Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously John Goerzen wrote: Incidentally, I have debconfized the following: base-passwd I'm quite sure I told you I wouldn't merge that until after the potato release. I also notice you didn't file the patch as a wishlist bugreport which makes it a bit harder to find.. Wichert. --

An Idea/RFP: x group /

2000-09-06 Thread Andreas Rottmann
I just had an idea reading a thread in at.linux discussing about xhost: Wht about a package that contains the following commands (yet to be written): xuseradd user # Add's the user to the x group xuserdel user # Deletes the user from the x group The package would have an config file where it

Re: Archive maintainers: Please relocate tpctl package

2000-09-06 Thread Thomas Hood
The tpctl packages still haven't been relocated. Is there some holdup? Thomas On Mon, 28 Aug, 2000 at 21:49:04 +0100, Adrian Bridgett wrote: On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 12:04:32 +1200 (+), Michael Beattie wrote: On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 04:21:21PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: Hi. Can

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Colin Watson
Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it would also be interesting to integrate this into Nautilus (the new Gnome filemanager) and (now that KDE is finally legal) Konquerer. You could certainly display some package info this way -- in particular, being able to display (in the

Re: Archive maintainers: Please relocate tpctl package

2000-09-06 Thread Michael Beattie
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:05:35PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: The tpctl packages still haven't been relocated. Is there some holdup? Time. sorry, I'll take a look this afternoon. -- Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: An Idea/RFP: x group /

2000-09-06 Thread David Z. Maze
Andreas Rottmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AR Wht about a package that contains the following commands (yet to be AR written): AR AR xuseradd user # Add's the user to the x group AR xuserdel user # Deletes the user from the x group AR AR The package would have an config file where it lists all

ITA: yacas

2000-09-06 Thread Gopal Narayanan
Having corresponded with the erstwhile maintainer of yacas, I intend to adopt the package. Upload of new upstream version RSN. -- Gopal Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Developer Dept. of Astronomy, University of Massachusetts, Amherst -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-06 Thread John Goerzen
If you want, I can file it that way but I just sent it to you as you asked. In general, I have been filing them that way. -- John Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Previously John Goerzen wrote: Incidentally, I have debconfized the following: base-passwd I'm quite sure I

Re: alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-06 Thread Brian May
Gerfried == Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gerfried On 05 Sep 2000, Andreas Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do most mail readers have the same command line interface? Perhaps, but I really doubt that news readers do.

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread John Goerzen
Frederic Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I started coding proof of concepts thingies; they should be in my home directory on master (~fpeters/, is this accessible from http ?) soon. There is also a screenshot at http://gaby.netpedia.net/pics/Screenshot_GUI_tools.jpeg I think the best would

Re: WTF does zsh 3.1.9 does in potato-proposed-updates ?

2000-09-06 Thread Clint Adams
Why a new zsh was introduced in potato-proposed-updates ? It's not compatible with thw previous version... What do you mean, it's not compatible? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: WTF does zsh 3.1.9 does in potato-proposed-updates ?

2000-09-06 Thread William Lee Irwin III
At some point in the past, a nameless Debian user/developer posted: Why a new zsh was introduced in potato-proposed-updates ? It's not compatible with thw previous version... On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 07:19:42PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: What do you mean, it's not compatible? The completion

Re: Fwd: Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-06 Thread Daniele Cruciani
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:07:54AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Kyle Lynch wrote: Actually, all im trying to say is, how can I help make icons for projects or at least help maintain the website? Well, I wouldn't mind if you could help me improve the webpages that doc-central

ITP: robodoc

2000-09-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
I have need of ROBODoc for my own free software project. This GPL'd package is a documentation tool for code. The home page is: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rfsber/Robo/index.html I have packaged version 3.2.2 of ROBODoc. The test packages are available at:

Re: WTF does zsh 3.1.9 does in potato-proposed-updates ?

