debian-it/ubuntu-it miniconf @ software freedom day 2010

2010-05-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Cari tutti, ho incontrato di recente Paolo Sammicheli (in copia) che si occupa di organizzare la presenza della comunità Ubuntu-it al prossimo software freedom day, il 18 Settembre 2010 a Perugia. Una possibilità interessante che si è discussa assieme, è quella di avere un evento congiunto

Re: debian-it/ubuntu-it miniconf @ software freedom day 2010

2010-05-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 26, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote: La domanda per questa lista è quindi: ci interessa? Se si organizziamo Mi interesserebbe, ma chi è già stato a Perugia sa bene che bisogna fare un viaggio discretamente impegnativo per arrivarci in treno. Io quindi mi defilo, anche perché a

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, I'm still feeling uneasy about this whole bash-dash thing. We sacrified a lot of usability in the name of POSIX compliance (only a minority of users care) and a few seconds spared during boot (who cares? I only boot my laptop for kernel upgrades). Was is really the right path to follow?

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/05/10 at 23:10 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: On Tue, 25 May 2010 16:13:36 -0500 Raphael Geissert geiss...@debian.org wrote: A much more sane list is in the bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=45;filename=failed-dash.txt;att=1;bug=582952 124 source packages.

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 25 May 2010, Peter Samuelson wrote: And more false positives: possible bashism in ./configure line 44 ($BASH_SOMETHING): if test -z $BASH_VERSION$ZSH_VERSION \ (test X`print -r -- $as_echo` = X$as_echo) 2/dev/null; then possible bashism in ./configure line 367 (should be word

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Luk Claes
On 05/26/2010 08:05 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi, I'm still feeling uneasy about this whole bash-dash thing. We sacrified a lot of usability in the name of POSIX compliance (only a minority of users care) and a few seconds spared during boot (who cares? I only boot my laptop for kernel

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2010-05-25 at 19:35 -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote: ./configure is a *generated* script too, if dash cannot handle it, dash has to be crippled to let the other packages continue working. Unless autoconf itself has already been patched to fix all of these issues when regenerating

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2010-05-26 at 08:29 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: It is not about whether dash can handle it or not. The bashisms don't come from autoconf, the come from what the author's added to configure.in{,.in}. I beg to differ, at least some of them don't come from configure.*. One

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Steve Langasek said: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:30:49PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Michael Banck said: Seems worthwhile to change adduser how you suggest to me, is there a bug filed to this end? adduser has had bugs filed in

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-05-26 Thread Jacob Sparre Andersen
Ludovic Brenta wrote: Over the last two weeks I have been testing upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Sid and Squeeze in a chroot. The picture is not as pretty as it should be. In a nutshell, when you change /etc/apt/sources.list from lenny to squeeze (unstable, actually) and do aptitude

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Michael Meskes
This doesn't necessarily mean that we are drowned by bashisms, as some of those may already be fixed by Debian- provided packages or might affect unused code s/packages/patches/ Don't you think we should run the test *after* the patches got applied? Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael

extlinux (was: Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, please test grub2))

2010-05-26 Thread Bjørn Mork
Daniel Baumann dan...@debian.org writes: as of current git, you can now use EXTLINUX_UPDATE=false in /etc/default/extlinux to prevent having update-extlinux do anything. That's the single feature I misseded. Thanks. Although it would be even better if it was possible to include some fixed

Re: extlinux (was: Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, please test grub2))

2010-05-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bjørn Mork, le Wed 26 May 2010 10:45:49 +0200, a écrit : Just comparing http://git.kernel.org/?p=boot/syslinux/syslinux.git with http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/grub/trunk/grub/ should IMHO give more than enough information to choose extlinux over grub2 I don't understand what you mean here.

