Re: New update_excuses output

2001-09-16 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 01:05:31AM +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 01:53:03PM +0200, Paul Slootman uttered:
  Would it be possible to also offer a compressed version of these files
  (update_excuses.html, update_output.txt, etc)? Most browsers can handle
  uncompressing these on the fly and it makes accessing these lists MUCH
  faster. As a porter I often use update_excuses for tracking down
  packages that are out of date (on alpha) for longer than normal (usually
  indicating a problem that can't be handled by the build daemon), and
  hence look at that list quite regularly.
  
 That may also involve installing mod_gzip on ftp-master.

Downloading gzipped files that automatically ungzip on the client doesn't
require any module. If someone supplies a update-excuses.gz it will work
without any changes to apache.

The module would be required if you want to autonegotiate the compression on
the file.
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Re: New update_excuses output

2001-09-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 01:53:03PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote:
 On Sat 15 Sep 2001, Anthony Towns wrote:
  As of the next dinstall/testing run (a few hours away yet) there'll be a
  new set of lines in the update_excuses output [0] (NB: it's now over a MB so
  it's quite long and tedious). They look like:
 Would it be possible to also offer a compressed version of these files
 (update_excuses.html, update_output.txt, etc)? 

Should be there as of now, without the etc.

Cheers,
aj

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Debian testing - uninstallable packages

2001-09-16 Thread Andrew M. Bishop
[ I sent this to debian-testing a month ago, but the mailing list   ]
[ doesn't exist anymore - it is not archived at http://list.debian.org/ ]
[ If there is a more appropriate list for this discussion let me know.  ]

The debian FAQ (/usr/share/debian/FAQ) says the following:

: Packages are installed into the `testing' directory after they have undergone
: some degree of testing in unstable.  They must be in sync on all architectures
: where they have been built and mustn't have dependencies that make them
: uninstallable; they also have to have fewer release-critical bugs than the
: versions currently in testing.  This way, we hope that `testing' is always
: close to being a release candidate.

I have seen a problem with two packages that I wanted to install from
testing not being installable.  These were gnumeric and gnucash, so I
raised bug reports about them - currently unanswered.

I realise that there may be other packages that are also
uninstallable, so I wrote a script that parses /var/lib/dpkg/available
and lists those packages that have unmet dependencies, recommendations
or suggestions for packages that are not available.  The script only
checks the package names, not the version numbers, so they may be more
problems.

The list below was compiled from the current status of debian testing
as found in the following sources.list today.

 sources.list 
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody main
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody contrib
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody non-free
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody non-US/main
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody non-US/contrib
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody non-US/non-free
 sources.list 


Package  RelationDependency (not available)
---  --

glcpudepends on  libcommonc++1

gnucash  depends on  libguile9
gnucash  depends on  guile1.4
gnucash  depends on  guile1.4-slib
gnucash  depends on  libgwrapguile0

