Re: Pb avec entrée de menu

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Par contre je me permets d'émettre des doutes quant à l'utilisation de /usr/bin/www-browser. Si c'est un navigateur texte, vu que tu ne requiers pas de terminal, ça ne marchera pas. Utiliser x-www-browser serait peut-être plus approprié, mais

Re: lancement d'un daemon lors d'un upgrade

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Et tu n'es pas le seul. C'est pour cela qu'on a inventé invoke-rc.d, cf sa page de manuel. Si je la comprends bien, invoke-rc.d regarde dans quel runlevel on est et n'exécute l'action start que si le lancement du processus est prévu dans ce runlevel

Re: cles de non DD dans debian: Tout seul sur devel :)

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello, J'ai fini par craquer entre deux seances de recheche bibliographique comme je les aime, j'ai fait un ptit mail sur devel pour demander pourquoi on pourrait pas avoir les cles des non DD sur les serveurs debian. Et je me sens un peu tout

Re: .*_hppa.changes ACCEPTED, sans mon intervention ?

2003-08-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:28:58AM +0200, Ludovic Rousseau wrote: Bonjour, Je viens de recevoir : From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 21 07:52:15 2003 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Received: (qmail 6583 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2003 22:53:02 - Received: from

Re: Pb avec entrée de menu

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Eric Heintzmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Soyons precis : command=/bin/sh -c \/usr/bin/www-browser http://localhost:2317\; Ce qui est précisément ce que j'ai fait et : Argument invalide : « /usr/bin/www-browser http://localhost:2317 » Irritant, non ?

Re: .*_hppa.changes ACCEPTED, sans mon intervention ?

2003-08-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:36:23AM +0200, Sven Luther écrivait: C'est quoi ? Je ne fais des upload que pour i386. Un upload d'une compilation pour hppa (il n'y a pas de sources mentionnées dans l'upload). C'est un autobuilder qui cause ? C'est étrange puisque le paquet a été recompilé pour

Re: Signature de cle en Alsace (was: Re: Bug#198987: Is something planned for this bug?)

2003-08-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:41:38PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Philipp Kern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 15:33, Christian Perrier wrote: {snip} At least I'm not added as looking for keysigning. If that helps. I guess somebody listed from Haut Rhin would be

Re: Pb avec entrée de menu

2003-08-21 Thread Eric Heintzmann
Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Eric Heintzmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Soyons precis : command=/bin/sh -c \/usr/bin/www-browser http://localhost:2317\; Ce qui est précisément ce que j'ai fait et : Argument invalide : « /usr/bin/www-browser http://localhost:2317 » Irritant, non ?

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Surchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): From Netcraft newsletter and web site: Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html I'm not so sure about the value of their Debian geographical

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Christian Perrier dijo [Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:36:02PM +0200]: Wow.According to this chart, about a third of hosts running Debian are in France.. :-) For sure, several major web hosting and Internet Access Providers run Debian hosts for their key servers herebut I think this graph

stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Coker
Who is interested in stack protection? I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack protected packages for Debian. Probably the best way to do this would be to start with ssh-stack and sysklogd-stack being uploaded to experimental. I don't have time to do this, but I would like

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Re: Binaryless uploads

2003-08-21 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Since the source goes into Debian main, keeping the sources together means that we are distributing non-free material in Debian main, which not only violates the social contract, it may well be illegal (or have people who distribute

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-21 Thread Peter van Rossum
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:29:52PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: But the point is that without the key, anyone can forge mails which seem to come from me, and thus abuse the trust my work gained me in the mind of some DDs. I see this point as necessary even if not sufficient. Ok, a valid key

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:34:12PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 15:49, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:44:22PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: The negative effect for the users is that you can't upgrade python while wxgtk-python is installed so

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Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Brian May
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:57:06PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: Who is interested in stack protection? I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack protected packages for Debian. Probably the best way to do this would be to start with ssh-stack and sysklogd-stack being

