Re: SCO license for Debian distrib

2003-08-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:37:15PM +0200, Nicolas THOMAS wrote: Georges Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bonsoir, Je ne désre pas lance de troll sur ce forum. Moi non plus .. mais je demendais ce qui ce passerai si un groupe publiait le noyau Linux en pretendant qu'il ne

Re: SCO license for Debian distrib

2003-08-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:22:53AM +0200, Christian Kaenzig wrote: On Thursday 07 August 2003 21:37, Nicolas THOMAS wrote: .. mais je demendais ce qui ce passerai si un groupe publiait le noyau Linux en pretendant qu'il ne contient plus une ligne du code incrimine. Ca reviendrait à

même programme en GTK 1.2 et GTK 2.0 dans le même paquet ?

2003-08-08 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
Bonsoir, Je maintiens le paquet jpilot qui est une application GTK 1.2. Le support de GTK 2.0 n'est pas encore terminé mais il est possible de compiler l'application avec --enable-gtk2 pour avoir une application fonctionnelle (le « seul » problème concerne le texte avec lettres accentuées donc ça

Re: mme programme en GTK 1.2 et GTK 2.0 dans le mme paquet ?

2003-08-08 Thread Benjamin Drieu
Ludovic Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Je maintiens le paquet jpilot qui est une application GTK 1.2. Le support de GTK 2.0 n'est pas encore terminé mais il est possible de compiler l'application avec --enable-gtk2 pour avoir une application fonctionnelle (le « seul » problème concerne le

Re: même programme en GTK 1.2 et GTK 2.0 dans le même paquet ?

2003-08-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hello, Le bug #196821 me demande : jpilot: compile jpilot with --enable-gtk2 gtk1.2 is on its way out, and jpilot supports gtk2 Que dois-je faire ? 1. compiler avec gtk2 et me prendre plein de rapport de bugs ? Plein de rapport de bugs ? La version gtk2 n'est vraiment pas au point,

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody who has to ask Why should I/we/they contribute? is not suitable for Debian. (The answer, incidentally, is because we can or because it's there, or some other variation; it is a goal in itself, and not a means to an end) OK, now *that* is just

Re: About NM and next release

2003-08-08 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andrew Suffield said: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 04:56:44PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: snip Wrong. There have been specific technical things I wanted to do which simply cannot be done easily as an outsider. ^^ Generally it's QA stuff. I'm doing it

Re: Zeroconf Debian?

2003-08-08 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 13:28 +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: I'm currently at the SAGE-AU annual conference, and Apple presented a paper about their Rendezvous technology, which is their implementation of Zeroconf[1]. Is anyone working on getting Debian to do any of this sort of stuff? There

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas

2003-08-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Nathanael Nerode) | However, not having enough time to chase down important bugs is no | excuse for not reviewing simple patches to fix simple bugs, which | doesn't take an awful lot of time at all. (It is a good excuse for not | reviewing complicated or subtle patches.) Once you have

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Goswin von Brederlow | How does a package become important? All the important stuf has been | in debian for years. I doubt any NM can come up with a new package | where people say: Gosh, if we wouldn't have that we would be screwed. Somebody ITP-ed cpufreq a little time ago. That's quite

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 07:32:43 +0200 Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody ITP-ed cpufreq a little time ago. That's quite important if you are using a laptop (which a lot of DDs are) with ACPI and you don't want to burn all your battery. New tools get written all the time, many to

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Friday 08 August 2003 05:23, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Policy changes, voting and the internal discussions all need membership. Having NMs hang in limbo without due cause is denying them the right to those. Voting yes. But to me it seems that most issues are discussed on the open lists

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Steve Lamb (please trim your lines a little, 72 chars/line is considered standard, to allow for a few levels of quoting before breaking the lines on a 80 char wide terminal. TIA.) | That is true, but that doesn't make the package important in | the sense I got from his message. What I