gnumeric depends on  libgal4

mozilla  depends on  mozilla-browser
mozilla  depends on  mozilla-mailnews

roxen-ssldepends on  pike-crypto

sphinx2-bin  depends on  sphinx2-hmm-6k


Package  RelationRecommendation (not available)
---  --

alamin-serverrecommends  gnokii

bibletimerecommends  sword-dict
bibletimerecommends  sword-comm

cdrecord recommends  mkisofs

cjk-latexrecommends  freetype1-tools

guile1.4-doc recommends  guile1.4

ibcs-source-2.0  recommends  kernel-source-2.0.36 | 
kernel-source-2.0.38

kernel-patch-2.4.0-ia64  recommends  kernel-source-2.4.0

kernel-patch-2.4.1-ia64  recommends  kernel-source-2.4.1

kernel-patch-2.4.3-arm   recommends  kernel-source-2.4.3

kernel-patch-2.4.4-ia64  recommends  kernel-source-2.4.4

kernel-patch-2.4.5-ia64  recommends  kernel-source-2.4.5

kernel-patch-2.4.5-s390  recommends  kernel-source-2.4.5

mozilla  recommends  mozilla-psm

pipsecd  recommends  userlink

quickppp recommends  pppd

tpctlrecommends  tpctl-modules

unp  recommends  unace

webmin-ssl   recommends  webmin-core

zope-pagetemplates   recommends  zope-parsedxml


Package  RelationSuggestion (not available)
---  --

alsa-basesuggestsalsadriver

alsa-utils   suggestsalsadriver

alsa-utils-0.4   suggestsalsadriver

alsa-utils-0.5   suggestsalsadriver

ant  suggestsjmf

aolserversuggestsaolserver-postgres
aolserversuggestsopenacs

atoolsuggestsbzip

cbedic   suggestskbedic

cdrtoaster   suggestsmkisofs

cpuburn  suggestskernel-patch-badram

crafty   suggestscraftywatcher

cupsys-clientsuggestskdelibs3-cups

cvsbook  suggestscvs-doc

cxterm-gbsuggestsintlfonts-chinese

cxterm-jis   suggestsintlfonts-japanese

dhelp   

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-16 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 11:33:54PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
 Would you knock it off with the flamebait? 

That wasn't flamebait. You may have disagreed with it, it may have
be inaccurate or logically wrong, but it wasn't flamebait.

 I am not suggesting that anyone
 be forced to read any number of README.Debian files, just that it will,
 quite naturally, become part of the package installation process with the
 help of package management UIs.

And I disagree with your suggestion. Can you offer evidence?
 
 Not all README.Debians are alike.  Many of them contain information of the
 form here is how Debian's foobar differs from upstream foobar, which you
 may be familiar with.  As such, it is not in case of emergency
 instructions, but a README in the traditional sense, to be read _before_
 using the software.

I glanced through the README.Debians on my disk. Out of about 15, 5 or 6
would be helpful to read before using the package; 7 or 8 had some
information that might be interesting to someone knowledgable about the
software; and a couple were worthless (empty or basically repeated the
description.) None of them were essential. 

If I'm in a documentation reading mood, I may as well pick up the README
file and other stuff in the /usr/share/doc/foo directory. I don't see
the reason to single out the README.Debian file.

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Re: Debian testing - uninstallable packages

2001-09-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:15:45PM +0100, Andrew M. Bishop wrote:
 [ I sent this to debian-testing a month ago, but the mailing list   ]
 [ doesn't exist anymore - it is not archived at http://list.debian.org/ ]

Actually, the list still exists, and is available at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/. Not sure why it doesn't seem to be
listed amongst all the other mailing lists.

 I have seen a problem with two packages that I wanted to install from
 testing not being installable.  These were gnumeric and gnucash, so I
 raised bug reports about them - currently unanswered.

Right. There're a few packages that aren't installable in woody. There're
also a number that're out of sync, or that have RC bugs, or whatever. It's
not perfect, and it shouldn't really be expected to be.

FWIW, there're accurate lists of uninstallable packages (which does take into
account versions and conflicts, but ignores recommends and suggests) at
http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: Orphaning all packages

2001-09-16 Thread Martin Albert
On Saturday 15 September 2001 10:08, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
 I'm afraid I don't really want to be co-maintainer either. Sorry.

I was afraid you'd say that.
If i see it orphaned for too long, i'll once ITA publib-dev.

Have fun! Martin




Re: [RFC] Developer documentation packages.

2001-09-16 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit

 
 doc-gen ebook-foo pdf
 

That is a very interesting idea.
I'd go for one... something like this ?
(NB. not tested throughly, nor complete yet.)





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Re: Orphaning all packages -- adopting syslog-summary

2001-09-16 Thread Tommi Virtanen
Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Package: syslog-summary
 Description: Summarize the contents of a syslog log file.
  This program summarizes the contents of a log file written by syslog,
  by displaying each unique (except for the time) line once, and also
  the number of times such a line occurs in the input. The lines are
  displayed in the order they occur in the input.

