Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Christian Aichinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a start, I've written a script that searches for unnecessary dependencies and reports them. Results are available here: http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib A problem means that the package has useless dependencies on library packages. This

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Aichinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A problem means that the package has useless dependencies on library packages. This causes the kind of trouble outlined above and should be fixed. A HOWTO is here:

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Aichinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A problem means that the package has useless dependencies on library packages. This causes the kind of trouble outlined above and should be fixed. A HOWTO is

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Richard Atterer] On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:40:49PM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: Thank you for this very cool effort! Might we see checklib packaged for Debian soon? Hmm, maybe the functionality could be included in lintian? See #340934. Henning wrote this lintian check several

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 17:27 +0200, Michael Banck wrote: How about we drop the XFCE Desktop CD, make sure the necessary packages end up on CD #2 and advise those people to either install regular CD #1 and #2 or use taskself via http/ftp? Having one CD to maintain/care about less might be

Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Christoph Haas
Hi, devs... I have tried the new Etch installer last weekend and I'm impressed. The installation works perfectly well and the graphical installer - while it doesn't add much value IMHO to the dialog based installer - looks nice and will surely be liked by many users. Kudos to the installer

Re: Bug#389053: apache2-common: API module structure `perl_module' in file /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_perl.so is garbled

2006-09-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 08:37:47AM +0100, Thom May wrote: Cc:ing to d-d to get a wider audience. Well, I thought the same but then I did a little test (which I'm sorry I forgot to mention before): [...] /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load: API module structure `php5_module' in file

Re: Compatibility between Debian amd64 and other distributions

2006-09-26 Thread Andreas Jochens
Hello Frans, Frans Pop wrote: Andreas Jochens wrote: The proposed glibc patch will break the installer. The installer does not have the symlink from /usr/lib64 to /usr/lib. (This is not by accident. It has been decided following some discussion.) The symlink currently is there actually:

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Mario Iseli
Hi, I can only agree to the oppinion of Chris. One of the strongest advantages of Debian is: * It's customizable, you can install your system as you want it, with * all nice extras. * Every system is a little bit individual, but still maintainable. For * example it's not so individual as a

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Christian Aichinger 2006-09-25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] As a start, I've written a script that searches for unnecessary dependencies and reports them. Results are available here: http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib DDPO (aka developer.php) has a link to the list of checklib results per maintainer.

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Christoph Haas] Currently the way to install KDE is to provide the option tasksel/first=kde-desktop when booting the Etch installer CD. No user will guess that. Ah, is that how it is done. Thank you for the clue. It should be mentioned in the documentation available on F2-10 when the CD

Re: Bug#389053: apache2-common: API module structure `perl_module' in file /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_perl.so is garbled

2006-09-26 Thread Thom May
* Luca Capello ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Hello! Cc:ing to d-d to get a wider audience. Well, I thought the same but then I did a little test (which I'm sorry I forgot to mention before): [...] /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load: API module structure `php5_module' in file

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:12:58AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: What I would expect at least: Rename the task from Desktop to Desktop (Gnome) so more experienced users know what's coming up. Should we also have Mail Server (exim4) and Mail Server (postfix) for the same reason? tasksel is for

Re: Compatibility between Debian amd64 and other distributions

2006-09-26 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 08:11, Andreas Jochens wrote: rootskel only creates the symlink from /lib64 to /lib which is required to run dynamically linked binaries. It does _not_ create the symlink from /usr/lib64 to /usr/lib. Sorry, my mistake. Missed the /usr/ bit :-( pgpZmrpeO4K3F.pgp

FAQ, Re: new mplayer

2006-09-26 Thread A Mennucc
hi everybody I just now notice the debate on mplayer going on; so here are a few answers [many people] MPlayer dev team and Debian do not work together this is not the case. I have been working with Diego Biurrun (of the mplayer team) and Joerg Jaspert (of ftp-master team) many changes that

Free flash player for your browser (Was: Running x86-64 debian inside i386 pbuilder on AMD64)

2006-09-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Tollef Fog Heen] Not having flash is a good, not a bad thing to me at least. :-) Now you can have flash support for your browser in unstable, at least, by installing the mozilla-plugin-gnash or konqueror-plugin-gnash package. The gnash package is already capable of running quite a few flash