Re: Bug#204422: ITP: debix -- Live filesystem creation tool

2003-08-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Goswin Brederlow | Package name: debix | Version : 0.1 | Upstream Author : Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] | License : GPL | Description : Live filesystem creation tool | Sponsor : wanted I might be interested in sponsoring this, since I need

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 08:04:04 +0200 Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Steve Lamb (please trim your lines a little, 72 chars/line is considered standard, to allow for a few levels of quoting before breaking the lines on a 80 char wide terminal. TIA.) Please use a standard quote

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 08 August 2003 04:09, Scott James Remnant wrote: Thanks a lot for this one. -- vbi -- I'm personally quite happy with one stable release every two years, and am of the opinion that trying to release more will mean we'll have to rename the distro from stable to wobbly. -- Scott

Bug#204555: ITP: pconsole -- parallel console shell for administering clusters

2003-08-08 Thread Jesus Climent
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-08-08 Severity: wishlist * Package name: pconsole Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Walter de Jong [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.heiho.net/pconsole/index.html * License : GPL Description : parallel console

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Steve Lamb | Please use a standard quote character, which is . In that way | pretty much any modern editor in the past, say, 10 years, can reflow | quoted lines to fit within 80 characters. 72 was for the ~10 years | before reflowing of quotes. So it can if you use | or : or some other

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:08:38AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: Anybody who has to ask Why should I/we/they contribute? is not suitable for Debian. (The answer, incidentally, is because we can or because it's there, or some other variation; it is a goal in itself, and not a means to an

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Steve Lamb wrote: Please use a standard quote character, which is . In that way pretty much any modern editor in the past, say, 10 years, can reflow quoted lines to fit within 80 characters. OTOH, most editors can be configured as to which characters they consider to be quotes. OTGH,

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 08:52:14 +0200 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, most editors can be configured as to which characters they consider to be quotes. True, but reflow across multiple levels tends to break when one has different quote characters to contend with. --

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:06:56 +0200 Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it can if you use | or : or some other random character as well. It's still a bit silly to have to reflow all your paragraphs at the first quotation level, but whatever. Which I don't. Since the quoted text is

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Steve Lamb | On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:06:56 +0200 | Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | So it can if you use | or : or some other random character as well. | It's still a bit silly to have to reflow all your paragraphs at the | first quotation level, but whatever. | | Which I

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:46:20PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody who has to ask Why should I/we/they contribute? is not suitable for Debian. (The answer, incidentally, is because we can or because it's there, or some other variation; it is a

Re: About NM and next release

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:58:10PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Andrew Suffield said: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 04:56:44PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: snip Wrong. There have been specific technical things I wanted to do which simply cannot be done easily as an outsider.

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 04:55:19PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: (The answer, incidentally, is because we can or because it's there, or some other variation; it is a goal in itself, and not a means to an end) That, however, is not enough in and of itself. I *could* very well contribute

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:29:54 +0100 Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you have misconstrued it the other way. It really was You like it therefore you should contribute. No. There is a difference between these two statements: I like Debian therefore I should contribute. I

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 05:34:20AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: It's not like a developer could do anything more, in these two That being true still doesn't help non DDs to contribute. Indeed, but it also means that they are not reasons why people should be given accounts. cases.

Re: Zeroconf Debian?

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:28:15PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: I'm currently at the SAGE-AU annual conference, and Apple presented a paper about their Rendezvous technology, which is their implementation of Zeroconf[1]. My experience of Rendezvous has been that it is a network-thrashing

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:21:48 +0100 Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think you're going to get it, either. It's basically the same question as Why do people write free software?, and if you come up with altruism, politics, or respect then you're barking up the wrong tree.

Building kernel with framebuffer support (was: Re: GCC for kernel compilation)

2003-08-08 Thread Otto Wyss
I know I'm getting off topic but I don't know a better place to ask and this subject might be interesting of other developers as well. On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:14, Otto Wyss wrote: I just upgraded to the current Sarge and also got GCC 3.3. It seems this version can't compile all the drivers in

Re: Zeroconf Debian?