I use syslog-summary extensively, I can take it.

The question is -- can I do upstreamish things to it, too?

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neat mutt bug.

2001-09-16 Thread Adam McKenna
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Interesting highlighting bug in mutt -- could confuse an unsuspecting person
into thinking Branden actually signed this.

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Re: New update_excuses output

2001-09-16 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sat 15 Sep 2001, Simon Richter wrote:

  Would it be possible to also offer a compressed version of these files
  (update_excuses.html, update_output.txt, etc)? Most browsers can handle
  uncompressing these on the fly and it makes accessing these lists MUCH
  faster. As a porter I often use update_excuses for tracking down
  packages that are out of date (on alpha) for longer than normal (usually
  indicating a problem that can't be handled by the build daemon), and
  hence look at that list quite regularly.
 
 It may also be an idea to generate per-arch excuses files.

I also look at the info about other arches sometimes; e.g. if a package
is out of date for alpha, but also for most other arches, I figure it's
the responsibility of the package's maintainer to get it in working
order, as there's abviously something wrong in general with it. If it's
only alpha (or maybe one other arch), then it's probable that it's an
alpha-specific thing that I may be solve quickly (having seen the same
problem in other packages, perhaps...)

So I find the current output OK, and the compressed version works nicely
now; thanks, AJ, for the quick fix :-)


Paul Slootman




Re: neat mutt bug.

2001-09-16 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Adam McKenna (on Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:17:37AM -0700):
 Interesting highlighting bug in mutt -- could confuse an unsuspecting person
 into thinking Branden actually signed this.

oooh. this is ugly. reported it to bugtraq? if not bugtraq, then at
least michael elkins should know...

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Re: neat mutt bug.

2001-09-16 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 12:34:22PM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
 also sprach Adam McKenna (on Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:17:37AM -0700):
  Interesting highlighting bug in mutt -- could confuse an unsuspecting person
  into thinking Branden actually signed this.
 
 oooh. this is ugly. reported it to bugtraq? if not bugtraq, then at
 least michael elkins should know...

I just sent a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED], hopefully that list accepts
submissions from non-members.  I personally don't think it's bugtraq worthy,
since careful checking will reveal a bad date, but still, it's important
because the casual reader will most likely believe the data was signed.

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Re: [RFC] Developer documentation packages.

2001-09-16 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit

 
   So we'd have some sort of book-get package, like the controversial
 porn-get (which shares the characteristics you've described)?

Heh, so we could indeed have 

book-get install packagename

and have preferences for documentation format.
Also, some book-cache search command.

porn-get could even be reused/extended to do this job.
The last part (of translating documentation formats)
is not implemented yet, but should be trivial,
really.

regards,
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Re: neat mutt bug.

2001-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Adam McKenna wrote:
 Interesting highlighting bug in mutt -- could confuse an unsuspecting person
 into thinking Branden actually signed this.

That's documented, nothing special about it.

Wichert.

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Re: Problem with resolv.conf and search list

2001-09-16 Thread Bruno BEAUFILS
Bernd Eckenfels writes:
- host is not using the system resolver but contacting name servers directly.
- You may want to use ping to check it, instead.

That's what exactly what I tried before. Does not work either :-(

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Re: Problem with resolv.conf and search list

2001-09-16 Thread Bruno BEAUFILS
Philippe Troin writes:
- The parser for resolv.conf is very stupid.
- Try:
- 
-search lifl.fr univ-lille1.fr
-search iut-info.univ-lille1.fr
-nameserver 134.206.10.18
-nameserver 134.206.1.4
-nameserver 134.206.1.15

It does not work either because with this configuration only the last domain
is searched for (aka iut-info.univ-lille1.fr) and am unable to find host in
domain univ-lille1.fr.

The man page of resolv.conf says there may be only on search line containing
only 6 domains and which must not be longer than 256 characters. 

My configuration respect exactly that, but it does not work.