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Steve Langasek 2006-09-26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I would expect at least: Rename the task from Desktop to Desktop (Gnome) so more experienced users know what's coming up. Should we also have Mail Server (exim4) and Mail Server (postfix) for the same reason? Sarge's desktop task

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:12:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Hey. If we have a programmatic way of detecting this cases, why not just fold that into the shlibdeps program, and be done with it? Note that if a shared object has constructor and/or destructor functions then there is NO

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Christian Aichinger
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 01:34:50PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: You could invent a mechanism to tag a library as never to remove even if no symbols appear to be referenced. Since this should be quite rare even a single (config?) file listing all problematic libraries would be enough, at least in

Re: non-free artwork in main

2006-09-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 26 septembre 2006 à 14:57 +0200, Bastian Venthur a écrit : Hi, today I received two bugreports regarding non-free artwork in my packages. I maintain several iconsets with thousands of icons. I think it is quite impossible to check every single icon whether it is free or not. Most

non-free artwork in main

2006-09-26 Thread Bastian Venthur
Hi, today I received two bugreports regarding non-free artwork in my packages. I maintain several iconsets with thousands of icons. I think it is quite impossible to check every single icon whether it is free or not. Most icons don't contain a copyright string, so grepping for certain keywords

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 12:35:35PM +0200, Christian Aichinger wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:12:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Hey. If we have a programmatic way of detecting this cases, why not just fold that into the shlibdeps program, and be done with it? As pointed out by

Re: non-free artwork in main

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Küster
Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I make sure that my packages are really clean? Is there a best-practice solution for situations like this? Should artwork be generally considered non-free to avoid violations (even when it contains free stuff)? I think in order to have

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 9/26/06, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Christoph Haas] Currently the way to install KDE is to provide the option tasksel/first=kde-desktop when booting the Etch installer CD. No user will guess that. Ah, is that how it is done. Thank you for the clue. It should be

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 9/26/06, Christoph Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, devs... I have tried the new Etch installer last weekend and I'm impressed. The installation works perfectly well and the graphical installer - while it doesn't add much value IMHO to the dialog based installer - looks nice and will surely

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:23:50AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: though. My proposal is generate: Debian GNOME Desktop CD (installs by default desktop and gnome-desktop tasks) Debian KDE Desktop CD (installs by default desktop and kde-desktop tasks) Debian XFCE Desktop CD (xfce-desktop

Re: transition plan for apt-listbugs onto Debian infrastructure: temporarily on merkel.debian.org, then move over to bugs.debian.org

2006-09-26 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, RewriteRule ^/indices/(index\.db(.*\.gz)?)$ http://merkel.debian.org/~dancer/apt-listbugs/$1 [L,R] RewriteRule ^/cgi-bin/soap.cgi http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/soap.cgi [L,R] in the apache.conf for b.d.o; I don't remember if a redirect on a POST will work properly, but

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Christoph Haas
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 11:25, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:12:58AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: What I would expect at least: Rename the task from Desktop to Desktop (Gnome) so more experienced users know what's coming up. Should we also have Mail Server (exim4)

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Christian Aichinger
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:12:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Hey. If we have a programmatic way of detecting this cases, why not just fold that into the shlibdeps program, and be done with it? As pointed out by Russ Allbery, shlibdeps wouldn't do. It would be possible to stuff it into

Re: Intent to hijack the dhelp package

2006-09-26 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Esteban Manchado Velázquez 2006-09-25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have even rewritten dhelp_parse, one of the main utilities, in Ruby [4] (mostly because it's a huge PITA finding and fixing bugs in a largely text processing program... written in C). It maintains compatibility with the

Re: new mplayer

2006-09-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 12:01:32AM +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote: I was wondering, what's so important about mplayer? With totem and vlc (and I anticipate there's something similar for KDE) you have everything you need. Except that mplayer is blazingly fast in comparison.

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 12:35:35PM +0200, Christian Aichinger wrote: AIUI the number of libraries using such tricks is minor, so it is unnerving that we can't use the dh_ method because of that. I don't see any solution though :-/ You could invent a mechanism to tag a library as never to

Re: Free flash player for your browser (Was: Running x86-64 debian inside i386 pbuilder on AMD64)

2006-09-26 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 01:10:55PM +0200]: [Tollef Fog Heen] Not having flash is a good, not a bad thing to me at least. :-) Now you can have flash support for your browser in unstable, at least, by installing the mozilla-plugin-gnash or konqueror-plugin-gnash

Re: non-free artwork in main

2006-09-26 Thread Norbert Preining
On Die, 26 Sep 2006, Bastian Venthur wrote: How can I make sure that my packages are really clean? Is there a best-practice solution for situations like this? I recommend the following way: - as soon as you know of a problem, fix it (new .dfsg orig.tar) - actively try to check - otherwise

Re: Free flash player for your browser

2006-09-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Gunnar Wolf] In my experience, it will even _require_ AMD64 or similar CPUs to display even trivial pages. Gnash is still a long way for being useful on most machines - it's just too heavy. OK. Do you have URLs to test pages showing this behaviour? I use the test ages listed in

Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Christian Aichinger wrote: As a start, I've written a script that searches for unnecessary dependencies and reports them. Results are available here: http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib More detailed information about the meaning of the results are available on the web page, the two most

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: KBM Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la KBM and .pc files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they KBM link in. Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass --as-needed flag to the ld command line? -- JID: [EMAIL

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Bastian Venthur
Mikhail Gusarov wrote: You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: KBM Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la KBM and .pc files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they KBM link in. Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass --as-needed flag to the ld

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Mikhail Gusarov wrote: You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: KBM Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la KBM and .pc files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they KBM link in. Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass --as-needed flag to the ld

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:41:33PM +0700, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: KBM Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la KBM and .pc files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they KBM link in. Will this problem disappear if end

Re: Free flash player for your browser (Was: Running x86-64 debian inside i386 pbuilder on AMD64)

2006-09-26 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 26/09/2006 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Tollef Fog Heen] Not having flash is a good, not a bad thing to me at least. :-) Now you can have flash support for your browser in unstable, at least, by installing the mozilla-plugin-gnash or konqueror-plugin-gnash package. The gnash package

Bug#389591: ITP: freeswitch -- Modular Media Switching Software Library and Soft-Switch Application.

2006-09-26 Thread Juan Manuel Coronado Zúñiga
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Juan Manuel Coronado Z. [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: freeswitch Version : 0.0.rev2838-1 Upstream Author : Anthony Minessale II [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.freeswitch.org/ * License : MPL 1.1 Programming

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:40:49PM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: One thing I noticed is that there are a lot of problems (in your terminology) caused by unneeded dependencies on libgcc1 (/lib/libgcc_s.so.1). From my quick investigation, it appears that the C++ and Fortran compilers (g++,

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:36:08AM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: In case it's of interest to anyone, I went through the checklib logs available on the web page for problems and found the libraries that are most often listed as bogus dependencies. Here are the top twenty offenders, listed

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Christian Aichinger
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:36:08AM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: In case it's of interest to anyone, I went through the checklib logs available on the web page for problems and found the libraries that are most often listed as bogus dependencies. This seriously rocks. Thanks. Actually that

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Christian Aichinger
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:41:33PM +0700, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass --as-needed flag to the ld command line? As described in the other mails, --as-needed is a hack, and can cause trouble. I've also thought of a debhelper script stipping out

Re: Free flash player for your browser

2006-09-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Jonas Meurer] unfortunately mozilla-plugin-gnash crashes for most flash pages. OK. If you got time, please add these test pages to the wiki. I have not been able to get the latest plugin to crash, so I am interested in these pages. www.sonnenvakuum.ch even killed my Xserver once. That

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Christian Aichinger wrote: On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:36:08AM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: In case it's of interest to anyone, I went through the checklib logs available on the web page for problems and found the libraries that are most often listed as bogus dependencies. This seriously

Bug#389598: ITP: xpbiff -- animated mail monitor on X with popup notification

2006-09-26 Thread Gernot Salzer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gernot Salzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: xpbiff Version : 1.27-11 Upstream Author : Kazuhiko Shutoh, [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.logic.at/staff/salzer/xpbiff * License : Debian compatible Programming

Re: Bug#389598: ITP: xpbiff -- animated mail monitor on X with popup notification

2006-09-26 Thread James Vega
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 07:29:05PM +0200, Gernot Salzer wrote: Copyright: * xpbiff - popup biff for X * * Author: Kazuhiko Shutoh, 1993 * * Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute without charge this software, Doesn't the 'without charge' bit violate DFSG #1? James -- GPG

Re: XS-X-Vcs-XXX field not (yet) announced

2006-09-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:40:54 +1000, Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: config-manager supports reading a config straight out of the VCS: http://arch.debian.org/arch/private/srivasta/archive-2003/dists--debian--0/flex/flex-2.5.31.config But that would involve checking out the

Re: Bug#389598: ITP: xpbiff -- animated mail monitor on X with popup notification

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Küster
James Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 07:29:05PM +0200, Gernot Salzer wrote: Copyright: * xpbiff - popup biff for X * * Author: Kazuhiko Shutoh, 1993 * * Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute without charge this software, Doesn't the 'without

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 9/26/06, Mikhail Gusarov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: KBM Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la KBM and .pc files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they KBM link in. Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass

Re: XS-X-Vcs-XXX field not (yet) announced

2006-09-26 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 14:16 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:40:54 +1000, Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: config-manager supports reading a config straight out of the VCS:

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Kevin B. McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060926 18:37]: Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la and .pc files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they link in. There is also AC_PATH_XTRA, which just adds all X stuff when only few may be needed. Also note that Xt

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 26 septembre 2006 à 09:36 -0700, Kevin B. McCarty a écrit : In case it's of interest to anyone, I went through the checklib logs available on the web page for problems and found the libraries that are most often listed as bogus dependencies. Here are the top twenty offenders, listed

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Crilly
On 09/26/06 02:25:21AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:12:58AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: What I would expect at least: Rename the task from Desktop to Desktop (Gnome) so more experienced users know what's coming up. Should we also have Mail Server (exim4) and

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Joey Hess
Gustavo Franco wrote: FYI, the three current desktop tasks (desktop, gnome-desktop, kde-desktop) won't fit entirely in the first CD. They fit in DVD1 though. My proposal is generate: Debian GNOME Desktop CD (installs by default desktop and gnome-desktop tasks) Debian KDE Desktop CD

Bug#389638: ITP: python-basemap -- Toolkit for matplotlib to plot data on map projections

2006-09-26 Thread Marco Presi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Presi [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: python-basemap Version : 0.9.2 Upstream Author : Jeff Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://matplotlib.sf.net * License : BSD Programming Lang: (C, Python) Description

Re: Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Filipus Klutiero
If you have opinions on what packages to use to complete a particular task, why are you using tasksel? If people who have opinions on what packages to use to complete a particular task shouldn't use tasksel, does this mean that people who think that GNOME should be used as a desktop

Re: Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Filipus Klutiero
What I would expect at least: Rename the task from Desktop to Desktop (Gnome) so more experienced users know what's coming up. I think it could be done in 'expert' mode, but not in the normal installation mode. The next step will be that somebody else will suggest Desktop (KDE) listed too

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Yves-Alexis Perez dijo [Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 05:45:14PM +0200]: Xfce is quite popular now, and I guess people would be happy if they could have a Xfce Debian CD if KDE Gnome people have one. I don't know how hard it is to add a specific CD from a task, but if it's not too hard, why not ?

Re: non-free artwork in main

2006-09-26 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Beware not to be confused between licensing issues and trademark ones. I think perhaps you mean confused between copyright licensing issues and trademark licensing ones. Both copyright and trademarks reserve rights to the holder, who can then grant

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:23:23PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass --as-needed flag to the ld command line? Some of it is also pkg-config's fault. For example, anyone using pkg-config with gtk+2 gets the following: # pkg-config

Bug#389648: ITP: sdlpango -- library for rendering text with Pango in SDL applications

2006-09-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: sdlpango Version : 0.1.2 Upstream Author : NAKAMURA Ken'ichi [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/sdlpango/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: C

Re: Free flash player for your browser

2006-09-26 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:21:24PM +0200]: [Gunnar Wolf] In my experience, it will even _require_ AMD64 or similar CPUs to display even trivial pages. Gnash is still a long way for being useful on most machines - it's just too heavy. OK. Do you have URLs to test

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Christian Aichinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I could maintain such a list for checklib, that wouldn't be problematic. Doing such a thing for debhelper sounds evil though, I surely don't want to be responsible if packages fail to build (or run correctly) because a library was removed that