2003-08-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 08 August 2003 00:54, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:28:15PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: I'm currently at the SAGE-AU annual conference, and Apple presented a paper about their Rendezvous technology, which is their implementation of Zeroconf[1]. My experience

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 04:21:42AM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote: On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:21:48 +0100 Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think you're going to get it, either. It's basically the same question as Why do people write free software?, and if you come up with

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:33:24 +0100 Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit. Our community consists of heckling each other until we get it right. Membership is about doing the damn work; I guess that's a form of resources. heckle But I thought it was perfectly possible to perform work

Re: Zeroconf Debian?

2003-08-08 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:28:15PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: I'm currently at the SAGE-AU annual conference, and Apple presented a paper about their Rendezvous technology, which is their implementation of Zeroconf[1]. Is anyone working on getting Debian to do any of this sort of stuff?

Re: Building kernel with framebuffer support (was: Re: GCC for kernel compilation)

2003-08-08 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Otto Wyss wrote: I'd be good if warnings and error where duplicated into a log file. Were. The solution is 'make 21 | less' or similar. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. |

Re: Zeroconf Debian?

2003-08-08 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: If you have an admin who has properly setup DNS, DHCP, etc zeroconf has little practical use. Maybe not zeroconf, but somewhat-less-than-100%-manually-conf is good. Consider printers, for instance. The home user wants to see printers without configuring them.

Having more than one key in the Debian keyring

2003-08-08 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, In the next few weeks, I will replace my GPG key with a new one. Since I suspect that the time it takes for a key to be exchanged in the key ring needs to be measured in weeks or months[1], I would like to submit the new key and to retract the old key once the new key has made it into the

Unmaintained Packages (was: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas)

2003-08-08 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:39:52 +0100, Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp *was* unmaintained, for a long period of time. When exactly is a package (take ifupdown for

Bug#204577: ITP: spip-eva -- EVA is a french template of spip site, mainly designed for school and education.

2003-08-08 Thread Gaetan RYCKEBOER
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-08 Severity: wishlist * Package name: spip-eva Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Sylvain MICHEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://spip-edu.edres74.net/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=22 * License : GPL Description

Re: Having more than one key in the Debian keyring

2003-08-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:21:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: In the next few weeks, I will replace my GPG key with a new one. Since I suspect that the time it takes for a key to be exchanged in the key ring needs to be measured in weeks or months[1], I would like to submit the new key and to

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:33:24 +0100 Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 04:21:42AM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote: Membership is not about resources, its about community. Bullshit. Our community consists of heckling each other until we get it right. This heckling

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think any DD reads those? Do DDs care about Bugs with patches? And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp actually appears to be unmaintained. Many users requested essential features like pppoa and kernel space pppoe

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:40, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think any DD reads those? Do DDs care about Bugs with patches? And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp actually appears to be unmaintained. Many users requested

Re: Zeroconf Debian?

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:44:18PM +1000, An?bal Monsalve Salazar wrote: Is anyone working on getting Debian to do any of this sort of stuff? There is already a project for zeroconf [1]. And a debian source package [2]. There is also a paper [3] presented at lca2003 [4] by Brad Hards.

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:40:18PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think any DD reads those? Do DDs care about Bugs with patches? And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp actually appears to be unmaintained. Many users

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas

2003-08-08 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:25:27 -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: However, not having enough time to chase down important bugs is no excuse for not reviewing simple patches to fix simple bugs, which doesn't take an awful lot of time at all. (It is a good excuse for not reviewing complicated or

Re: Building kernel with framebuffer support (was: Re: GCC for kernel compilation)

2003-08-08 Thread Wolfgang Fischer
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:50:11 +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Otto Wyss wrote: I'd be good if warnings and error where duplicated into a log file. Were. The solution is 'make 21 | less' or similar. make 21 |tee logfile|less PS: You should ask questions like this in [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#204422: ITP: debix -- Live filesystem creation tool

2003-08-08 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 08:17:32AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: I might be interested in sponsoring this, since I need such a tool for work. I won't be able to take a look until I'm back home (which is on Monday evening CEST time), though. you might take a look at mindi/mondo, too.