2000-09-06 Thread Clint Adams
The completion control system has changed, along with a few other minor details. I am myself a zsh user and have since made the adjustment; I'm not sure the attitude others have towards their zshrc's. A number of the mechanisms used prior to zsh-3.1.x to control the completion behavior are no

Re: ITP or rather upload... KDE

2000-09-06 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:10:09AM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: Ok...I leave for an extended weekend and Troll get's freaky on me! :) Since I've been basically doing this unofficially for almost 2 years now working with Stephan Kulow who was the maintainer/developer and who has since

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-06 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:10:49AM -0500, David Starner wrote: The problem is not patents, it's that this particular patent also applies in Germany, meaning we can't distribute from non-us either. Pandora is not in .de, it's in .nl and is non-us. The issue is .de (and the rest of the world)

Re: apt and multiple connections

2000-09-06 Thread Andrew J Cosgriff
Jason Gunthorpe wrote : On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Russell Coker wrote: I would like to transfer several files at a time to enable usable throughput through slow web caches. Is there any way this can be done? If not can this feature be added? If I recall it isn't too hard, but it isn't

Re: QT-GPL

2000-09-06 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:29:14AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: Just read on Linuxtoday.com that trolltech will license QT under the GPL. Guess the 'river was lowered' instead of 'raising the bridge' (old Jerry Lewis movie title) so KDE can now go in main for Woody, right? Yes. Anyone

debhelper or fakeroot problem?

2000-09-06 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi all, I can not understand what is a problem but when I tried to buildpackage in woody system, dpkg-shlibdeps displaied the following message; dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: unable to find dependency information for shared library /usr/lib/libfakeroot/libfakeroot (soname 0, path

Re: ITP or rather upload... KDE

2000-09-06 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
I suggest you DON'T do away with kde.tdyc.com ... You have the infrastructure in place already, use it as a repository for latest KDE and people can just list it after the debian lines in their sources.list if they want more bleeding edge stuff durring freezes and for releases. Just a

Re: debhelper or fakeroot problem?

2000-09-06 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: unable to find dependency information for shared library /usr/lib/libfakeroot/libfakeroot (soname 0, path /usr/lib/libfakeroot/libfakeroot.so.0, dependency field Depends) [...] What is the problem and is there anyone who

Re: apt and multiple connections

2000-09-06 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 6 Sep 2000, Andrew J Cosgriff wrote: On a similar (but kinda opposite) note, are there any plans to add some bandwidth-limiting functionality to apt/apt-get ? No. It isn't very effective to try and do that from an application - use the services in the linux kernel if you really need it...

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Jacob Kuntz
Daniel Burrows ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Erm, how many 'newbies' are going to know what a class A vs class C network is, or what a gateway is, versus the number who'll freak out and run in terror? ok, now i hate seeing free apps/desktop systems that just copy windows, and i dislike even

Re: build question

2000-09-06 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:19:11PM +, michael d. ivey wrote: my main server is potato. is it bad for me to be building packages there if they are destined for woody? should i start building on a woody box? You could do source only uploads. Roland -- Roland Bauerschmidt [EMAIL

Mozilla update in Potato Proposed updates?

2000-09-06 Thread Frank Belew
I've been toying with the idea of uploading a new mozilla to=20 proposed-updates to get cleaned up before the potato R1 release. Any comments on this? Potato Mozilla version is M14 As of this Mail, Mozilla is at M17 If you have reasons why it shouldn't be in potato I'd like to know I may be able

Re: ITP magellan

2000-09-06 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:29:38PM +0100, John O Sullivan wrote: Magellan is a personal information manager under development for KDE 2.0. I am It looks great. But a few months back the upstream told me it wasn't even in a state to be demonstrated on LinuxTag here in Germany. a close friend of

mfm (frontend of mtools)

2000-09-06 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi all, I needed mfm for some application and visited http site of mfm http://www.core-coutainville.org/mfm/ then there is Debian package of mfm. But as I searched mfm in dselect window there is not mfm even in woody now. Will mfm package appear in woody in the near future or the one in http

Re: mfm (frontend of mtools)

2000-09-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: Hi all, I needed mfm for some application and visited http site of mfm http://www.core-coutainville.org/mfm/ then there is Debian package of mfm. But as I searched mfm in dselect window there is not mfm even in woody now. Will mfm package

Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:03:56AM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: Saved to branden.asc and 'gpg -d branden.asc' results in gpg: CRC error; 72a653 - dc372a gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been used This concerns me a lot more than the joke itself or

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:01:28AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and sent patches to XFree86 a long time ago, but the patch was ignored, and Dirk Hohndel basically told me I was an idiot for doing so, because it might unexpectedly

Re: mfm (frontend of mtools)

2000-09-06 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
From: Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mfm (frontend of mtools) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:20:11 +0200 (CEST) I needed mfm for some application and visited http site of mfm http://www.core-coutainville.org/mfm/ then there is Debian package of mfm. But as I searched mfm in dselect

Re: debhelper or fakeroot problem?