Re: Translations copyrights/licences

2010-05-26 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 06:41:09PM +0100, Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Helge Kreutzmann may or may not have written... Speaking both with my translator and my Debian Maintainer hat on, I can state the following: a) There are lots of drive by translators. Systems like launchpad

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:55:58PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: For example, almost all udebs are listed. Why? Because udebs execute busybox shell as /bin/sh, which happens to be fairly compatible with bash. The busybox /bin/sh is also a dash, but a different version than the dash package. Bastian

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 26/05/10 08:07, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 25/05/10 at 23:10 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: 124 source packages. Bad, but not as crazy as 1,540. (I've heard of off-by-one errors but off-by-one-order-of-magnitude is a stretch.) No. 124 is the number of packages that failed to build. Not the

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 26/05/10 at 11:55 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: On 26/05/10 08:07, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 25/05/10 at 23:10 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: 124 source packages. Bad, but not as crazy as 1,540. (I've heard of off-by-one errors but off-by-one-order-of-magnitude is a stretch.)

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 26/05/10 13:14, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 26/05/10 at 11:55 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Right. That's exactly why I suggested debdiffing the resulting binary packages from a new and an old dash. Are you volunteering? :-) No. I'm not volunteering on adding LINENO support back to

Bug#583207: RFA: fusecompress -- transparent filesystem compression using FUSE

2010-05-26 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request an adopter for the fusecompress package. Overall the packaging is in pretty good shape. There are a couple of bugs (forwarded upstream) that need some love. Upstream also has support for lzma in the git repo but I have not bothered backporting that. The

Bug#583209: ITP: haskell-smtpclient -- Simple Haskell SMTP client library

2010-05-26 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Owner: mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Package name: haskell-smtpclient Version: 1.0.2 Upstream Author: Stephen Blackheath URL: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/SMTPClient License: BSD Description: Simple Haskell SMTP

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 08:40:26AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Steve Langasek said: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:30:49PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Michael Banck said: Seems worthwhile to change adduser how you suggest to me, is

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
On mercredi 26 mai 2010 02:39:52 Raphael Geissert wrote: [SNIP] Yes, $BASH_SOMETHING is just used to make it easier to see that the following code (probably a bashism) is only executed after checking the shell is actually bash. That and the other FP are the most common ones, yet not that

Bug#583215: ITP: haskell-cairo -- Binding to the Cairo library

2010-05-26 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-cairo Version : 0.11.0 Upstream Author : Axel Simon, Duncan Coutts * URL : http://www.haskell.org/gtk2hs/ * License : BSD3 Programming Lang: Haskell

Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear everyone, 1/ Briefly, who am I My first Debian package was for the web hosting control panel (a web interface) that my company released in open source. I'm the main programmer of it. The first time I tried to have it enter

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, please test grub2)

2010-05-26 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 26 May 2010 00:23:04 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Baumann wrote: On 05/26/2010 03:36 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: ... That works for now; but if a package upgrade for extlinux is ever downloaded, I'm afraid that new versions of the hook scripts will be copied into these directories which are

Bug#583217: ITP: libconfig-mvp-reader-ini-perl -- Perl module providing a MVP config reader for .ini files

2010-05-26 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ansgar Burchardt ans...@43-1.org * Package name: libconfig-mvp-reader-ini-perl Version : 1.101450 Upstream Author : Ricardo Signes r...@cpan.org * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Config-MVP-Reader-INI/ * License :

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr wrote: What happens here is that, if you take a normal Debian system, then install postfix, then let's say amavis, they don't talk to each other. ... much spams. It is also totally unrealistic to say that it's up to the system administrator to configure

Re: Packaging Gzstream?