Re: Zeroconf Debian?

2003-08-08 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 11:34:05AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: If you have an admin who has properly setup DNS, DHCP, etc zeroconf has little practical use. Maybe not zeroconf, but somewhat-less-than-100%-manually-conf is good. Consider printers, for instance. The home user

Re: Having more than one key in the Debian keyring

2003-08-08 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:21:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: In the next few weeks, I will replace my GPG key with a new one. Since I suspect that the time it takes for a key to be exchanged in the key ring needs to be measured in weeks or months[1], I would like to submit the new key and

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for August 8, 2003

2003-08-08 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 06:30:03AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote: Bug stamp-out list for Aug 8 06:00 (CST) Total number of release-critical bugs: 822 [snip] Whoa, sounds like time for another BSP! T -- The easy way is the wrong way, and the hard way is the stupid way. Pick one.

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsker
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 08:52:14 +0200 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | OTOH, most editors can be configured as to which characters they | consider to be quotes. True, but reflow across multiple levels tends to break when one has different

Re: Zeroconf Debian?

2003-08-08 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 11:34:05AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Consider printers, for instance. The home user wants to see printers without configuring them. The large-office admin, on the other hand, might want the reverse, i.e. to have printers NOT show up when they're NOT there. ZC can

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 08:29:54AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 04:55:19PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: That, however, is not enough in and of itself. I *could* very well contribute to FreeBSD. I don't. Why? Because I don't like FreeBSD. I like Debian. You're

get together at torcon3? Toronto, Aug 28-Sep 1

2003-08-08 Thread Blars Blarson
I'm going to the World Science Fiction Convention, torcon3, (http://www.torcon3.on.ca) in Toronto, Onterio, Canada at the end of the month. Is there any interest in a get-togther there or nearby? [Is there a better place for these requests? As someone on the NM queue, I don't have access to

creating official Contributors (was Re: About NM and Next Release)

2003-08-08 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
Not wanting to start yet another thread, but I not knowing where to tack it on... How about moving from the one-step application (one is non-dd or dd) two a two stage process: introduce the 'Debian Contributor' brand with very easy entry level, and only DC's (older than a month or something

Re: Unmaintained Packages (was: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas)

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:25:21PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:39:52 +0100, Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp *was* unmaintained, for a long

Re: Zeroconf Debian?

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:33:10AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On Friday 08 August 2003 00:54, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:28:15PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: I'm currently at the SAGE-AU annual conference, and Apple presented a paper about their Rendezvous

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 08:21:48AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:46:20PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody who has to ask Why should I/we/they contribute? is not suitable for Debian. (The answer, incidentally, is

Re: creating official Contributors (was Re: About NM and Next Release)

2003-08-08 Thread Stephen Frost
* Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: How about moving from the one-step application (one is non-dd or dd) two a two stage process: introduce the 'Debian Contributor' brand with very easy entry level, and only DC's (older than a month or something like that -

Re: Bug#204422: ITP: debix -- Live filesystem creation tool

2003-08-08 Thread Christian Surchi
Il ven, 2003-08-08 alle 14:46, Bernd Eckenfels ha scritto: you might take a look at mindi/mondo, too. Probably we should look at it to have fixed and updated packages in sid... :-) bye christian -- Christian Surchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Questa parte del messaggio

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 10:32:07AM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: * want to contribute something to a project they respect * want to help out Debian users * want to help promote the goals of Debian These are bad reasons. They are also the only reasons anyone would want to contribute to

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Friday 08 August 2003 10:59 am, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 10:32:07AM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: Funny. I thought the FSF was, at least origionally, more or less entirely about self-interest, altruism, and politics. The organisation might have been founded for those

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 05:59:52PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 10:32:07AM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: * want to contribute something to a project they respect * want to help out Debian users * want to help promote the goals of Debian These are bad

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 11:59:42AM -0600, Wesley J Landaker wrote: On Friday 08 August 2003 10:59 am, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 10:32:07AM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: Funny. I thought the FSF was, at least origionally, more or less entirely about self-interest, altruism,

Access to an ARM system?

