
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:07:14 -0500 From: Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] I certainly hope that the debian version at least prevents serious silent breakage by either reverting the change to -I and printing a message that the option is deprecated or removing the -I flag entirely. Why

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
- -j, --bzip2filter the archive through bzip2\n\ + -I, -j --bzip2 filter the archive through bzip2\n\ If it's a deprecated option, don't document it in the online help. A note in a COMPATIBILITY section in the manpage is more appropriate.

Re: IPv6 support in Debian

2001-01-07 Thread Mark Baker
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:00:07PM +1100, Dancer Vesperman wrote: Certainly we have things like exim, lftp, ssh that work 'out of the box' with v6...and apps that work with v6 work (equally) flawlessly in v4-only environments. That's not necessarily the case. There were lots of problems

Re: Possible ITP: freebirth

2001-01-07 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 08:41:50AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:04:55AM -0200, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: Yes, I've been in a packaging mood lately :) I'd like to have Tk707 packaged. Tk707 is a software clone of the Roland TR-707 rhythm composer, a drum

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Martin Bialasinski
[ No need to Cc: me, I do read debian-devel ] * Eray Ozkural (exa) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I will cc to debian-devel only when there is an affirmed conflict with the developer about the bug report, OK? Your behaviour on this bugreport is a deja-vu of your behaviour on #80544. I

Re: (open)ssh-2.3.0p1 when??

2001-01-07 Thread Damian M Gryski
On Sun, 07 Jan 2001, Svante Signell wrote: Is openssh ever going to be upgraded? Latest unstable version is 2.2.0p1-1.1 from September? while the latest OpenBSD release is now 2.3.0p1! Maybe the package also should change name from ssh to openssh. openssh 2.3.0p1 was installed into unstable

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hi Martin, please cc to me Martin Bialasinski wrote: I have developed a great liking for bug reports somehow. Then you just need to develope some skill for a) analysing bugs and writing useful reports and b) not going crazy when developers ask further question if they don't have a

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:09:12PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: So does this mean the submitter can close their own bug or not? I'm not sure what you mean by the BTS doesn't care Yes, the BTS will allow the submitter to close their own bug that way. So can anyone else. (AFAIK.) Hamish --

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 07:21:29PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the -I == -j change is not that bad. The only package I found using -I was devscripts' /usr/bin/uupdate. The problem is not that it breaks our scripts -- it's different for every end user of tar as well! So if I'm used

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

2001-01-07 Thread Sam Couter
Otto Wyss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So why not solve the compression problem at the root? Why not try to change the compression in a way so it does produce a compressed result with the same (or similar) difference rate as the source? Are you going to hack at *every* different kind of file

Re: (open)ssh-2.3.0p1 when??

2001-01-07 Thread Brian Frederick Kimball
Damian M Gryski wrote: On Sun, 07 Jan 2001, Svante Signell wrote: Is openssh ever going to be upgraded? Latest unstable version is 2.2.0p1-1.1 from September? while the latest OpenBSD release is now 2.3.0p1! Maybe the package also should change name from ssh to openssh. openssh

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-07 Thread Sam Couter
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you please name the other unices that behave identically to solaris tar wrt the -I option? And which other unices even have the -I option in tar? My point is that the -I option *doesn't* mean uncompress this file using bzip2 for

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-07 Thread Jason Henry Parker
Eray Ozkural (exa) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:36:24AM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: You behaviour wrt bugs is more than lacking. You report something, without making a report that has enough relevant info to deal with it (read [EMAIL PROTECTED] again and

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Colin Watson
Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun 07 Jan 2001, Eray Ozkural wrote: About having telnet enabled: everybody on the campus knows how to use telnet but would be very surprised I didn't let them connect easily from windows clients. For me, using telnet is of course a bit insecure but

Re: RFDisscusion: Big Packages.gz and Statistics and Comparing solution

2001-01-07 Thread Goswin Brederlow
== zhaoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [A quick reply. And thanks for discuss with me! And no need to Cc: me anymore, I updated my DB info.] On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:51:26PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: The problem is that people want to browse descriptions to

Re: (open)ssh-2.3.0p1 when??

2001-01-07 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-01-07 Brian Frederick Kimball wrote: Damian M Gryski wrote: On Sun, 07 Jan 2001, Svante Signell wrote: Is openssh ever going to be upgraded? Latest unstable version is 2.2.0p1-1.1 from September? while the latest OpenBSD release is now 2.3.0p1! Maybe the package also should

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sun 07 Jan 2001, Colin Watson wrote: Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Search google for putty, if you need an ssh client for windows. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ (hmm, I appear to have that memorized - I end up grabbing it any time I'm at a public

apt maintainers dead?

2001-01-07 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Hi, I tried to contact the apt maintainers about rsync support for apt-get (a proof of concept was included) but haven't got an answere back yet. Is the whole team on vacation? Who is actually on that list? From the number of bugs open against apt-get I would think they are all dead. Please

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