Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-03 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Robbins wrote: I'd be happy just copying the file(s) that make up the database from an installed machine to the new machine. Is it possible? Which files? Yes, /var/lib/debconf/*.db -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Where's the prc-tools package?

2000-09-03 Thread Stephen Zander
Michael == Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael It's still mention in Suggests: etc. but the package is Michael not listed in the Packages files anymore. Just a Michael temporary situation or a real problem? Bit of both. prc-tools failed to build on sparc so BenC did any

Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Kyle Lynch
Hello, I'm Kyle Lynch, ive worked with Debian for a little while, it beats all the other dists :) Anyway, I'm wondering, is there any need for a website redesign or any icon needs? I have Adobe Photoshop and I am a expert at it. I use Macromedia Dreamweaver and I would LOVE to help this great

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 07:40:43PM -0700, Kyle Lynch wrote: Hello, I'm Kyle Lynch, ive worked with Debian for a little while, it beats all the other dists :) Anyway, I'm wondering, is there any need for a website redesign or any icon needs? I have Adobe Photoshop and I am a expert at it. I

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Colin Walters
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, IMO, anything that goes on the Debian website better be created by free software. No offense, but if I start seeing Made with Macromedia or Designed with Photoshop on the website, there will be hell to pay :) It seems very strict to require that

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Franklin Belew
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 11:53:41PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, IMO, anything that goes on the Debian website better be created by free software. No offense, but if I start seeing Made with Macromedia or Designed with Photoshop on the website,

Intent to Package: Lopster

2000-09-03 Thread Colin Mattson
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Re: Intent to Package: Lopster

2000-09-03 Thread Colin Mattson
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Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-03 Thread Richard Stallman
Then it must also be true that one cannot copy and then distribute, or distribute and then copy. Have you attempted to challenge them on this point? Do they have English professors at UWash, or just semioticians? I never thought of this argument. It could be a good point to raise

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-03 Thread Richard Stallman
Their position was that the words permission to copy, distribute and modify do not grant permission to distribute a modified version. In other words, they say you can distribute the software, and you can modify the software, but you can't modify it and then distribute the

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Jacob Kuntz
Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well, IMO, anything that goes on the Debian website better be created by free software. No offense, but if I start seeing Made with Macromedia or Designed with Photoshop on the website, there will be hell to pay :) There are several criteria for the

Re: gpm and X problem investigated

2000-09-03 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
As the gpm maintainer I will try and stay polite and explain some things. snip On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 07:46:51PM +0200, Massimo Dal Zotto wrote: I had the same problems when using the new defaults (-R ms3 and Intellimouse on /dev/gpmdata). Can you please give specifics? Another nasty thing

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Ben == Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Well, IMO, anything that goes on the Debian website better be Ben created by free software. No offense, but if I start seeing Ben Made with Macromedia or Designed with Photoshop on the Ben website, there will be hell to pay :)

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 12:54:34AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: God, this is a far cry from the early days of the FSF. The world of computing is a different place than it was 15 years, and the FSF has played an ever-increasing role in changing it. -- G. Branden Robinson |I

Re: location of non-debian deb package?

2000-09-03 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:45:48PM +0200, Vincent Zweije wrote: Hello Debian developers. I have a program for which I wish to build a .deb package. However, I do not wish this to be in Debian proper[*]. Should this package install under /usr/local or simply under /usr? I think under

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-03 Thread Michael Beattie
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 03:12:30PM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: P.S.: Please can you go without the PGP stuff for the mailing list? It seems to double the size of your messages. Thanks. I'd like to see Overfiends response to this. -- Michael Beattie

Re: dpkg-scanpackages arguments, output Packages files, and apt

2000-09-03 Thread Michael Beattie
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 08:44:16PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: This was what I had to write to make a Packages file in a flat dir: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html/debian$ dpkg-scanpackages . override ./ Packages You don't have to supply a third argument. and /dev/null works fine for the

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-03 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 06:49:22PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: Roland Bauerschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 07:10:30PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: As I said above, debconf is in standard. Sorry. I didn't know that. Dpkg and apt-cache still claim that it is in optional:

Re: APT problem

2000-09-03 Thread Michael Beattie
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:32:26PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 03:49:27PM -0700, Michael Meskes wrote: Could anyone please explain this to me? Did Corel do anything to their files that makes apt think it has to upgrade although its up-to-date? Or is this a bug in