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 12:35:35PM +0200, Christian Aichinger wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:12:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Hey. If we have a programmatic way of detecting this cases, why not just fold that into the shlibdeps program,

Bug#389660: ITP: silc-client -- Secure Internet Live Conferencing (SILC) client

2006-09-26 Thread Conall O'Brien
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Conall O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: silc-client Version : 1.0.3 Upstream Author : SILC Development Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.silcnet.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description

Re: Media players in Debian

2006-09-26 Thread Johan Kullstam
Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Montag 25 September 2006 14:27 schrieb Johan Kullstam: You can have mplayer installed without it necessarily showing up for popcon. Or you don't have it installed and don't participate in popcon. popcon does not show representative values but

Bug#389662: ITP: silc-server -- Secure Internet Live Conferencing (SILC) server

2006-09-26 Thread Conall O'Brien
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Conall O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: silc-server Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Author : SILC Development Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.silcnet.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description

Re: Fwd: Bug#387557: pcre3: Please ship pcre_internal.h

2006-09-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Personally I feel that the internal in the name really should have been a big enough clue, and I don't want to include a file that's not meant to be used just because some idiots have written software that needs it. I'm not even sure it will work; what is it that emboss wants it for? Dear

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Christian Perrier
It'll be possible use 'tasks=kde-desktop' in d-i etch rc1, as i've discussed previously with joeyh. Given the *very* frequent request like the one that triggerred this thread, I wonder whether a shortcut would be an option. tasks=kde-desktop is a bit rude to type (try it on a non US

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote: for file in $(wildcard debian/$(cdbs_curpkg)/usr/lib/*.la); do \ sed -i /dependency_libs/ s/'.*'/''/ $$file ; \ done To use this feature, if you use CDBS, simply: include

Accepted dpsyco 1.0.32 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread Ola Lundqvist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:48:48 +0200 Source: dpsyco Binary: dpsyco-samba dpsyco-ssh dpsyco dpsyco-cfengine dpsyco-devel dpsyco-sudo dpsyco-base dpsyco-mysql dpsyco-lib dpsyco-skel dpsyco-patch Architecture: source all Version: 1.0.32

Accepted ikiwiki 1.28 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread Joey Hess
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:08:17 -0400 Source: ikiwiki Binary: ikiwiki Architecture: source all Version: 1.28 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description:

Accepted libselinux 1.30.28-2 (source i386)

2006-09-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 01:11:35 -0500 Source: libselinux Binary: libselinux1-dev selinux-utils libselinux1 python-selinux Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.30.28-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL

Accepted tex-common 0.30 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Küster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:14:45 +0200 Source: tex-common Binary: tex-common Architecture: source all Version: 0.30 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Debian TeX maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Frank Küster [EMAIL

Accepted namazu2 2.0.16-7 (source i386 all)

2006-09-26 Thread NOKUBI Takatsugu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 05:38:31 + Source: namazu2 Binary: libnmz7-dev namazu2 namazu2-common libnmz7 namazu2-index-tools Architecture: source i386 all Version: 2.0.16-7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: NOKUBI Takatsugu

Accepted libpdf-api2-perl 0.55-1 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread eloy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:00:36 +0200 Source: libpdf-api2-perl Binary: libpdf-api2-perl Architecture: source all Version: 0.55-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Perl Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Krzysztof

Accepted aria2 0.8.0-1 (source i386)

2006-09-26 Thread Patrick Ruckstuhl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:05:19 -0700 Source: aria2 Binary: aria2 Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.8.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Patrick Ruckstuhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Patrick Ruckstuhl [EMAIL

Accepted libhtml-tableextract-perl 2.10-1 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread Florian Ernst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:54:38 +0200 Source: libhtml-tableextract-perl Binary: libhtml-tableextract-perl Architecture: source all Version: 2.10-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Ernst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted workman 1.3.4-24 (source i386)

2006-09-26 Thread Volker Ossenkopf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:30:00 +0100 Source: workman Binary: workman Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.3.4-24 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Volker Ossenkopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Volker Ossenkopf [EMAIL

Accepted simba 0.8.3-1 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread Radu Spineanu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:32:45 +0300 Source: simba Binary: websimba simba Architecture: source all Version: 0.8.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Radu Spineanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Radu Spineanu [EMAIL

Accepted simba 0.8-3.1 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:32:17 +0200 Source: simba Binary: websimba simba Architecture: source all Version: 0.8-3.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Radu Spineanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL

Accepted acidbase 1.2.5-1.1 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:59:07 +0200 Source: acidbase Binary: acidbase Architecture: source all Version: 1.2.5-1.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: David Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL

Accepted otrs2 2.0.4p01-14.1 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:15:46 +0200 Source: otrs2 Binary: otrs2 Architecture: source all Version: 2.0.4p01-14.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Torsten Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL

Accepted input-utils 0.0.20051128-1 (source i386)

2006-09-26 Thread Marcus Better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:41:35 +0200 Source: input-utils Binary: input-utils Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.0.20051128-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Marcus Better [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marcus Better

Accepted dpkg-www 2.52 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread Massimo Dal Zotto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:08:33 +0200 Source: dpkg-www Binary: dpkg-www Architecture: source all Version: 2.52 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Massimo Dal Zotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Massimo Dal Zotto [EMAIL

Accepted dspam 3.6.8-2.1 (source i386 all)

2006-09-26 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:18:33 +0200 Source: dspam Binary: libdspam7-dev libdspam7-drv-pgsql dspam libdspam7-drv-mysql dspam-webfrontend dspam-doc libdspam7-drv-db4 libdspam7 libdspam7-drv-sqlite3 Architecture: source i386 all Version:

Accepted postfix-policyd 1.80-2.1 (source i386)

2006-09-26 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:18:22 +0200 Source: postfix-policyd Binary: postfix-policyd Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.80-2.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Ondřej Surý [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Steinar H.

Accepted phpgacl 3.3.7-1.1 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:08:08 +0200 Source: phpgacl Binary: phpgacl Architecture: source all Version: 3.3.7-1.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: David Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL

Accepted webcalendar 1.0.4-1.1 (source all)

2006-09-26 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:51:42 +0200 Source: webcalendar Binary: webcalendar Architecture: source all Version: 1.0.4-1.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Tim Peeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Steinar H. Gunderson

Accepted xvmount 3.7-14 (source i386)

2006-09-26 Thread Volker Ossenkopf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:00:00 +0100 Source: xvmount Binary: xvmount Architecture: source i386 Version: 3.7-14 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Volker Ossenkopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Volker Ossenkopf [EMAIL

Accepted evolution-data-server 1.8.0-3 (source i386 all)

2006-09-26 Thread Heikki Henriksen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:55:24 +0200 Source: evolution-data-server Binary: libexchange-storage1.2-dev libcamel1.2-8 libedataserver1.2-7 libedataserver1.2-dev libedata-cal1.2-dev libecal1.2-dev libedata-cal1.2-6 evolution-data-server-dbg

Accepted file 4.17-4 (source i386)

2006-09-26 Thread Michael Piefel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:01:00 +0200 Source: file Binary: libmagic1 file libmagic-dev python-magic Architecture: source i386 Version: 4.17-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Michael Piefel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted openmpi 1.1-2.1 (source all sparc)

2006-09-26 Thread Clint Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:31:36 -0400 Source: openmpi Binary: openmpi-common openmpi-bin openmpi-dbg openmpi-libs0 openmpi-dev Architecture: source all sparc Version: 1.1-2.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Florian Ragwitz

Accepted zhcon 1:0.2.6-3 (source i386)

2006-09-26 Thread Yu Guanghui
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:05:15 +0800 Source: zhcon Binary: zhcon Architecture: source i386 Version: 1:0.2.6-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Yu Guanghui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Yu Guanghui [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted djvulibre 3.5.17-3 (source i386)

2006-09-26 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:27:09 +0100 Source: djvulibre Binary: libdjvulibre15 djvulibre-bin djvuserve libdjvulibre-dev djview djvulibre-plugin Architecture: source i386 Version: 3.5.17-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer:

Accepted sysvinit 2.86.ds1-25 (source i386 all)

2006-09-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:09:30 +0200 Source: sysvinit Binary: sysv-rc sysvinit-utils sysvinit initscripts Architecture: source i386 all Version: 2.86.ds1-25 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian sysvinit maintainers

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