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Re: pbuilder status update

2005-07-15 Thread Henning Glawe
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 11:54:15AM +1000, Brian May wrote: Ideally there needs to be either * a login environment where changes are saved AND/OR there is one: use pbuilder login --save-after-login (have been confronted with the same problem yesterday...) -- c u henning -- To

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.07.14.1416 +0300]: libfoobar-2.1-0 will have libfoobar-2.1-0-dev. Please distinguish between API and ABI! -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud

Work-needing packages report for Jul 15, 2005

2005-07-15 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 215 (new: 2) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 112 (new: 11) Total number of packages

Bug#318388: ITP: fortranposix -- library of POSIX functions for Fortran 90/95 programmers

2005-07-15 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kamaraju Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: fortranposix Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Madhusudan Singh madhusudansingh at users.sourceforge.net * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/fortranposix * License

Re: interacting with the press

2005-07-15 Thread Nigel Jones
On 15/07/05, Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:11:49AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: * Anand Kumria: [1]: URL: http://smh.com.au/news/breaking/debian-debates-support-for-ports/2005/07/12/1120934228145.html Apparently, this is subscription only. 8-(

Re: cpufrequtils init script in rcS.d

2005-07-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-15 10:50]: On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:21:52AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Mattia Dongili | - setting the CPUFreq policy must be done as early as possible in the | boot process (IMHO) Why? This looks just like an opinion

Re: pbuilder status update

2005-07-15 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, Thanks for the comments. Ideally there needs to be either * a login environment where changes are saved AND/OR * a hook that gets executed for an update operation, *before* apt-get is called. Luckily, since pbuilder 0.118 which was released 31 Oct 2004, there is a

Re: aspell dictionary packages fail to build

2005-07-15 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, The aspell dictionary packages build-depend on aspell-bin ( 0.60). aspell-bin is now a virtual package provided by aspell, but virtual packages cannot be versioned, so these build-dependency cannot be satisfied. There are fifteen such packages: I'd see a benefit in filing mail

Build-Depends: libfoo-dev more susceptible to breaking (Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal)

2005-07-15 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, BTW, having Build-Depends: libfoo-dev in a library's build-deps, will allow the developer to overlook a soname change in depending shared library. Which is a bad idea in the QA standpoint. Yes and no. The programer can overlook the soname change for the source. The API hasn't

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, Thanks for your input. Having a solid naming scheme will allow me to ldd /usr/lib/libwhatever.so to track down its shared library dependency, and appending -dev to individual package to create the list of requisite -dev packages. If this is actually necessary for

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, Having a solid naming scheme will allow me to ldd /usr/lib/libwhatever.so to track down its shared library dependency, and appending -dev to individual package to create the list of requisite -dev packages. With the current scheme it is: ldd /usr/lib/libwhatever.so to

Re: skills of developers

2005-07-15 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Fri, July 15, 2005 02:36, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote: Debian _Developer_. You can translate documents, submit then against the package as patch for example. You can even join to the translation teams. You claim that if someone spends just as much time translating Debian as someone else does

Re: cpufrequtils init script in rcS.d

2005-07-15 Thread Mattia Dongili
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:21:52AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Mattia Dongili | - setting the CPUFreq policy must be done as early as possible in the | boot process (IMHO) Why? This looks just like an opinion without any rationale. Sorry. The main idea is making power management

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 09:36:47AM +0300, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.07.14.1416 +0300]: libfoobar-2.1-0 will have libfoobar-2.1-0-dev. Please distinguish between API and ABI! True. Indeed the proposed policy is already followed in case of

Re: Build-Depends: libfoo-dev more susceptible to breaking (Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal)

2005-07-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Junichi Uekawa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: BTW, having Build-Depends: libfoo-dev in a library's build-deps, will allow the developer to overlook a soname change in depending shared library. Which is a bad idea in the QA standpoint. Yes and no. The programer can overlook the

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Junichi Uekawa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If this is actually necessary for libtool-using packages, then write something which goes through all of the .la files and does this, since that's what libtool wants to do. and Errr, you still havn't said what problem you're trying to solve

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Francesco P. Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 09:36:47AM +0300, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.07.14.1416 +0300]: libfoobar-2.1-0 will have libfoobar-2.1-0-dev. Please distinguish between API and ABI!

Re: interacting with the press

2005-07-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:12:36PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: On 15/07/05, Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:11:49AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: * Anand Kumria: [1]: URL:

Re: aspell dictionary packages fail to build

2005-07-15 Thread Agustin Martin
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 04:34:05PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote: Howdy, The aspell dictionary packages build-depend on aspell-bin ( 0.60). aspell-bin is now a virtual package provided by aspell, but virtual packages cannot be versioned, so these build-dependency cannot be satisfied. That should

Re: cpufrequtils init script in rcS.d

2005-07-15 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:52:52AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: Hi, * Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-15 10:50]: On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:21:52AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Mattia Dongili | - setting the CPUFreq policy must be done as early as possible in the |

Re: Updating dpkg-cross: file moving question

2005-07-15 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
The question is - how to process existing cross-compile environment, created by earlier versions of dpkg-cross. I am thinking to make the following trick. In postinst of new dpkg-cross, it will check for /usr/arm-linux, /usr/powerpc-linux/, and other places where packages created by earlier

Re: Updating dpkg-cross: file moving question

2005-07-15 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
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Re: Build-Depends: libfoo-dev more susceptible to breaking (Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal)

2005-07-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, BTW, having Build-Depends: libfoo-dev in a library's build-deps, will allow the developer to overlook a soname change in depending shared library. Which is a bad idea in the QA standpoint. Yes and no. The programer can overlook the

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Having a solid naming scheme will allow me to ldd /usr/lib/libwhatever.so to track down its shared library dependency, and appending -dev to individual package to create the list of requisite -dev packages. You could also suggest a

unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a year and the version increased to a major version during the time. Regards Nico -- Nico Golde - JAB: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GPG: 0x73647CFF

API/ABI in -dev package name?

2005-07-15 Thread Junichi Uekawa
libfoobar-2.1-0 will have libfoobar-2.1-0-dev. Please distinguish between API and ABI! True. Indeed the proposed policy is already followed in case of ABI changes. And any sane program would not compile when ever a library change its _API_ in a way not back-compatible.

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, Thanks for your time and feedback. I appreciate it very much. You could also suggest a policy for libs to have a libfoo.devname file similar to the libfoo.shlibs file but naming the needed -dev packages. If that is a good idea or not you have to think about. Just a wild idea. Yes,

Re: API/ABI in -dev package name?

2005-07-15 Thread Philipp Kern
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 22:33 +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Currently people just package libwhatever-dev and break API whenever they please. That's an upstream issue more or less. With libtoolised packages -release has to be used if the API breaks in a non backwards-compatible way. This would

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread Daniel Kobras
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:44:04PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Stephen's points are valid and quite useful considering an upstream developer's point of view, but for random user joe who is trying to find a development package, one of the following may help him find the right package 1.

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a year and the version increased to a major version during the time. I tend to request the user for more info with the new version; so add

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-15 16:12]: is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a year and the version increased to a major version during the time. I tend to

Re: skills of developers

2005-07-15 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h * Thijs Kinkhorst [Fri, Jul 15 2005, 12:27:55PM]: On Fri, July 15, 2005 02:36, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote: Debian _Developer_. You can translate documents, submit then against the package as patch for example. You can even join to the translation teams. You claim that if

Re: API/ABI in -dev package name?

2005-07-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Junichi Uekawa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Exactly! :) We must have a seperate tracking of API and ABI changes. To do otherwise is madness. Hmm... I don't think Debian -dev package and shared library packages really reflect what we consider to be ABI/API. Nothing documented about

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread Ondrej Sury
Stephen's points are valid and quite useful considering an upstream developer's point of view, but for random user joe who is trying to find a development package, one of the following may help him find the right package Joe user should do: apt-cache search libNAME dev (or use synaptic,

Re: Build-Depends: libfoo-dev more susceptible to breaking (Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal)

2005-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 05:18:23PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: BTW, having Build-Depends: libfoo-dev in a library's build-deps, will allow the developer to overlook a soname change in depending shared library. Which is a bad idea in the QA standpoint. Yes and no. The programer

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 05:30:44PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Having a solid naming scheme will allow me to ldd /usr/lib/libwhatever.so to track down its shared library dependency, and appending -dev to individual package to create the list of requisite -dev packages. If

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread Brendan
On Thursday 14 July 2005 04:29 pm, Greg Folkert wrote: But, I don't see the rendering problems others see. Of course I have an When I first started up xorg after the upgrade, it took a full 100% of the CPU. I restarted X, same deal...So I rebooted and started X, and the problem disappeared.

Re: API/ABI in -dev package name?

2005-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 04:02:48PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 22:33 +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Currently people just package libwhatever-dev and break API whenever they please. That's an upstream issue more or less. With libtoolised packages -release has to be used

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:42:44 +0200, Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a year and the version increased to a major version during the

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Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Also congratulation from me too. I thought of many think that whould be broken but only few packages I liked very much did not work anymore as they need xlibmesa-glu: xine openuniverse planetpenguin-racer audacity flightgear ssystem stellarium

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I will try to make a dummy-package which provides xlibmesa-glu and depends on libglu1-xorg. ;-) Hmpf, dosn't work as libglu1-xorg conflicts xlibmesa-glu :-( Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgenhttp://www.ethgen.de/ pub

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2005-07-15 Thread Miguel Gea Milvaques
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miguel Gea Milvaques [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: moto4lin Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Dmitry Nezhevenko dionua at users.sourceforge.net * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/moto4lin * License : GPL

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:21:28PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: Also congratulation from me too. I thought of many think that whould be broken but only few packages I liked very much did not work anymore as they need xlibmesa-glu: xine openuniverse planetpenguin-racer audacity flightgear

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:42:44 +0200, Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an ability to think, or exercise any judgement whatsoever?