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 12:54:34AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: God, this is a far cry from the early days of the FSF. Branden The world of computing is a different place than it was 15 Branden years, and the FSF has played an

why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Sergey I. Golod
Hello. Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? -rw-r--r--1 root root 749427 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.bz2 -rw-r--r--1 root root 1024180 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.gz It's about 25% can be saved in download. wbr, Serge. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Thus spake Sergey I. Golod ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? -rw-r--r--1 root root 749427 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.bz2 -rw-r--r--1 root root 1024180 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.gz It's about 25% can be saved in download. Yeah, but I guess

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 03:15:10PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote: Hello. Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? -rw-r--r--1 root root 749427 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.bz2 -rw-r--r--1 root root 1024180 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.gz It's about 25% can be saved

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Sergey I. Golod
Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Thus spake Sergey I. Golod ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? -rw-r--r--1 root root 749427 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.bz2 -rw-r--r--1 root root 1024180 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.gz It's about 25% can be saved in

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Sergey I. Golod
David Starner wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 03:15:10PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote: Hello. Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? -rw-r--r--1 root root 749427 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.bz2 -rw-r--r--1 root root 1024180 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.gz

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 04:51:53PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote: Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Thus spake Sergey I. Golod ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? -rw-r--r--1 root root 749427 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.bz2 -rw-r--r--1 root root

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 12:54:34AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Ben == Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Well, IMO, anything that goes on the Debian website better be Ben created by free software. No offense, but if I start seeing Ben Made with Macromedia or Designed with

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Andreas Fuchs
Today, Jacob Kuntz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does mozilla support SMILE? that's syncronized multimedia event language, a W3 consortium stanard that tries to do much of what flash is capable of. IIRC, only these programs officially support SMIL at the moment (http://www.w3c.org/AudioVideo/):

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Franklin Belew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If debian isn't even good enough to make our own web pages, how is that going to look in the public eye? 'Yeah, our distribution kicks ass but our web pages require Windows2k and X proprietary software programs to produce' Get a grip

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Sergey I. Golod
Ben Collins wrote: Yeah, but I guess it would take about twice the time to unpack. Please don't do that to my poor 486 :-(( But extra size = extra traffic = extra money, that's worse. Unpack no cost at all (except you time, ofcourse). wbr, Serge. p.s. If Debian change

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:09:27PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote: Ben Collins wrote: Yeah, but I guess it would take about twice the time to unpack. Please don't do that to my poor 486 :-(( But extra size = extra traffic = extra money, that's worse. Unpack no cost at all

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Sergey I. Golod wrote: Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? dpkg doesn't read the Packages file, libapt-pkg and dselect do. Wichert. -- / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your convenience

rsync problems with Debian mirrors.

2000-09-03 Thread rob
Hi I've got a problem with rsync. The same thing happens with all the mirrors I have tried. I'm using rsync 2.4.3 from woody. Other info below. Thanks -- Rob Murray Script started on Fri Sep 1 14:41:59 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/hda6/realhome/debian/test$ rsync --version rsync version 2.4.3

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 07:24:04AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: Now, we cannot save that much. Your example of compressing pure text is not a measure of this whole archive. I've tested it, and converted an bzip2 does great with sources. Packages maintainers can put large amounts of code in bz2 and

Re: ITP hodie

2000-09-03 Thread Peter Makholm
Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does it do? It has the same functionality as the date (1) program, only... It has it in grammatically correct latin. Couldn't this be done with gettext and the normal date comand? -- Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-03 Thread Peter Makholm
Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'ld prefer keeping 755 as a default. I prefer 755 too. Peeking in others configuration files has been one of my best way of learning new programs at uni. I prefer a singel 'users' group for users as standard too, but lets not change the default

Bug#70841: Dificult internationalization

2000-09-03 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva (KoV)
Package: project Version: 2903 Severity: wishlist the install/update system policy is too dificult to deal while wishing to internationalize, the dpkg's and other tools' implementation should be reviewed for a easier internationalization of the packet managing process. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Bug#70842: project: I want dpkg and apt supporting foreing languages because I can translate to Portuguese.