2003-08-08 Thread Jamin W. Collins
Does someone have an ARM system that I could gain access to? I'd really like to put the ARM specific bug[1] filed against the Jabber package to bed once and for all. I've seen reports of Jabber running on ARM systems and of course the bug report of it segfaulting. Any assistance in this matter

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Christoph Haas
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:33:08PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: What we need is a database with simple mailing list function (similar to PTS) where willing sponsors for a certain package can subscribe and sponsorees with much motivation can send diffs for the next version upgrade. Easy to review

Re: Access to an ARM system?

2003-08-08 Thread Marc Singer
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:55:11PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: Does someone have an ARM system that I could gain access to? I'd really like to put the ARM specific bug[1] filed against the Jabber package to bed once and for all. I've seen reports of Jabber running on ARM systems and of

dueling banjos

2003-08-08 Thread elmer olenick
Could you send me a lead sheet for Dueling Banjos? Thanks. Elmer Olenick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Having more than one key in the Debian keyring

2003-08-08 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:21:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: In the next few weeks, I will replace my GPG key with a new one. Since I suspect that the time it takes for a key to be exchanged in the key ring needs to be measured in weeks or months[1], I would like to submit the new key and to

Re: Access to an ARM system?

2003-08-08 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:00:37PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:55:11PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: Does someone have an ARM system that I could gain access to? I'd really like to put the ARM specific bug[1] filed against the Jabber package to bed once and for

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Steve Lamb may or may not have written... On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 08:52:14 +0200 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, most editors can be configured as to which characters they consider to be quotes. True, but reflow across multiple levels tends to break when one has

Re: Access to an ARM system?

2003-08-08 Thread Marc Singer
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:33:05PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:00:37PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:55:11PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: Does someone have an ARM system that I could gain access to? I'd really like to put the ARM

Re: Access to an ARM system?

2003-08-08 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:45:10PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: So, you want the Jabber server installed on an ARM system so that you can connect to it and either a) verify that it crashes, or b) demonstrate that it doesn't. That's about the size of it. If this is so, then I can do this for

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 07:34:26PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: altruim, [sic] Self-delusion. (It's invariably a form of 'By doing this I can better fit the sort of person I would like to think I am'. People who disagree with this interpretation are probably committing it. Get out

Re: Having more than one key in the Debian keyring

2003-08-08 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:11:58 -0400, Kyle McMartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are you replacing your key? Change of $ORKPLACE, and a b0rken key policy regarding the old one. I wouldn't say the old key is probably compromised, but I feel better with an entirely new key created in a well-known

Re: Having more than one key in the Debian keyring

2003-08-08 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 10:49:43PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: Change of $ORKPLACE, and a b0rken key policy regarding the old one. I wouldn't say the old key is probably compromised, but I feel better with an entirely new key created in a well-known clean environment. Fair enough, though putting

Bug#204625: ITP: dvdauthor -- create DVD-Video file system

2003-08-08 Thread Marc Leeman
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-08 Severity: wishlist * Package name: dvdauthor Version : 0.5.3 Upstream Author : Scott Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://dvdauthor.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : create DVD-Video

Re: get together at torcon3? Toronto, Aug 28-Sep 1

2003-08-08 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Blars Blarson wrote: I'm going to the World Science Fiction Convention, torcon3, (http://www.torcon3.on.ca) in Toronto, Onterio, Canada at the end of the month. Is there any interest in a get-togther there or nearby? Ontario. Me too. Yes. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:59:52 +0100 Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 10:32:07AM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: Start with the things about Debian which are distinctly different from other projects. You should be able to find some things which you want to do which depend