2010-05-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:58:05AM +0200, Adam Borowski a écrit : On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 04:00:56PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: A quick apt-file search indicates that at least two other packages (CCed) may be using the gzstream library, k3d and freecad. So it seems that it would

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-05-26 Thread Ludovic Brenta
Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote: Ludovic Brenta wrote: Over the last two weeks I have been testing upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Sid and Squeeze in a chroot. The picture is not as pretty as it should be. In a nutshell, when you change /etc/apt/sources.list from lenny to squeeze

Bug#583220: ITP: haskell-pango -- Binding to the Pango text rendering engine

2010-05-26 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-pango Version : 0.11.0 Upstream Author : Axel Simon, Duncan Coutts * URL : http://www.haskell.org/gtk2hs/ * License : LGPL-2.1+ Programming Lang:

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 15:58:51 Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: Why would you like to go another way with mail servers? Get maintainer support for such conf.d directories, maybe get upstream support for such conf.d mimics (sendmail most likely won't need it - some m4 magic and triggers will

Bug#583225: ITP: haskell-gtk -- Binding to the Gtk+ graphical user interface library

2010-05-26 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-gtk Version : 0.11.0 Upstream Author : Axel Simon, Duncan Coutts and many others * URL : http://www.haskell.org/gtk2hs/ * License : LGPL-2.1+

Bug#583228: ITP: haskell-gconf -- Binding to the GNOME configuration database system

2010-05-26 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-gconf Version : 0.11.0 Upstream Author : Duncan Coutts * URL : http://www.haskell.org/gtk2hs/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Haskell Description

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-26 Thread Raphael Geissert
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 03:00:58 Michael Meskes wrote: Don't you think we should run the test *after* the patches got applied? That's done if the package uses format 3.0 (quilt). Regards, -- Raphael Geissert - Debian Developer www.debian.org - get.debian.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working, I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends the running web-server to serve the dhelp content as well. I'm installing smb2www and it extends the running web-server to act as smb

Bug#583236: ITP: haskell-glade -- Binding to the glade library

2010-05-26 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-glade Version : 0.11.0 Upstream Author : Manuel M T Chakravarty * URL : http://www.haskell.org/gtk2hs/ * License : LGPL-2+ Programming Lang: Haskell

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 01:00:49PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: This one time, at band camp, Steve Langasek said: pam_umask requires both username == primary group name and uid == gid before it will assume UPG are in place when using its 'usergroups' option, I'd be interested to

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:36:53AM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote: Am Tue, 25 May 2010 22:47:51 +0200 schrieb Harald Braumann ha...@unheit.net: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:09:35PM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote: The path into your home directory is not restricted, just as the path others can take

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working, I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends the running web-server to serve the dhelp content as well. I'm

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:22:43PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: Hi, On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 01:00:49PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: This one time, at band camp, Steve Langasek said: pam_umask requires both username == primary group name and uid == gid before it will assume UPG are in

Bug#583257: ITP: haskell-gnomevfs -- Binding to the GNOME Virtual File System library

2010-05-26 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-gnomevfs Version : 0.11.0 Upstream Author : Duncan Coutts * URL : http://www.haskell.org/gtk2hs/ * License : LGPL-2.1+ Programming Lang: Haskell

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 06:42:50PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working, I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends the

Bug#583261: ITP: haskell-gstreamer -- Binding to the GStreamer open source multimedia framework

2010-05-26 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-gstreamer Version : 0.11.0 Upstream Author : Peter Gavin, Axel Simon * URL : http://www.haskell.org/gtk2hs/ * License : LGPL-2.1+ Programming Lang:

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/26/2010 11:42 AM, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working, I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends the running web-server to

Re: Bug#583257: ITP: haskell-gnomevfs -- Binding to the GNOME Virtual File System library

2010-05-26 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:07:22PM -0300, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-gnomevfs Version : 0.11.0 Upstream Author : Duncan Coutts * URL :

Re: Bug#583257: ITP: haskell-gnomevfs -- Binding to the GNOME Virtual File System library

2010-05-26 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Hi Brian. Excerpts from brian m. carlson's message of Qua Mai 26 14:53:48 -0300 2010: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:07:22PM -0300, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-gnomevfs

Re: Bug#583257: ITP: haskell-gnomevfs -- Binding to the GNOME Virtual File System library

2010-05-26 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, - brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.ath.cx wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:07:22PM -0300, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-gnomevfs Version