2000-09-03 Thread Paulo H B de Oliveira
Package: project Version: 2903 Severity: wishlist We have a project in Brazil to translate Debian to portugues with more than twenty people helping. We want to dpkg, dselect, apt support descriptions in portuguese. Thanks Debian People for so great dist. -- System

intent to package countrycodes

2000-09-03 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
Hi, I intend to package Country Codes 1.0.3, a text-based ISO3166 country code finder (yes, I know there is a Perl module that does the same, but this little tool is easier and more flexible). The package is actually already made and lintian clean. It can be downloaded from

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Andreas Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: None of them look DFSG-Free to me. Nonetheless, SMIL _is_ a nice tool to produce something multimedia-ish. Hopefully, somebody writes a DFSG-Free player in the near future -- but it won't be me, I don't need it (-: JFTR:

RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, In my never ending quest to get flamed over the WNPP, the next phase is moving orphaned packages to project/orphaned. I intend to generate weekly reports straight out of the WNPP information contained on the BTS and mail them to debian-devel-announce. The attached file is the

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-03 Thread Raul Miller
Their position was that the words permission to copy, distribute and modify do not grant permission to distribute a modified version. In other words, they say you can distribute the software, and you can modify the software, but you can't modify it and then distribute the

potato-proposed-updates vs. security

2000-09-03 Thread Igor Mozetic
Is there any difference between the packages in deb http://ANY.DEBIAN.MIRRIR/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/ and deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free Thanks, Igor Mozetic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: potato-proposed-updates vs. security

2000-09-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 07:09:45PM +0200, Igor Mozetic wrote: Is there any difference between the packages in deb http://ANY.DEBIAN.MIRRIR/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/ and deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free Yes. -- Mike Stone pgpzFNgreH9vi.pgp

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:06:34PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote: David Starner wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 03:15:10PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote: Hello. Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? -rw-r--r--1 root root 749427 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.bz2

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Jacob Kuntz
David Starner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well, some of us don't have that problem - most Americans have flat rate connections. i think he was referring to cost of storage, not cost of transfer. -- Jacob Kuntz underworld.net/~jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-03 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: Regarding the severity of the ftp.debian.org bug: important. Rationale: in the general case, packages that managed to get to this state are non-interesting (otherwise they would have been adopted already). That means

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Simon Richter
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, David Starner wrote: It's about 25% can be saved in download. Standards reasons - gzip is essential: yes on Debian, and is required for dpkg anyway. bzip2 is still priority optional, and it hasn't gained enough usage through other channels to be raised to standard. For

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-03 Thread Jacob Kuntz
Simon Richter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The packages file is the smallest part of the downloads -- What about the debs? it may be small but it's probably the file that gets transfered the most, espically if you run unstable. -- Jacob Kuntz underworld.net/~jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Ben == Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Have you ever seen the header of a JPEG output from PhotoShop? Ben It's full of advert/copyright for the program that created it. A Ben tell tale sign you can get away from without some sort of strip Ben program, which IMO is just cheating.

Fwd: Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Kyle Lynch
Actually, all im trying to say is, how can I help make icons for projects or at least help maintain the website? X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: emacs 20.7.2 (via feedmail 9-beta-7 I) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Time: Sun Sep 3 00:54:34 2000 Mail-Copies-To: never To:

Re: Fwd: Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Tommi Vainikainen
On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, all im trying to say is, how can I help make icons for projects or at least help maintain the website? Probably you should discuss about that on debian-www list. Also you can check bug reports for pseudo package ``www.debian.org'' on

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-03 Thread William Lee Irwin III
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: The follwing packages need a new maintainer: hugs (68186), 33 days old hugs-doc (68187), 33 days old I was under the impression that I was taking care of these two (although I haven't done much with them. Tony

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-03 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2903T125642-0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: The follwing packages need a new maintainer: hugs (68186), 33 days old hugs-doc (68187), 33 days old I was under the impression that I was taking care of

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 07:55:32PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 03:12:30PM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: P.S.: Please can you go without the PGP stuff for the mailing list? It seems to double the size of your messages. Thanks. I'd like to see Overfiends

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
William Lee Irwin III [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hugs (68186), 33 days old hugs-doc (68187), 33 days old I was under the impression that I was taking care of these two Package: hugs Maintainer: Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package: hugs-doc Maintainer: