Thomas Bushnell BSG tb at becket.net writes:
martin f krafft madduck at debian.org writes:
[...]
It assumes, for example, that the remote MTA will use the same IP
address each time it sends the message.
[...]
eh no. Standard greylisting practise nowadays (it already was standard when
sarge
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: ri-li
Version : 1.0.3
Upstream Author : Dominique Roux-Serret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maf464 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.ri-li.org
* License : GNU GPL
Description :
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
I don't think I understand just what you're saying. Can you spell out
the details for me?
Does the second email I sent (with the missing stuff) provides the
clarification you asked for?
It distresses me that I have said twice now that a
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[See the video of the Solaris
discussion if you want to see someone talk about it; you can also see
me discussing this issue and others as well in the same video.]
By the way, were can the videos be found? Last time I tried, google
wasn't helpful.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 06:15:55 + (UTC), Andreas Metzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas Bushnell BSG tb at becket.net writes:
martin f krafft madduck at debian.org writes:
[...]
It assumes, for example, that the remote MTA will use the same IP
address each time it sends the message.
[...]
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 09:20:19AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
By the way, were can the videos be found? Last time I tried, google
wasn't helpful.
http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/
Best Regards,
Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
--
http://v7w.com/anibal
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also sprach Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.07.10.0930 +0200]:
eh no. Standard greylisting practise nowadays (it already was
standard when sarge was released) is to not greylist on host IP
but at least on the /27 netblock.
So you will whitelist the spamming customer in the same rack farm
On Monday 10 July 2006 09:30, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 09:20:19AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
By the way, were can the videos be found? Last time I tried, google
wasn't helpful.
http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/
But most are still missing
Hi,
On Monday 10 July 2006 10:20, Frans Pop wrote:
http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/
But most are still missing there :-(
I am painfully aware of this. And I am doing and have been doing what I can
do, which is not much (*). There is some light on the horizon now, so
On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 10:09 -0600, Art Edwards wrote:
This brought up the question, who uses 64 bit Linux anyway?
Surely gamers do not drive the 64-bit linux community. It can't be the desktop
community, seeing that the standard office tool doesn't really
work for 64-bit.
I've been quite
On Jul 10, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am concerned that you not use a spam-defeating technique which
blocks perfectly legitimate and standards-compliant email.
Then why you are not loudly complaining about the antispam software
currently applied to our mail lists and BTS,
Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Art Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unless such core pieces as the debugging tool (ddd) and the data
display tool (xmgrace) are working, it is dishonest to pretend that
the 64-bit version is ready for testing. It would be very nice if
you, and other
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tyler MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
1. If you #include a header directly, you have to depend on that
package.
[...]
I guess you could scan for all directly used include files and then
check with dpkg what packages they belong
* Thibaut VARENE
| Package: wnpp
| Severity: wishlist
| Owner: Thibaut VARENE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| * Package name: schedtools
| Version : 1.2.6
| Upstream Author : Freek http://freshmeat.net/projects/schedtool/
| * URL : http://freequaos.host.sk/schedtool/
| *
Hi
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 23:35:33 +0200
Thibaut VARENE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Package name: schedtools
Version : 1.2.6
Upstream Author : Freek http://freshmeat.net/projects/schedtool/
* URL : http://freequaos.host.sk/schedtool/
* License : GPLv2
On Monday 10 July 2006 16:54, Michal Čihař wrote:
Hi
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 23:35:33 +0200
Thibaut VARENE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Package name: schedtools
Version : 1.2.6
Upstream Author : Freek http://freshmeat.net/projects/schedtool/
* URL :
On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 10:49 +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote:
If I need to subscribe to a bug I can't use the web interface.
The answer you might give is, Oh! Send am email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This may be a simple way to add that behaviour.
[snip]
I filed bug #353260 with a patch to do exactly
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 07:39:19AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Le lun 10 juillet 2006 02:17, Matthew R. Dempsky a écrit :
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:02:39PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Another problem is with hosts that do not accept a message from an
MTA unless that MTA is
On Sunday 09 July 2006 15:48, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
[greylisting]
The point was about mailers sending mail to debian. If they receive a
4xx they have to queue the mail and retry later. It's cheap for
debian, but expensive for everyone else.
Does anybody have sensible numbers about
Carlos Villegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi, a list containing the LSB-compliance to runtime dependencies of
init scripts is now available at
URL:http://initscripts-ng.alioth.debian.org/soc2006-bootsystem/lsblist.html.
Looks like it's not updated. I did a check in alsa package and its bug
On Monday 10 July 2006 02:17, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:02:39PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Another problem is with hosts that do not accept a message from an MTA
unless that MTA is willing to accept replies. This is a common spam
prevention measure.
It
On Monday 10 July 2006 06:58, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Doing sender verification and graylisting are both violations of the
RFCs.
Which rfcs and where, exactly? Specific filename, version and line numbers,
as Kimball would say it.
AFAICT, the protocol allows the receiving end to
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 05:57:45PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
On Monday 10 July 2006 02:17, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:02:39PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Another problem is with hosts that do not accept a message from an MTA
unless that MTA is willing
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said:
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyway, I'll be interested to hear a summary of their arguments, as
Christian Perrier requested. I find it hard to imagine how properly
configured greylisting should cause any problems.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
On Monday 10 July 2006 02:17, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:02:39PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Another problem is with hosts that do not accept a message from an MTA
unless that MTA is willing to accept replies.