I would like to have a look at the code just in order to understand how is the
job done ? Did someone know in where the code of the resolver is situated :
glibc (maybe get_host_by_name) ?

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Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:14:52PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
  People shouldn't have to sift through a bunch of entries of boring and
  meaningless text (to them, at least :) to get such information...
 
 The same being true of README.Debian.

Everything in README.Debian should be admin-oriented information, IMHO, in
which case it wouldn't be boring and meaningless. Perhaps they had already
read it, though, but even so, it's easier to skim through a few paragraphs
one has already read than through lots of terse changelog entries.

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Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 06:51:21PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
   There is already a standard, reliable way of communicating package
   changes to the admin. Amazingly enough, it's called a changelog. I
   usually find them under /usr/share/doc/packagename/...
  
  We can't really expect the admins to parse through hundreds of changelogs;
 
 But if it becomes common place to list changes in debconf notes, then
 the admins will be overwhelmed by them as well, if every upgrade leads
 to 50 new e-mails.

I agree that the maintainers would need to pay more attention to the note
priorities and locations.

 Consider what we're talking about: A package is moving files from one
 directory to another, and replacing the original directory with a
 symlink to the new one (assuming that's what Elie decides to do). Why
 does every admin need to be notified?

Ah, in this case it is indeed not necessary to notify the admin.

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Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 07:46:52PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
 In the future, though, package management frontends should make it easy to
 view README.Debian at installation time.

I agree, a button called Debian README in an X frontend would really be
convenient.

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rdate can't connect socket

2001-09-16 Thread Bob Hilliard
 I posted the following to -user three days ago with no response.
Can someone here help?

 I have the following command in a cron.daily script:
  rdate time.mist.god

 This has worked consistently for a long time, but for the past
week or two it returns:
 rdate: Could not connect socket: Connection refused

 This message returns almost instantly - too quickly, I believe,
to be a connection refused at the remote server.

 Can this be a socket on my machine that refuses a connection?

 I have rdate 1.3-3.

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Re: rdate can't connect socket

2001-09-16 Thread Samuel Tardieu
On 16/09, Bob Hilliard wrote:

|  This has worked consistently for a long time, but for the past
| week or two it returns:
|  rdate: Could not connect socket: Connection refused
| 
|  This message returns almost instantly - too quickly, I believe,
| to be a connection refused at the remote server.
| 
|  Can this be a socket on my machine that refuses a connection?

Did you by chance update your firewall? Could it be rejecting this outgoing
connection?




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Re: Problem with resolv.conf and search list

2001-09-16 Thread Francois Cerbelle
Le Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 02:26:49AM +0200, Bruno BEAUFILS ecrit :
 {watney-root-/etc}# host sole
 sole.lifl.fr does not exist (Authoritative answer)
 {watney-root-/etc}# host sole.iut-info.univ-lille1.fr
 sole.iut-info.univ-lille1.frA   134.206.40.114
Did you simply try dig, instead of host ?

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Bug#112463: ITP: siemens-dvb-firmware -- Firmware files from convergence integrated media GmbH

2001-09-16 Thread Eduard Bloch
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-16
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: siemens-dvb-firmware
  Version : 0.9.3
  Upstream Author :  Ralph  Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Marcus 
 Metzler for convergence integrated media GmbH
* URL : http://linuxtv.org/dvb/
* License : non-free -- binary only, apparently free distributable
Requires further investigation
  Description : Firmware for Fujitsu/Siemens based DVB cards

This package contains some non-free firmware files used by Digital satelite
receiver cards based on the Fujitsu Siemens DVB PCI reference card. The
firmware is needed for the siemens-dvb-drivers package.

-- System Information
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Architecture: i386
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Bug#112464: ITP: siemens-dvb-drivers-src -- drivers for Siemens based DVB cards

2001-09-16 Thread Eduard Bloch
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-16
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: siemens-dvb-drivers-src
  Version : 0.9.3
  Upstream Author : Ralph  Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://linuxtv.org/dvb/
* License : GPL
  Description : drivers for Siemens based DVB cards

This is another early release of a Linux driver for the
Siemens/Fujitsu DVB PCI card. As such there are many features still
missing and not everything might work as intended. But we are at a
point where we think that the driver is useful to some people and an
exchange with a larger user base would be benefitial.
Please note that only the Siemens/Fujitsu DVB card is supported by us.
Other, also identical, cards by other manufacturers may work but are
NOT supported.
Siemens/Fujitsu was the only manufacturer willing to provide
documentation and support for a Linux driver.

-- System Information
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Architecture: i386
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Re: gettext override disparity

2001-09-16 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Debian Installer wrote:

 There are disparities between your recently installed upload and the
 override file for the following file(s):

 gettext-base_0.10.40-1_i386.deb: priority is overridden from standard to 
 important.

 Either the package or the override file is incorrect.  If you think
 the override is correct and the package wrong please fix the package
 so that this disparity is fixed in the next upload.  If you feel the
 override is incorrect then please reply to this mail and explain why.

If you think the package is correct and the override wrong please fix
the override so that this disparity is fixed. If you feel the package
is incorrect then please reply to this mail and explain why.

gettext-base has been standard for two years now. If you feel standard
is incorrect it should be *you* ftp admins who have to explain why,
*before* changing the override file, not me.




Bug#112467: general: rxvt 1:2.6.3-12

2001-09-16 Thread briand
Package: general
Version: 20010916
Severity: important

OK  I downloaded the testing source code distribution and compiled
it on my system.

I simply did :

./configure
make
make install


Now rxvt works perfectly well.  No more hanging or locking up the system.

Is it possible that the current rxvt binaries are out of sync with
one ore more libraries ?

Brian

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Re: splitting /var/lib/dpkg/status and handling desc translation

2001-09-16 Thread Michael Bramer
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 09:55:14AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  1.) notification mails
 This is already fixed.
 
 Verybody can stop the server to send this mails. And I send a
 
 No it's not.  You have to send an email for every package that you maintain.
 This is simply unacceptable.  If I don't stop receiving these mails soon, I
 will have to impose a site-wide ban on mail from that location.

Yes, I know this problem. 

I will improve this and I have add all your packages on the
nonotification list. 

Thanks

Gruss
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Re: franc,ais locale (was Re: A language by any other name)

2001-09-16 Thread Josh Huber
Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Mime-Version: 1.0
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  Content-Disposition: inline
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

 in Cyrille's headers, which look fine.

...same here... I wonder if Gnus is doing some auto-detect action?

I wouldn't think it would add a Content-Type header though :P

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Re: neat mutt bug.

2001-09-16 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 02:33:29PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 That's documented

Where?




Re: neat mutt bug.

2001-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Aaron Lehmann wrote:
 Where?

Euh, the manual I guess? I know I read it somewhere.

Wichert.

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Bug#112478: ITP: thoteditor -- customizable editor for structured documents

2001-09-16 Thread Yann Dirson
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-16
Severity: wishlist

  Package name: thoteditor
  Version : 2.1e
  Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://opera.inrialpes.fr/thot/
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/X11/xapps/editors/
  License : BSD-like
  Description : customizable editor for structured documents

Thot is based on thotlib, which has been recently extented at W3C, and
is used by their Amaya browser/editor.  Unfortunately the Thot editor
has not been much worked on lately and some work will be required on
it.

Especially, I believe Thot has the potential to be used as
quasi-wysiwig editor for DocBook and other types of SGML documents.

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Fwd: Re: uptime

2001-09-16 Thread Martin F Krafft
woops. that went to -user... sorry...

- Forwarded message from Martin F Krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

also sprach Robert Waldner (on Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:01:26AM +0200):
 Not to give NT any honour, but that´s probably FW-1. It runs reasonably
  (for commercial-firewall-software - values of) stable on AIX, Solaris and
  Debian, but the NT-port is...utter crap.

well, that's probably true. but how can you port potentially good
software (i can't quite classify fw-1 as good, but it is a good start)
to a visual patch to a useless extension to a minor patch release for
32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written
by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.

ever done MFC programming? or windoze API for that sake? h!

 The Policy Editor, OTOH, is quite nice.

sure, but there are better. i forgot the name of the one i have in
mind, i'll post it tomorrow from the office.

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OT: Re: Fwd: Re: uptime

2001-09-16 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 12:09:52AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
 
  The Policy Editor, OTOH, is quite nice.
 
 sure, but there are better. i forgot the name of the one i have in
 mind, i'll post it tomorrow from the office.

Please don't.  It's already off-topic.
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Re: OT: Re: Fwd: Re: uptime

2001-09-16 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Jeremy Zawodny (on Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:29:15PM -0700):
   The Policy Editor, OTOH, is quite nice.
  
  sure, but there are better. i forgot the name of the one i have in
  mind, i'll post it tomorrow from the office.
 
 Please don't.  It's already off-topic.

well, the one i had in mind is a very nice GUI to iptables. better
than the policy editor of fw-1.

alright's interested parties, please contact me privately. i should
have the info by tomorrow...

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Re: HW Probe

2001-09-16 Thread Scott Dier
* Mike Markley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010913 14:47]:
 ignore, or are ignorant  the suggestion in the developers-reference that

Yeah, and if you bigots get any more annoying, you should try and get it
policy too./sarcasm

Why cant some of you come up with a procmail setup that can at least
flag and/or delete that tripe at which you so hate.

Or just killfile pepople you cant stand.

Just stop the jabbering and whining about it in every comms channel you
people see fit.

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Bug#112486: ITP: dancer-services -- IRC services implementation for dancer-ircd

2001-09-16 Thread Andrew Suffield
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-16
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: dancer-services
* License : GPL
  Description : IRC services implementation for dancer-ircd

dancer-services is an implementation of IRC services (nickserv,
chanserv, etc.), largely based on hybserv but patched to use the
dancer inter-server protocol (and thusly to work with dancer-ircd).

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Re: Preview of new Ghostscript packages - please test

2001-09-16 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 02:43:41AM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
 On my todo list for tomorrow:
 
 - Enabling the Omni driver
 - gimp-print support (stp)
 - Adding the wrappers to gs-common (ps2pdf etc.)

Of course I did not finish this task in the planned time frame. Anyway, 
at least there is now a gs package with the omni and stp drivers.
Everybody with a printer and running unstable please check it
out.

Location: http://people.debian.org/~torsten/gs/

Thanks

Torsten


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Bug#112491: general: sawfish requires a package for SHAPE extension, but does not have a dependency.

2001-09-16 Thread John Hurst
Package: general
Version: -u 20010917:092115
Severity: important

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/ajh 501 $ sawfish
sawfish: your X server doesn't suppot the SHAPE extension; aborting

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Re: sox sucks !

2001-09-16 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote:

On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 02:37:55PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
 Em Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:24:01 +0200
 Eric Van Buggenhaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  Thanks to both of you  (Dag Belgïe :)
 
  Fact is I didn't know about this option, it's documentation is totally 
  hidden.
  Bug filed.
 hmmm I learned this option with a simple mpg123 --help... is it really
 hidden? btw, use mpg321 instead of mpg123 as mpg123 is non-free ;)


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ mpg321 --help 21 | grep wav
 --wav N or -w N  Use wave file N for output

 []s!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ mpg123 --help 21 |grep wav
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$


   -w filename write Output as WAV file

case sensitive...

 :[ !


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ mpg123 --longhelp 21 |grep wav
-w f --wav f  Writes samples as WAV file in f (- is stdout)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$

Admit you have to know it ...



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Processed: Re: Bug#112491: general: sawfish requires a package for SHAPE extension, but does not have a dependency.

2001-09-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 reassign 112491 sawfish
Bug#112491: general: sawfish requires a package for SHAPE extension, but does 
not have a dependency.
Bug reassigned from package `general' to `sawfish'.

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