Re: extlinux

2010-05-26 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 05/26/2010 10:45 AM, Bjørn Mork wrote: That's the single feature I misseded. Thanks. welcome. Although it would be even better if it was possible to include some fixed part in it, while keeping most of it auto updated. I tested the extlinux package after reading about it yesterday, and

Bug#583272: ITP: haskell-gtkglext -- Binding to the GTK+ OpenGL Extension

2010-05-26 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva mar...@debian.org * Package name: haskell-gtkglext Version : 0.11.0 Upstream Author : Duncan Coutts * URL : http://www.haskell.org/gtk2hs/ * License : LGPL-2.1+ Programming Lang: Haskell

Re: Bug#583257: ITP: haskell-gnomevfs -- Binding to the GNOME Virtual File System library

2010-05-26 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 14:59:41 -0300, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote: Hi Brian. Excerpts from brian m. carlson's message of Qua Mai 26 14:53:48 -0300 2010: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:07:22PM -0300, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner:

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Andreas Hemel
Thomas: Sorry for the private mail, I hit the wrong reply button. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working, I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends the

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/26/2010 11:42 AM, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working, I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends the

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/26/2010 02:29 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: [snip] Anyway, postfix is NOT the only package that we shall consider modifying here. As per my original post, there's loads of other components that are to configure as well. The question is: is there a will to do this job by other maintainers. I

Re: Recent changes in dpkg

2010-05-26 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 05/24/2010 11:05 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hello, The versions 1.15.6 and 1.15.7 of dpkg introduced several important changes. Let's skim over them: [...] * dpkg-dev provides a new script called dpkg-buildflags that packages should use in debian/rules to retrieve the default value

Re: Recent changes in dpkg

2010-05-26 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-05-26, Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de wrote: * The plan concerning dpkg-source and the default source format has been clarified. In the long term, the default format will disappear and debian/source/format will become mandatory. The lintian tag

Re: Recent changes in dpkg

2010-05-26 Thread Iustin Pop
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:43:36PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 05/24/2010 11:05 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: * The plan concerning dpkg-source and the default source format has been clarified. In the long term, the default format will disappear and debian/source/format will

Re: Recent changes in dpkg

2010-05-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:43:36PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 05/24/2010 11:05 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hello, The versions 1.15.6 and 1.15.7 of dpkg introduced several important changes. Let's skim over them: [...] * dpkg-dev provides a new script called dpkg-buildflags that

Re: SRWare Iron: Chromium without the data-mining

2010-05-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Josselin Mouette | Le samedi 22 mai 2010 à 08:43 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : | | I don't see what you mean by iffy tabbed browsing, what's wrong with | | tabbed browsing in Epiphany? | | For me, at least two things: | | - C-TAB/C-S-TAB doesn't work for switching tabs, I have to

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] C. Gatzemeier | So yes, you can setup UPGs with UID!=GID, but then you'll also | have to set the umask manually to make it work (globally or in gecos or | ldap etc.). | | The UID==GID and username==groupname restriction of the | pam_umask's usergroups option ensures that the umask is only

Re: Recent changes in dpkg

2010-05-26 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 26 May 2010 22:59:25 +0200 Iustin Pop iu...@k1024.org wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:43:36PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 05/24/2010 11:05 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: * The plan concerning dpkg-source and the default source format has been clarified. In the long term, the

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Michael Banck | On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: | Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: | I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working, | I'm installing dhelp and ... magic, magic ... it extends the running | web-server to serve the dhelp

Re: Recent changes in dpkg

2010-05-26 Thread Iustin Pop
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:34:32PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2010 22:59:25 +0200 Iustin Pop iu...@k1024.org wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:43:36PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 05/24/2010 11:05 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: * The plan concerning dpkg-source and the

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread C. Gatzemeier
Am Wed, 26 May 2010 18:05:32 +0100 schrieb Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net: What, exactly, does comparing the UID and GID get you? I.e. what is is protecting you against? If you're using a system such as Debian, which has created a group by the same name for many years, you're in no danger

GID/UID algorithm? (Re: The story behind UPG and umask.)