Re: ftp.gnu.org cracked

2003-08-21 Thread Peter Karlsson
Scott James Remnant: If you read the script, I did, but I couldn't figure out what was the input. The only MD5 sums that GNU have provided are for 2.4, 2.4.1 and 2.4.2 Right. I sent them an update mail earlier this week, but I guess they're quite busy at the moment... -- \\// Peter -

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:18:24AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, cobaco wrote: I'd agree if there had been a rewrite of kdelibs or something, but kde 3.1 - 3.2 is evolutionary without big changes to what was already there. It

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:56, Brian May wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:57:06PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: Who is interested in stack protection? I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack protected packages for Debian. Probably the best way to do this would be to start

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:00:54 -0600, Jamin W Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 14:46, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 20 Aug 2003 10:51:54 -0400, Adam C Powell IV said: Greetings, Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, especially for newbies, what with

Re: Binaryless uploads

2003-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 23:40:18 -0400 (EDT), Jaldhar H Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Since the source goes into Debian main, keeping the sources together means that we are distributing non-free material in Debian main, which not only violates the

Re: Does anyone use barrendero, or know of an equivalent?

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello, The package barrendero is a candidate for removal from testing. It has I had a quick look at the BTS and it seems that the two RC bugs may be easily fixed (one is a missing Build-Depends on debhelper, the other an error in debian/rules for

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:16:05 +0200, Josef Spillner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - the KDE release plan might be delayed (as well...) The sarge release plan _will_ be delayed. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |

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Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
Martin Quinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Of course, I could (and have) uploaded my key on public servers, meaning that other Debian member could check than a given mail with my address desserve the trust they habitually give me. But those guys would have to configure their email

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Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:56:31AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:16:05 +0200, Josef Spillner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - the KDE release plan might be delayed (as well...) The sarge release plan _will_ be delayed. Quite confident, are we? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Xavier Roche
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Russell Coker wrote: Who is interested in stack protection? I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack protected packages for Debian. Also is there any interest in uploading a kernel-image package with the grsec PaX support built in? grsec is IMHO a

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-21 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 10:04:40AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: Ok. Lets leave aside for a moment the .debs which would go into contrib or non-free so would have to be built seperately. What happens if webmin-squid has an RC bug? As Goswin said, all the webmin-* packages will be held back

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-21 Thread Brian May
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 05:20:42PM +1000, Brian May wrote: As for the problem with the source file containing non-free code, if you have prestine source code, this is something that really needs to get fixed upstream :-(, eg. split into two files. Looking at the other messages in the

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jérôme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No he wouldn't. FDL is about free documentation. :-) Except it isn't :-) According to you :-) According to debian-legal consensus. Is

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:39, Xavier Roche wrote: Major issues for a ro-/ are maybe: - using devfs for /dev (kernel 2.4 and package devfsd installed) Devfs is getting less support now, it might not be the best time to start depending on it. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security

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Re: Transition: new PAM config file handling in unstable

2003-08-21 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Steve, thanks for the work. A couple of questions for clarity's sake (as sysadmin, not packager) On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 10:37:59PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: - Per-package /etc/pam.d/ configuration files should not include explicit 'password' blocks. Instead, services should use

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Thu, 21 Aug 2003 00:17:27 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:49:33AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:49:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Also make sure to include some leg room if you depend on

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: The only problem with that is the current failure to comply to policy, i.e. build from source

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsker
Jrme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jrme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No he wouldn't. FDL is about free documentation. :-) Except it isn't :-) According to you :-) According to

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam C Powell IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 15:02, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Adam C Powell IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greetings, Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, especially for newbies, what with hand-editing

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Of course, the signature is not sufficient to get the needed trust. But I'm coordinator of the french translation team since a few years, so my skills should be trustable, I guess. But the point is that without the key, anyone can forge mails

Re: Does anyone use barrendero, or know of an equivalent?