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2003-08-08 Thread Asset Funding Solutions INC.
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Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 09:38:43PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 07:34:26PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: altruim, [sic] Self-delusion. (It's invariably a form of 'By doing this I can better fit the sort of person I would like to think I am'. People who

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:39:25 +0100 Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two pounds of flax. Oh, you play A Tale in the Desert? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-08 Thread Joey Hess
Josip Rodin wrote: Am I the only one who has a disgusting reminiscence of netscape*.* packages every time python* is mentioned? :P Actually I'm more reminded of the perl* packages and the complete mess that followed. And I keep expecting to see the same set of problems affect python. -- see

Re: creating official Contributors (was Re: About NM and Next Release)

2003-08-08 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Stephen Frost wrote: * Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: How about moving from the one-step application (one is non-dd or dd) two a two stage process: introduce the 'Debian Contributor' brand with very easy entry level, and only DC's (older than a month or

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 11:39:25PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 09:38:43PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 07:34:26PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: altruim, [sic] Self-delusion. (It's invariably a form of 'By doing this I can

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-08 Thread Matthias Klose
Joey Hess writes: Josip Rodin wrote: Am I the only one who has a disgusting reminiscence of netscape*.* packages every time python* is mentioned? :P Actually I'm more reminded of the perl* packages and the complete mess that followed. And I keep expecting to see the same set of problems

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 02:04:52AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Joey Hess writes: Josip Rodin wrote: Am I the only one who has a disgusting reminiscence of netscape*.* packages every time python* is mentioned? :P Actually I'm more reminded of the perl* packages and the complete

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:47:48AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: There is an alternative... only support one version of python... and be stuck at python 2.1 until everything uses it, or lose things like zope etc. Alternatively the python developers could try to keep backwards compatibility :-|

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 08 August 2003 05:23, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Policy changes, voting and the internal discussions all need membership. Having NMs hang in limbo without due cause is denying them the right to those. Voting

Bug#204658: ITP: develock -- additional font-lock keywords for the developers

2003-08-08 Thread OHASHI Akira
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-08-09 Severity: wishlist Hi, I intend to package develock. * Package name: develock Version : 0.20 Upstream Author : Katsumi Yamaoka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun'ichi Shiono [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yasutaka

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 05:34:20AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: If you actually dig into the list, you'll find that many of the bugs with patches fall into the same category as these two. Most of the rest actually need significant attention, not

Re: Unmaintained Packages (was: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas)

2003-08-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:39:52 +0100, Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp *was* unmaintained, for a long period of time. When

Accepted spong 2.7.6a-14 (all source)

2003-08-08 Thread Pekka Aleksi Knuutila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 00:15:09 +0300 Source: spong Binary: spong-server spong-client spong-www spong-common Architecture: source all Version: 2.7.6a-14 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Pekka Aleksi Knuutila [EMAIL

Accepted sp-gxmlcpp 1.0.20030807-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-08 Thread Stephan A Suerken
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 13:14:11 +0200 Source: sp-gxmlcpp Binary: libsp-gxmlcpp-dev libsp-gxmlcpp1 Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.0.20030807-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Stephan A Suerken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted ipsvd 0.5.0-1 (source)

2003-08-08 Thread Gerrit Pape
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:40:30 +0200 Source: ipsvd Binary: ipsvd Architecture: source Version: 0.5.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Gerrit Pape [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Gerrit Pape [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description:

Accepted openjade 1.4devel1-12 (i386 source)

2003-08-08 Thread Neil Roeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:23:59 -0400 Source: openjade Binary: libostyle-dev libostyle1 openjade Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.4devel1-12 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Neil Roeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Neil

Accepted pam-tmpdir 0.04-3 (i386 source)

2003-08-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:40:47 +0100 Source: pam-tmpdir Binary: libpam-tmpdir Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.04-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL

Accepted sbcl 0.8.2.18-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-08 Thread Kevin M. Rosenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 08:51:58 -0600 Source: sbcl Binary: sbcl Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.8.2.18-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL

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