2000-09-06 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
From: Henrique M Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: debhelper or fakeroot problem? Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:08:55 -0300 On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: unable to find dependency information for shared library /usr/lib/libfakeroot/libfakeroot (soname

Re: alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:20:12AM +1100, Brian May wrote: How about defining a standard interface and using wrapper scripts to convert the parameters? OK, but what problem are we trying to solve with this solution? ie what is the advantage of /etc/alternatives for MUAs anyway? Hamish --

Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-06 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 03:34:39AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: gpg: CRC error; 72a653 - dc372a gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been used This concerns me a lot more than the joke itself or what led up to it. Does anyone else have this problem

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-06 Thread Jules Bean
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:00:42AM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:54:05PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Software has bugs, it's a fact of life. New software is more likely to have unknown bugs that affect more people. What makes the Helix packages so nice is the

Re: ITP hodie

2000-09-06 Thread Peter Makholm
Miros/law `Jubal' Baran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, package it. We have ddate for Discordians (in util-linux), we could have hodie for Ill^WRome citizens. ;- I've been convinced that it's not only making a nice latin locale. I'm only trying not to waste hacking time on packaging something

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Jules Bean
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 06:24:28PM +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: So I drew the conclusion that what Debian needs for those users is simple GUI tools. [some will respond here with we don't want those users and I won't agree. This flamewar already happened. GUI tools doesn't mean you have to

Re: debhelper or fakeroot problem?

2000-09-06 Thread Jules Bean
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 05:51:28PM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: From: Henrique M Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: debhelper or fakeroot problem? Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:08:55 -0300 On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: unable to find dependency

Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-06 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Python 1.6 was released finally today (for an announcement, see http://www.python.org/1.6/), and it was released under the discussed CNRI license. This license was intended to be compatible with the GPL, but RMS says he thinks it's not (cf. the announcement). Moments later, Guido and BeOpen's

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-06 Thread Jules Bean
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 11:43:21AM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: Still, if 1.6 were to replace 1.5.2, we had to check all packages that depend on Python, if we think their license is still compatible with the new Python license, and remove them if it's not. I'd opt against this. Yup, that

Re: alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-06 Thread Brian May
Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:20:12AM +1100, Brian May wrote: How about defining a standard interface and using wrapper scripts to convert the parameters? Hamish OK, but what problem are we trying to solve with this

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-06 Thread Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:51:59PM +0200, Karsten Tinnefeld wrote: I hope this isn't necessary. (you can disable this in bash, but then some other stuff (legitimate control chars) breaks, and since I only type umlauts on the command-line very occasionally, it wasn't worth the effort to

Re: ITP or rather upload... KDE

2000-09-06 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: kdenetwork - This will all happen after qt2.2 is released with the GPL lic and packaged/uploaded... (except for kdelibs and support which do not have the licensing issues) Be carefull, according to

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-06 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, From: Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:17:04 +0100 For Spanish speakers (like me), there's a task-spanish package, which installs (between others) a castellanizar program, which modify the global

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:08:17PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote: ok, now i hate seeing free apps/desktop systems that just copy windows, and i dislike even more the idea that windows is a good standard to follow, but i do have to disagree with you on this point. [...] as far as the network

Re: ITP or rather upload... KDE

2000-09-06 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:31:49PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: kdenetwork - This will all happen after qt2.2 is released with the GPL lic and packaged/uploaded... (except for kdelibs and support which do not have the licensing issues)

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-06 Thread Agustín Martín Domingo
Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina wrote: ... For Spanish speakers (like me), there's a task-spanish package, which installs (between others) a castellanizar program, which modify the global shell rc's for supporting ñáéíóúäëïöü... on any program, including the shell command line. There is

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-06 Thread Miros/law `Jubal' Baran
6.09.2000 pisze Tomohiro KUBOTA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): There is 'language-env' package for German, Spanish, Japanese, Russian, and Thai (for Woody). Maybe we need some more general way to define default system localization (giving the users a possibility to change this default is very good, but

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread T.Pospisek's MailLists
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Frederic Peters wrote: don't have tested yet. It would be a good idea to avoid duplicated work. So why not linuxconf? AFAIK it's the most powerful conftool around and there's *even* a .deb version of it. Further on it's pretty trivial to write modules for it and once done

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:08:17PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Daniel Burrows ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Erm, how many 'newbies' are going to know what a class A vs class C network is, or what a gateway is, versus the number who'll freak out and run in

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-06 Thread Santiago Vila
While we are at it, there are two bugs against base-files (#56275 and #62475) and boot-floppies (#67913) regarding german umlauts. * It's true that bash (and readline-based programs) rejects german umlauts? * Does it happen even under a locale such as de_DE? * If the answer is yes, does set

Re: alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:16:38PM +1100, Brian May wrote: Programs like reportbug, netscape, err I mean Mozilla, etc, wouldn't have to be manually configured for a default MUA. Nor would these programs have to support every MUA on the planet. Have a look at /etc/reportbug.conf for a sample of

ITP: Source-Navigator

2000-09-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
wnpp didn't forward this, so I send it manually: What is Source-Navigator? Source-Navigator is a source code analysis tool. With it, you can edit your source code, display relationships between classes and functions and members, and display call trees. You can also build your

Getting current keymap

2000-09-06 Thread Renaud Guérin
Hello, I'm currently writing a config file generator for an automated Debian install tool we're developing. My script needs to gather config information from an existing machine to generate an XML file with various config info (among which the current keymap) The problem is that there doesn't

Re: Fwd: Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Daniele Cruciani wrote: About doc-central, I think that a person who is looking for docomuntation couldn't find nothing better than doc-central: if you add image animated icon (flash make want little space on disk but great amount of calculus resourse), it will result more friendly

Re: debhelper or fakeroot problem?

2000-09-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Atsuhito Kohda wrote: I can not understand what is a problem but when I tried to buildpackage in woody system, dpkg-shlibdeps displaied the following message; That's a result of fakeroot messing around with libraries. If I remember correctly it was fixed in a NMU at some point but

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-06 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, From: Miros/law `Jubal' Baran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:28:51 +0200 6.09.2000 pisze Tomohiro KUBOTA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): There is 'language-env' package for German, Spanish, Japanese, Russian, and Thai (for Woody).

RSA Released Into The Public Domain

2000-09-06 Thread Peter S Galbraith
`The RSA algorithm was released into the public domain today (September 6th, 2000). This is in advance of their US patent expiring on the 20th.' http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/09/06/1252204mode=thread So some stuff can get moved from non-US/main into main proper? Peter -- To

Re: ITP: Source-Navigator

2000-09-06 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Adrian Bunk wrote: Source-Navigator works with the Insight GUI interface for GDB. Speaking of which, has anyone packaged Insight? If not, I'll look into it (not ITP yet... :-P) C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: RSA Released Into The Public Domain

2000-09-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:38:10AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: `The RSA algorithm was released into the public domain today (September 6th, 2000). This is in advance of their US patent expiring on the 20th.' http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/09/06/1252204mode=thread So some

Re: RSA Released Into The Public Domain

2000-09-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wednesday 6 September 2000, at 9 h 38, the keyboard of Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So some stuff can get moved from non-US/main into main proper? It's now free in the USA (it already was in the rest of the world) but it is still not-exportable (which was because of US

Re: ITP: Source-Navigator

2000-09-06 Thread Christian Surchi
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:36:36AM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: Speaking of which, has anyone packaged Insight? If not, I'll look into it (not ITP yet... :-P) I remember someone working on it, and maybe an ITP for it... -- Christian Surchi | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: RSA Released Into The Public Domain

2000-09-06 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Colin Watson wrote: I wrote: `The RSA algorithm was released into the public domain today (September 6th, 2000). This is in advance of their US patent expiring on the 20th.' http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/09/06/1252204mode=thread So some stuff can get moved from

Re: Mozilla update in Potato Proposed updates?

2000-09-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2905T215159-0700, Frank Belew wrote: If you have reasons why it shouldn't be in potato I'd like to know The question should be why it should be in potato. Oldness of the current version is not a reason, since there are a lot of old packages in potato, and if one is let in for that

Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2906T033439-0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:03:56AM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: Saved to branden.asc and 'gpg -d branden.asc' results in gpg: CRC error; 72a653 - dc372a gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been

Re: QT-GPL

2000-09-06 Thread Christoph Lameter
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:46:35PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: Anyone checked the temperature in Hell lately? Do you intend to go there? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: QT-GPL

2000-09-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:07:23AM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote: On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:46:35PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: Anyone checked the temperature in Hell lately? Do you intend to go there? Likely only to visit you, as I hear that's where all the evangelicals end up. -- G.