2003-08-21 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003, Steve Langasek wrote: But descriptions can be deceiving. Does anyone use this package who could comment on its reliability? Does the lack of other bugs indicate that the software is mature and stable, or unused? I am trying barrendero but don't trust it enough yet

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Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Quinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Of course, I could (and have) uploaded my key on public servers, meaning that other Debian member could check than a given mail with my address desserve the trust they habitually give me. But those

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
Russell Coker wrote: It sounds like we need a propolice enabled GCC. I have talked to Matthias Klose, one of the GCC maintainers, about this. He included the patch so he could built ProPolice-enables packages of gcc and g++ but he's currently too busy with other things. He might accept a patch

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Why not? Just block binary uploads completely, and let everything get built by the buildds. I certainly plan to do that with my own uploads. (I've already set up my own buildds). I'd go one step farther

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:22:38 +1000, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:56:31AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:16:05 +0200, Josef Spillner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - the KDE release plan might be delayed (as well...) The sarge release plan

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Xavier Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Russell Coker wrote: Major issues for a ro-/ are maybe: - using devfs for /dev (kernel 2.4 and package devfsd installed) Alternatively you can copy /dev to a ramdisk. And please don't use devfsd. That somewhat cancles out half of the

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This has been covered to death already. There are a sufficient number of respondents that see it as non-free. The RM's recent post indicates that possibly the FSF has even come around to the idea that their license is less than Free. Can we

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-21 Thread David Weinehall
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:37:10PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:34:12PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 15:49, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:44:22PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: The negative effect for the users is

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Sebastian Ley
* GOTO Masanori wrote: AFAIK, the unresolved difficult bugs are: (1) hppa build (2) dpkg (setjmp/longjmp) on sparc (3) NIS (will be fixed?) (4) misterious apache on ia64 bug. Note that (3) becomes ok to revert patches, (4) may be non-glibc bug. Well, they are still something hard work. :-)

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Miles Bader
Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Devfs is getting less support now, it might not be the best time to start depending on it. Indeed, it's looking likely that GregKH's `udev' will replace devfs sometime in the future. [It was amusing to see Christoph Hellwig's recent patch on the lkml

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: consensus n : agreement of the majority in sentiment or belief [syn: {general agreement}] unanimity n : everyone being of one mind A world of difference. No, no, no! You don't get it. There may be a

Bug#206537: ITP: horde-sam -- Spamassassin module for Horde

2003-08-21 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-08-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: horde-sam Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : The Horde Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://cvs.horde.org/cvs.php/sam/ * License : GPL Description : Spamassassin module for

Bug#206536: ITP: phpdocumentor -- php auto documentor

2003-08-21 Thread Juan Manuel Garca Molina
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: phpdocumentor Version : 1.2.2 Upstream Author : Joshua Eichorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.phpdocumentor.org/ * License : PHP Description : php auto

Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Surchi
From Netcraft newsletter and web site: Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html I'm not so sure about the value of their Debian geographical distribution, maybe... :-) bye Christian --

Bug#206536: correcting URL

2003-08-21 Thread Juan Manuel Garca Molina
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-21 Followup-For: Bug #206536 As Thomas said, the right URL is http://www.phpdoc.org, not http://www.phpdocumentor.org. Thank you very much, Thomas. Regards. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel:

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Surchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): From Netcraft newsletter and web site: Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html I'm not so sure about the value of their Debian geographical

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:59:30AM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: From Netcraft newsletter and web site: Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html I'm not so sure about the value of their

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Alexander Reelsen
Hi On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:56:34PM +1000, Brian May wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:57:06PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: Who is interested in stack protection? x86 only? Pro police is the most platform independent iirc. I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:13, Stefan Gybas wrote: However, ProPolice has not been ported to all architectures yet, see http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/security/ssp/statuschart.html for details. Not being ported to all architectures is not a problem IMHO. Such stack protection should not

Bug#206544: ITP: nicotine -- feature complete client for the SoulSeek filesharing network

2003-08-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: nicotine Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : Hyriand [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://nicotine.thegraveyard.org/ * License : GPL Description : feature complete client

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 21 August 2003 13:36, Christian Perrier wrote: I like having a significant following in the former Iron Curtain countries. So the two major former Iron Curtain countries seem to be France and Germany.. :-) Well, part of Germany was on the far side of the Iron Curtain regardless of

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Goswin von Brederlow | There is also another reason, not mentioned before, for source only | uploads. It takes way less bandwith to upload a diff.gz+dsc file than | to upload a big binary package. Bandwidth has costs for buildds as well. -- Tollef Fog Heen