2010-05-26 Thread C. Gatzemeier
Am Wed, 26 May 2010 18:05:32 +0100 schrieb Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net: How will adduser cope with group addition; does it skip UIDs until it finds an unused unique UID/GID pair? Maybe just skip taken GIDs by default? (every user has one, less gap more likely to be usable for a user

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread C. Gatzemeier
Am Wed, 26 May 2010 14:25:58 +0200 schrieb Michael Banck mba...@debian.org: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:36:53AM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote: Am Tue, 25 May 2010 22:47:51 +0200 schrieb Harald Braumann ha...@unheit.net: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:09:35PM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote: The

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread C. Gatzemeier
Wed, 26 May 2010 23:26:37 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen: Perhaps addgroup shouldn't use the same gid range as what we are using for users, to make this problem at least smaller, if not make it go away. Hm, that may be another option to allign UIDs and GIDs, you'd create split max. UID/GID amounts

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Roger Leigh said: How will adduser cope with group addition; does it skip UIDs until it finds an unused unique UID/GID pair? That certainly is the only approach that makes sense - it has the benefit of simplicity, if not elegance. Cheers, --

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Michael Banck said: In light of UPG, we might want to revisit the default here as well, maybe it makes sense to have your $HOME not world-readable be the default? That is already trivailly settable and not a debate likely to bring much new to the table on either

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Tollef Fog Heen said: The problem is when you then run addgroup foo, every user created after that will not be considered to be a UPG user. Perhaps addgroup shouldn't use the same gid range as what we are using for users, to make this problem at least smaller, if

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-26 Thread C. Gatzemeier
Am Tue, 25 May 2010 16:43:21 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org: I am not willing to diverge from upstream on this as this would mean admins coming from other systems may get an unpleasant surprise when they find that Debian gives a more relaxed umask than they were expecting in

Re: Recent changes in dpkg

2010-05-26 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 26. Mai 2010, Philipp Kern wrote: ETOPIC. You have to specify the format in the package. Nowhere they write that 1.0 will disappear. And they say in the long term too, so debian/source/format should be propagating naturally into most of the packages due to the lintian tag.

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
Roberto C. Sánchez robe...@connexer.com wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 06:42:50PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working, I'm

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, please test grub2)

2010-05-26 Thread Paul Vojta
In article enjn8-64s...@gated-at.bofh.it, Ferenc Wagner wf...@niif.hu wrote: Sorry, I don't trust in the future of LILO myself. If there's anything which only LILO can do, I recommend you start complaining on the Syslinux and the Grub mailing lists. I suppose it will be heard. Does either

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Jaldhar H . Vyas
Scott Kitterman debian at kitterman.com writes: Additionally, Ubuntu ships a distro specific binary called dovecot-postfix that implements part of this vision already. We'd love to see it in Debian if the dovecot maintainer is interested. The dovecot maintainer might be interested if

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
Jaldhar H. Vyas jald...@debian.org wrote: Scott Kitterman debian at kitterman.com writes: Additionally, Ubuntu ships a distro specific binary called dovecot-postfix that implements part of this vision already. We'd love to see it in Debian if the dovecot maintainer is interested.

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, please test grub2)

2010-05-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Vojta, le Thu 27 May 2010 00:47:14 +, a écrit : In article enjn8-64s...@gated-at.bofh.it, Ferenc Wagner wf...@niif.hu wrote: Sorry, I don't trust in the future of LILO myself. If there's anything which only LILO can do, I recommend you start complaining on the Syslinux and the

Meaning of the different “ format” fields and files.

2010-05-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all, I am getting confused by the different meanings of the Format fields and the format file in the Debian source packages and their accompanying files. [In the paragraphs below, I name the files according to Policy 3.8.4 §5] * In Debian changes files, Format is currently 1.8; I suppose

Accepted jfractionlab 0.84-2 (source all)

2010-05-26 Thread José L. Redrejo Rodríguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:52:09 +0200 Source: jfractionlab Binary: jfractionlab Architecture: source all Version: 0.84-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: José L. Redrejo Rodríguez jredr...@debian.org Changed-By: José L.