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Frederic Peters
Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina wrote : We can fill automagically some of these values. If a user types in 192.168.1.15 as IP, and the interface is eth*, we can figure out that the gateway will be 192.168.1.1, and class C (255.255.255.0). The user will be able to modify those values as

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Frederic Peters
John Goerzen wrote : I started coding proof of concepts thingies; they should be in my home directory on master (~fpeters/, is this accessible from http ?) soon. There is also a screenshot at http://gaby.netpedia.net/pics/Screenshot_GUI_tools.jpeg I think the best would be to make a nice

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Frederic Peters
T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote : So why not linuxconf? AFAIK it's the most powerful conftool around and there's *even* a .deb version of it. Further on it's pretty trivial to write modules for it and once done you can interface to the conftool through the command line, the web, textinterface,

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Frederic Peters
Jules Bean wrote : On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 06:24:28PM +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: So I drew the conclusion that what Debian needs for those users is simple GUI tools. [some will respond here with we don't want those users and I won't agree. This flamewar already happened. GUI tools

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Frederic Peters
Daniel Burrows wrote : I've been thinking along these lines too, but didn't want to mention it as I'm not likely to be able to help implement it. I'm thinking in terms of something slightly simpler, though: just the stuff a normal user (whatever that means) would need to set up and perform

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-06 Thread Andreas Voegele
Gregor Hoffleit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Python 1.6 was released finally today (for an announcement, see http://www.python.org/1.6/), and it was released under the discussed CNRI license. This license was intended to be compatible with the GPL, but RMS says he thinks it's not

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Seth Cohn
So, yes, why reinvent the wheel, if there are allready n^x conftools around with a new one popping up monthly (webmin, COAS, linuxconf, debconf, yast, ..., ..., ...) ? It's not going to make anything easier. Agreed. If you want to do something USEFUL, write a better webmin, debconf or linuxconf

bug database not updated?

2000-09-06 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi, Has the bug database been updated recently? I closed a set of bugs about a week ago but the database doesn't appear to have been updated. Please CC me any replies. Thanks, -Ossama -- Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Distributed Object Computing Laboratory, Univ. of California at Irvine

Re: bug database not updated?

2000-09-06 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Ossama Othman wrote: Has the bug database been updated recently? I closed a set of bugs about a week ago but the database doesn't appear to have been updated. Static pages are known to be outdated. I use lynx -dump -nolist http://bugs.debian.org/$maintainer in the

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-06 Thread Lars Weber
Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand fully that using the name non-US for patent-encumbered software is wrong. However, the machine pandora.debian.org is in an excellent position to also host a non-Software-Patents section of the archive, which can again be subdivided in main,

RE: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
1) Ignore Python 1.6 and up, as long as the license is not compatible with the GPL. That's probably the easiest way to go, but is it justified ? Looks like a deliberate discrimination against a DFSG-free license, only because it's not GPL compatible. 2) Include both Python 1.5.2

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 07:20:54PM +0200, Frederic Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Daniel Burrows wrote : I've been thinking along these lines too, but didn't want to mention it as I'm not likely to be able to help implement it. I'm thinking in terms of something slightly

Re: QT-GPL

2000-09-06 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:07:23AM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote: Anyone checked the temperature in Hell lately? Do you intend to go there? By the sounds of it, it's time to plan a ski trip ... -- Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key 1024D/DCF9DAB3 Debian GNU/Linux

debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/Contents-i386.gz

2000-09-06 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
It's almost two weeks since I last saw that file on the archive, I have tested several non-US sites, and none of them has it. I was wondering why is this happening, and if anybody could explain how to generate the file or reference me to the apropiate doc :-) Thanks! -- Manty/BestiaTester -

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-06 Thread Alexey Vyskubov
Python 1.5 I wouldn't put two Python versions into Debian. Also Python 2.0 will probably be released before the next code freeze and solve the license issues. Pyhton 2.0 is released already. And it doesn't seems that 2.0 solve the license incompatibility... Am I wrong? I hope I am... :( --

Re: bug database not updated?

2000-09-06 Thread John Goerzen
It ate a couple of my e-mails closing some bug reports but it seems to be working now. -- John Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Has the bug database been updated recently? I closed a set of bugs about a week ago but the database doesn't appear to have been updated. Please CC

Re: Mozilla update in Potato Proposed updates?

2000-09-06 Thread Brian May
Frank == Frank Belew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frank I've been toying with the idea of uploading a new mozilla Frank to=20 proposed-updates to get cleaned up before the potato Frank R1 release. Any comments on this? Potato Mozilla version Frank is M14 As of this Mail, Mozilla