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 05:52:32PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: AFAIK, the unresolved difficult bugs are: (1) hppa build (2) dpkg (setjmp/longjmp) on sparc (3) NIS (will be fixed?) (4) misterious apache on ia64 bug. Is there a bug# for (2)? If not, could someone forward the appropriate mails

RE: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Julian Mehnle
cobaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2003-08-20 15:33, John Goerzen wrote: tne pain of breaking desktops is no less when you consider how many more desktops we're talking about here. that's assuming that all those desktops crash at the same time no? No, it's assuming that all those desktops

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Citat Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Christian Surchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): From Netcraft newsletter and web site: Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html I'm not so

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Julien TINNES
Who is interested in stack protection? I am. I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack protected packages for Debian. Probably the best way to do this would be to start with ssh-stack and sysklogd-stack being uploaded to experimental. I don't have time to do this, but I

Bug#206576: ITP: livejournal -- The code that runs livejournal

2003-08-21 Thread Jay Bonci
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-19 Severity: wishlist -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: livejournal Version : 2003042200 Upstream Author : Brad Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.livejournal.com/code *

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread rintek
Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:13, Stefan Gybas wrote: However, ProPolice has not been ported to all architectures yet, see http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/security/ssp/statuschart.html for details. Not being ported to all architectures is not a problem IMHO. Such stack

Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Marc Singer
Are we expecting the latest unstalble gcc compiler to correctly compiler the kernel? gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.3.2 20030812 (Debian prerelease) I'm getting a new error when I compile the kernel. In the structure below, it doesn't like the declaration for slot_tablen complaining that

Re: Transition: new PAM config file handling in unstable

2003-08-21 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Langasek wrote: - It will now be possible to choose md5 vs. crypt passwords at install time without violating policy. (Currently, a number of conffiles are being modified by maintainer scripts in order to enable md5 passwords.) Actually making this process policy-compliant will

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Paul . Hampson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:37:40AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.3.2 20030812 (Debian prerelease) I'm getting a new error when I compile the kernel. In the structure below, it doesn't like the declaration for slot_tablen complaining that ide-cd.h:440: error:

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Ben Collins
__u8 short slot_tablelen; Isn't it just a plain error? Either it's a char, or it's a short. It can't be both, right? -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op do 21-08-2003, om 09:49 schreef Russell Coker: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:39, Xavier Roche wrote: Major issues for a ro-/ are maybe: - using devfs for /dev (kernel 2.4 and package devfsd installed) Devfs is getting less support now, it might not be the best time to start depending on it.

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:39:35AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: I am only realistic. When in history did a non-trivial software product meet its release schedule? I am surely hoping for the best, but I seriously do expect sarge to be released in early 2004. Which is a pretty good track record

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Brian May
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:16:46PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Devfs is getting less support now, it might not be the best time to start depending on it. Indeed, it's looking likely that GregKH's `udev' will replace devfs sometime in the future.

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Thomas Hood
We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-) Sorry, but that insult doesn't put a winksmiley on my face. Please don't try to start a useless flamewar. They break out so easily on their own. There is no need to discuss this matter here; it has already been thoroughly discussed in debian-legal

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-21 Thread Adam Heath
On 21 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Doogie already said he wants to implement a smart comparator for deb in dpkg 2.0 which would then be used to compare that different builds of the binary-all even give the same result. This means you give the 2 debs(which probably only differ by

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:41, Brian May wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:16:46PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Devfs is getting less support now, it might not be the best time to start depending on it. Indeed, it's looking likely that GregKH's `udev'

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 05:52:32PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: AFAIK, the unresolved difficult bugs are: (1) hppa build (2) dpkg (setjmp/longjmp) on sparc (3) NIS (will be fixed?) (4) misterious apache on ia64 bug. Is there a bug# for (2)? If

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Marc Singer
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:44:11PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: __u8 short slot_tablelen; Isn't it just a plain error? Either it's a char, or it's a short. It can't be both, right? That's what I think, too. It looks, too, to be something added in a patch because the indentation is

Re: What doing with an uncooperative maintainer ?

