Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 19:28, Joseph Carter wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 02:04:12PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: The GNU FDL violates the DFSG ? In case this is true, nearly all KDE packages have to be moved to non-free as they use the GNU FDL for the documentation. For example :

Re: Rsyncable GZIP (was Re: Package metadata server)

2002-04-07 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 13:16, Otto Wyss wrote: A large mirror in Australia does provide an rsync server to access debian packages. When redhat 7.0 came out so many people tried to rsync it at the same time, the machine promptly fell over. What amazes me is that nobody is able or willing

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 20:28, Joseph Carter wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 02:04:12PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: The GNU FDL violates the DFSG ? In case this is true, nearly all KDE packages have to be moved to non-free as they use the GNU FDL for the documentation. For example :

Re: Rsyncable GZIP (was Re: Package metadata server)

2002-04-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:11:27PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 13:16, Otto Wyss wrote: A large mirror in Australia does provide an rsync server to access debian packages. When redhat 7.0 came out so many people tried to rsync it at the same time, the machine promptly

Re: Rsyncable GZIP (was Re: Package metadata server)

2002-04-07 Thread Adam Heath
On 7 Apr 2002, Robert Tiberius Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 11:16, Otto Wyss wrote: What amazes me is that nobody is able or willing to provide any figures. So I guess no provider of an rsync server is interested in this subject and therefore it can't be a big problem. Here are

Re: Rsyncable GZIP (was Re: Package metadata server)

2002-04-07 Thread Adam Heath
On 7 Apr 2002, Robert Tiberius Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 11:16, Otto Wyss wrote: What amazes me is that nobody is able or willing to provide any figures. So I guess no provider of an rsync server is interested in this subject and therefore it can't be a big problem. Btw, thanks

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-07 Thread mdanish
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 08:39:12PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 20:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatcha mean becoming? Lispers have been blurring the line between data and code for the last half-century. Speaking as a budding LISPer (working my way through On Lisp

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:26:48PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: So the FDL is a free license because it's inconvenient for it to be not? No, they're saying that a vast majority of programs which are widely considered free by our community are using this license. Thus, the onus is on you to

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 22:08, David Starner wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:26:48PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: So the FDL is a free license because it's inconvenient for it to be not? No, they're saying that a vast majority of programs which are widely considered free by our community

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 08:50:43PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: The GNU FDL violates the DFSG ? In case this is true, nearly all KDE packages have to be moved to non-free as they use the GNU FDL for the documentation. For example : open KHelpcenter and click on Introduction to

Re: perl getpwnam returns x

2002-04-07 Thread Stephen Zander
Martin == Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin getpwnam.passwd = x as it is written in /etc/passwd. Martin getspwnam.passwd = encrypted password. Perl doesn't supoprt getspnam(). It used to do a getspnam under the covers in the getpwnam call in 5.00404 (I wrote the original

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:26:48PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: We should also move binutils and gcc to non-free because the manpages are under the GNU FDL. So the FDL is a free license because it's inconvenient for it to be not? No, they're saying that a vast majority of programs

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:20:28PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: Given that gcc, binutils, and KDE are in main, it would seem that the status quo and the DFSG are in conflict, or the status quo and someone's interpretation of the DFSG are in conflict at least. Also consider that pulling gcc

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 22:40, Joseph Carter wrote: This should have been dealt with sooner. But the past three times the FDL has been discussed on this list, no concensus was reached. The only thing we can be certain of is that there are enough problems with it to prevent any consensus.

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Construccion de arbol para apt

2002-04-07 Thread Jesus M.
Hola, Una fácil: ¿Qué usáis para construir un árbol de directorios como le gusta a apt a partir de unos paquetes (fuente y binario)? Los paquetes son los que mantengo, y me gustaría preparar una versión beta, aptable, de varios de ellos. Por ahora, estas cosas las estoy haciendo a manubrio

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