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:21:28PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: Also congratulation from me too. I thought of many think that whould be broken but only few packages I liked very much did not work anymore as they need xlibmesa-glu: xine openuniverse planetpenguin-racer audacity flightgear

Gradual mass bug filing for C++ transition / gcc-4.0 issues

2005-07-15 Thread Daniel Schepler
I'm planning to start making sure every package which fails to build with the current toolchain has an RC bug submitted against it. In most cases, this should simply involve setting Andreas Jochens' already existing bugs to serious, although I'll confirm each before doing this. Exceptions will

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:59:21AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:21:28PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: I will try to make a dummy-package which provides xlibmesa-glu and depends on libglu1-xorg. ;-) Why do people think that xorg broke library dependencies for our

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Steve Langasek: Why do people think that xorg broke library dependencies for our entertainment, and that patching over the dependencies is an ok solution? Because there was no recent announcement on debian-devel-announce which provided some guidance for this transition? The packaging

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-15 20:08]: On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:42:44 +0200, Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* David Nusinow: I'm mainly depressed that people aren't reading Planet Debian, or are just ignoring it. Is there a better place to post this sort of thing so that users don't keep repeating the same non-bug? The BTS obviously isn't working for us here either, nor is posting to debian-x. I

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:07:55PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: * Steve Langasek: Why do people think that xorg broke library dependencies for our entertainment, and that patching over the dependencies is an ok solution? Because there was no recent announcement on debian-devel-announce

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello foks, Am Fr den 15. Jul 2005 um 19:32 schrieb David Nusinow: I will try to make a dummy-package which provides xlibmesa-glu and depends on libglu1-xorg. ;-) Please don't do this. We're trying to transition the libglu1-xorg packages and

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Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:11:15PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: no of course not but it would be good to have a reference value. it seems something that would be most appropriate as a guideline supplied in the debian developers' reference. sean -- signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:21:36PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: Am Fr den 15. Jul 2005 um 20:04 schrieb David Nusinow: I'm mainly depressed that people aren't reading Planet Debian, or are just Aham, sorry for my ignorance, but what is Planet Debian? http://planet.debian.org. Specifically, I

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * sean finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-15 20:43]: On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:11:15PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: no of course not but it would be good to have a reference value. it seems something that would be most appropriate as a guideline supplied in the debian developers'

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an ability to think, or exercise any judgement whatsoever? Welcome to the software industry

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 02:04:14PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:59:21AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:21:28PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: I will try to make a dummy-package which provides xlibmesa-glu and depends on libglu1-xorg. ;-)

RE: Bug#317892: ITP: bum -- tool to manage boot scripts

2005-07-15 Thread Thomas Hood
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:09:56 -0300, Humberto Massa Guimarães wrote: I am a fan of vi + file-rc myself, but... anyway, the packager should conflict this package with file-rc or depend on sysv-rc, whatever is better... Currently it does both. I think that it should just Depend on sysv-rc and

Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-15 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/15/05, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 05:30:44PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: An alternate solution is to have a database for that kind of thing, but I forsee that it requires effort to maintain and keep up-to-date. Like the database I just queried

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Re: API/ABI in -dev package name?

2005-07-15 Thread Philipp Kern
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 09:14 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Not consistently. Indeed, I've never heard of such a practice; can you give an example? Well in fact I saw quite some projects doing it that way and found it to be the cleanest. gtk(mm) and glib(mm) come to my mind if I recall it

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Re: Gradual mass bug filing for C++ transition / gcc-4.0 issues

2005-07-15 Thread Aurelien Jarno
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Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-15 Thread Andreas Metzler
David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:59:21AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: [...] Why do people think that xorg broke library dependencies for our entertainment, and that patching over the dependencies is an ok solution? The package name changed because it is *not*

Re: Gradual mass bug filing for C++ transition / gcc-4.0 issues

2005-07-15 Thread Daniel Schepler
Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 11:00:08AM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote: package transitioned, whichever is longer. Right now I have my eyes on jade/opensp/openjade, and possibly db*. I have already NMUed opensp, but it is still in incoming because of the

Re: Gradual mass bug filing for C++ transition / gcc-4.0 issues

2005-07-15 Thread Philipp Kern
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 11:00 -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote: I might also do NMU's for some of the more important packages, with a delay of 2 days, or 5 days minus the time since the last dependent package transitioned, whichever is longer. Right now I have my eyes on jade/opensp/openjade, and

Re: cpufrequtils init script in rcS.d

2005-07-15 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Sorry. The main idea is making power management more effective, that's why earlier is better here. I dont see why this is the case. in the bootup phase the system is loaded anyway, no need to throttle it. especially since this one minute does not consume

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Steve Greenland
On 15-Jul-05, 11:12 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an ability to think, or exercise any judgement whatsoever? Probably the growing

Re: unreproducable bugs

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Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an ability to think, or exercise any judgement

Re: unreproducable bugs

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Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Rich Walker
Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7/15/05, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/15/05, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having a hard time reading this as anything but a non sequitur. Umm; it follows more from Manoj's comment than yours. Ah. OK. Personally, I prefer for a solution to be demonstrated to work, both socially and technically, before it

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Rich Walker
Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7/15/05, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having a hard time reading this as anything but a non sequitur. Umm; it follows more from Manoj's comment than yours. Ah. OK. Should have sent two postings :- Personally, I prefer for a

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/15/05, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (As a practicing SubGenius, I like to think of the ornery, cussing Debian, up there with the Two-Fisted Jesus, and the Butting Buddha. Others may have other views) As a practicing Episcopatheist, I like to murmur, There is no God, and

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:14:07 +0100, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the recent push to get every little things written down into policy, so the developer no longer is

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Quality Loans made simple

2005-07-15 Thread Jodie Cortez
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Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:43:46 +0100, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You scale an organisation, I understand, by removing the *need* for everyone in it to be a genius at everything it does. Hence the comment about the US army: designed by genius to be run by sergeants. Ah yes.

Accepted arpack++ 2.2-6 (i386 source)

2005-07-15 Thread Christophe Prud'homme
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:45:34 +0200 Source: arpack++ Binary: libarpack++2-dev libarpack++2c2 Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.2-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Christophe Prud'homme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted sawfish 1:1.3+cvs20050709-3 (i386 source all)

2005-07-15 Thread Christian Marillat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:34:41 +0200 Source: sawfish Binary: sawfish sawfish-lisp-source Architecture: source i386 all Version: 1:1.3+cvs20050709-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Christian Marillat [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted w3m 0.5.1-4 (i386 source)

2005-07-15 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:10:30 + Source: w3m Binary: w3m w3m-img Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.5.1-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Fumitoshi UKAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Fumitoshi UKAI [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted freej 0.7.1-2 (i386 source)

2005-07-15 Thread Guido Trotter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:45:23 +0300 Source: freej Binary: freej Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.7.1-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guido Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Guido Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted phpldapadmin 0.9.6c-4 (all source)

2005-07-15 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:03:34 + Source: phpldapadmin Binary: phpldapadmin Architecture: source all Version: 0.9.6c-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Fabio Tranchitella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Fabio Tranchitella

Accepted gnome-spell 1.0.6-3 (i386 source)

2005-07-15 Thread Takuo KITAME
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:14:36 +0900 Source: gnome-spell Binary: gnome-spell Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.0.6-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Takuo KITAME [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Takuo KITAME [EMAIL

Accepted basilisk2 0.9.20050703-1 (powerpc source)

2005-07-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:54:02 +0200 Source: basilisk2 Binary: basilisk2 Architecture: source powerpc Version: 0.9.20050703-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Jonas Smedegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Jonas Smedegaard

Accepted pwlib 1.8.4-2 (i386 source all)

2005-07-15 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:21:16 +0300 Source: pwlib Binary: libpt-plugins-v4l2 libpt-plugins-oss libpt-plugins-alsa libpt-plugins-dc libpt-dev libpt-1.8.3c2 libpt-plugins-v4l libpt-plugins-avc libpt-doc libpt-dbg Architecture: source

Accepted putty 0.58-2 (powerpc source)

2005-07-15 Thread Colin Watson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:08:53 +0100 Source: putty Binary: pterm putty-tools putty Architecture: source powerpc Version: 0.58-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Colin Watson [EMAIL

Accepted gq 1.0beta1-3 (i386 source)

2005-07-15 Thread Guido Trotter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:25:46 + Source: gq Binary: gq Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.0beta1-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guido Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Guido Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted cd-circleprint 0.5.0-1 (all source)

2005-07-15 Thread Colin Tuckley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:12:01 +0100 Source: cd-circleprint Binary: cd-circleprint Architecture: source all Version: 0.5.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Colin Tuckley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Colin Tuckley [EMAIL

Accepted gst-ffmpeg 0.8.5-2 (i386 source)

2005-07-15 Thread Loic Minier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:17:46 +0200 Source: gst-ffmpeg Binary: gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.8.5-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Maintainers of GStreamer packages [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

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