2003-08-21 Thread Thomas Hood
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talk with the maintainer. Or NMU. Or make noise on -devel. But don't fork packages. I agree and disagree. Talking with the maintainer works sometimes. Sometimes one is in a position to NMU. Sometimes it helps to make noise on debian-devel. But

Re: [RFC] Debian ruby policy (Re: Fw: Re: Ruby 1.8 transition plan; debian-ruby)

2003-08-21 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:53:12AM +0900, Fumitoshi UKAI wrote: FU Dmitry Borodaenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] FU libyaml-ruby1.8 (- libyaml-ruby) I think that since whytheluckystiff is developing Syck/YAML right in the Ruby CVS, there is little chance for a separation of libyaml-ruby1.8 in the near

Re: Does anyone use barrendero, or know of an equivalent?

2003-08-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:42:28AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003, Steve Langasek wrote: But descriptions can be deceiving. Does anyone use this package who could comment on its reliability? Does the lack of other bugs indicate that the software is mature and stable, or

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Jérôme Marant dijo [Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:18:10PM +0200]: consensus n : agreement of the majority in sentiment or belief [syn: {general agreement}] unanimity n : everyone being of one mind A world of difference. No, no, no! You don't get it.

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-21 Thread Stephen Frost
* Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 05:03:17PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: I doubt a poor translation would make it into a released version. A lot of poor translation get into stable, mainly by lack of manwork, but you are right no offending translation gets

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-21 Thread Stephen Frost
* Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Judging from the amount of translation rotting in the BTS, I guess some of you guys react the same way, and I want to change this by easing this trust relationship, if possible. Eh. Personally I tend to doubt it's lack of trust that's causing

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Christian Perrier dijo [Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:36:02PM +0200]: Wow.According to this chart, about a third of hosts running Debian are in France.. :-) For sure, several major web hosting and Internet Access Providers run Debian hosts for their key servers herebut I think this graph

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 21, Xavier Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - using devfs for /dev (kernel 2.4 and package devfsd installed) devfs will probably disappear. It's better to look at udev (which I'm packaging). - transforming several /etc files as symlinks and moving them to some other place (/var/etc ?)

Re: What doing with an uncooperative maintainer ?

2003-08-21 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 03:05:00PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: But sometimes there are fundamental disagreements about how something should be packaged and then it must be possible for two competing packages to exist in Debian Says who? Debian is not just a collection of packages, it's a

When to call update-alternatives?

2003-08-21 Thread Marcin Owsiany
Well, I know that in postinst and prerm, but when which argument is passed? I thought that cd /var/lib/dpkg/info grep -10 update-alternatives *postinst|less -S would help me, but it did quite the contrary. There is a total mess! A quick summary of how it is called in different packages: -

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:18:10PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-) Thanks for excusing yourself from the discussion thus. -- G. Branden Robinson| Software engineering: that part of Debian GNU/Linux | computer

Hungarian DDTP on the Xth B'day

2003-08-21 Thread Nicolas Bertolissio
Hi all, The main goal of this party was to translate Debian package descriptions. Unfortunately Gluck, where the ddts server is, was down quite a long time and installing a local server was not so easy as it was the first time I did this. The local server was up only a few minutes before Gluck

Re: Monitoring RC bugs

2003-08-21 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:05:01PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: So, all mails sent to bugs with release-critical severities, including acknowledgements of control messages, will now be copied to a new list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very nice! -- Jamin W. Collins To be nobody but yourself when the

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Miles Bader
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:41:16PM +1000, Brian May wrote: Indeed, it's looking likely that GregKH's `udev' will replace devfs sometime in the future. Dare I ask the obvious question: what is udev? Why is it better then devfs? It's mostly in user-space, lighter-weight, and more

Re: better make a standard for /etc/*/*_not_to_be_run

2003-08-21 Thread Thomas Hood
I retain hope that this discussion can end in agreement on the issue raised in #156161. Toward that end I offer the following interpretation of what has been said and finally a proposal. The original question was about how to prevent services from being started. Some packages employ a mechanism

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