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thomas Bushnell BSG tb at becket.net writes:
martin f krafft madduck at debian.org writes:
[...]
It assumes, for example, that the remote MTA will use the same IP
address each time it sends the message.
[...]
eh no. Standard greylisting practise
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's better than not greylisting anyone. Nobody is trying to
design the perfect spam filter. We just want to reduce spam on
debian.org.
A perfect spam filter is one which catches all spam and bounces no
valid mail. Saying we aren't trying to be
On Jul 10, Adrian von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AFAICT, the protocol allows the receiving end to temporarily reject email,
and the sending end will retry. AFAICT QUIT is allowed after RCPT TO to
abort a mail transaction - and sender verification is no different from a
normal mail
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Read below. When you do, please remember that many of us consider that a
fully-open system which drowns us in SPAM is also broken, because you do
lose information for failure of locating it among the noise.
You may lose that information;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Jul 10, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am concerned that you not use a spam-defeating technique which
blocks perfectly legitimate and standards-compliant email.
Then why you are not loudly complaining about the antispam software
On Jul 10, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want you to be explicit and clear about which new rules you are
writing into the RFCs, so that people can conform to them. You are
making up new standards and hosing people who do not comply; at the
very least you have an obligation
This one time, at band camp, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh said:
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
On Monday 10 July 2006 02:17, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:02:39PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Another problem is with hosts that do not accept a
LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) writes (Re: A question on setting setuid bit):
This is an experimental package that we built and
evaluate internally (up to this moment). The program
that needs setuid is a cgi-bin program that is invoked
by apache2, which runs as a regular user www-data. The
cgi-bin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Jul 10, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want you to be explicit and clear about which new rules you are
writing into the RFCs, so that people can conform to them. You are
making up new standards and hosing people who do not comply;
On 7/10/06, Michal Čihař [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 23:35:33 +0200
Thibaut VARENE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Package name: schedtools
Version : 1.2.6
Upstream Author : Freek http://freshmeat.net/projects/schedtool/
* URL :
On Jul 10, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm speaking about Debian here. We stand for openness, clarity, and
free software. We stand for the interests of our users. We do not
We used to. Nowadays we stand for the mechanical veneration of holy
principles.
--
ciao,
Marco
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 20:15 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
NB: Please follow Debian list policy and refrain from Cc:'ing me.
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Erast Benson wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 08:39 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Erast Benson wrote:
what? you think if it is
On 2006-07-10 Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thomas Bushnell BSG tb at becket.net writes:
martin f krafft madduck at debian.org writes:
[...]
It assumes, for example, that the remote MTA will use the same IP
address each time it
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Robert S. Edmonds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: avenger
Version : 0.7.6
Upstream Author : David Mazieres
* URL : http://www.mailavenger.org/
* License : GPL, BSD
Programming Lang: C, C++
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Jul 10, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am concerned that you not use a spam-defeating technique which
blocks perfectly legitimate and standards-compliant email.
Then why you are not loudly complaining about the antispam software
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 00:24, Don Armstrong wrote:
At least for the BTS, those messages are not discarded; they're just
separated out and processing on them is halted. Blars spends a lot of
time looking at borderline messages to put back in non-spam into the
queue, and catches most of them.
Frans Pop wrote:
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 00:24, Don Armstrong wrote:
At least for the BTS, those messages are not discarded; they're just
separated out and processing on them is halted. Blars spends a lot of
time looking at borderline messages to put back in non-spam into the
queue, and catches
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At least for the BTS, those messages are not discarded; they're just
separated out and processing on them is halted. Blars spends a lot of
time looking at borderline messages to put back in non-spam into the
queue, and catches most of them.
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 05:57:45PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
On Monday 10 July 2006 02:17, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:02:39PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Another problem is with hosts that do not accept a message from an MTA
unless that MTA is willing
This one time, at band camp, Luigi Gangitano said:
severity 377697 important
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[ I'm taking this to debian-devel seeking for broader consensus ]
Latest versions of squid (2.6.x and 3.0.x) support the epoll()
function that is provided by 2.6 kernels. This speeds up seek
On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 02:39:00AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
In fact, broken servers which don't obey MX will _already_ fail:
[ demonstration that debian.org doesn't accept RCPT TO @debian.org ]
The issue isn't whether MTA's check against MX or A records, it's
whether they check the IP that
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's better than not greylisting anyone. Nobody is trying to
design the perfect spam filter. We just want to reduce spam on
debian.org.
A perfect spam filter is one which catches all spam and
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Erast Benson wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 20:15 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
NB: Please follow Debian list policy and refrain from Cc:'ing me.
CDDL 3.1 requires that Covered Works made available in
Here's the story: I get way too much spam email these days, and so I've
started using a spam blocker. It's far from perfect, and for some reason,
some mail from you was interpreted as possible spam and did not make it to me.
Assuming you're an actual real person reading this (Hi!), you will have
I have a new email address!You can now email me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]FINANCIAL PROPOSAL OF $32M WITH YOUR DEFINITE DETAILS OF INTEREST FROM JULIAN P FOERSTER LONDON- JulianPThurston Thurston
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