Accepted libdrm 2.4.20-3 (source amd64)

2010-05-26 Thread Julien Cristau
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:33:22 +0200 Source: libdrm Binary: libdrm-dev libdrm2 libdrm2-dbg libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1-dbg libdrm-nouveau1 libdrm-nouveau1-dbg libdrm-radeon1 libdrm-radeon1-dbg Architecture: source amd64 Version:

Accepted lm-sensors-3 1:3.1.2-5 (source all amd64)

2010-05-26 Thread Aurelien Jarno
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 11:15:17 +0200 Source: lm-sensors-3 Binary: lm-sensors libsensors4 libsensors4-dev fancontrol sensord Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 1:3.1.2-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Aurelien Jarno

Accepted hw-detect 1.78 (source i386 all)

2010-05-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 08:04:02 +0200 Source: hw-detect Binary: hw-detect ethdetect disk-detect driver-injection-disk-detect archdetect Architecture: source i386 all Version: 1.78 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian

Accepted kingston-update-notifier 1.0 (source amd64)

2010-05-26 Thread Sune Vuorela
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 18:00:56 +0200 Source: kingston-update-notifier Binary: update-notifier-kde Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.0 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Sune Vuorela s...@debian.org Changed-By: Sune

Accepted liblingua-en-inflect-phrase-perl 0.04-1 (source all)

2010-05-26 Thread Chris Butler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 22:43:40 +0100 Source: liblingua-en-inflect-phrase-perl Binary: liblingua-en-inflect-phrase-perl Architecture: source all Version: 0.04-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Perl Group

Accepted pdfgrep 1.0-1 (source i386)

2010-05-26 Thread Christoph Egger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 10:43:01 +0200 Source: pdfgrep Binary: pdfgrep Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org Changed-By: Christoph Egger

Accepted qt4-x11 4:4.7.0~beta1-1 (source all amd64)

2010-05-26 Thread Fathi Boudra
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 10:31:22 +0300 Source: qt4-x11 Binary: libqtcore4 libqt4-core libqtgui4 libqt4-gui libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-ibase libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-odbc

Accepted sciscipy 0.3.0-1 (source i386)

2010-05-26 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:06:28 +0100 Source: sciscipy Binary: python-sciscipy Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Sylvestre Ledru sylves...@debian.org Changed-By: Sylvestre Ledru

Accepted uimaj 2.3.0-1 (source all)

2010-05-26 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:22:45 +0200 Source: uimaj Binary: libuima-core-java libuima-vinci-java libuima-adapter-soap-java libuima-adapter-vinci-java libuima-cpe-java libuima-document-annotation-java libuima-tools-java uima-utils

Accepted gmic 1.3.5.1+dfsg-1 (source amd64)

2010-05-26 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:13:50 +0200 Source: gmic Binary: gmic gimp-gmic Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.3.5.1+dfsg-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bernd Zeimetz b...@debian.org Changed-By: Bernd Zeimetz

Accepted libbio-mage-perl 20030502.3-2 (source all)

2010-05-26 Thread Charles Plessy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:34:03 +0900 Source: libbio-mage-perl Binary: libbio-mage-perl Architecture: source all Version: 20030502.3-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Med Packaging Team

Accepted xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:0.0.16+git20100518+4b8f1a0-1 (source amd64)

2010-05-26 Thread Julien Cristau
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 13:28:28 +0200 Source: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Binary: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-dbg Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:0.0.16+git20100518+4b8f1a0-1 Distribution: experimental

Accepted jclic 0.2.1.0-1 (source all)

2010-05-26 Thread José L. Redrejo Rodríguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 11:06:04 +0200 Source: jclic Binary: jclic Architecture: source all Version: 0.2.1.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: José L. Redrejo Rodríguez jredr...@debian.org Changed-By: José L. Redrejo

Accepted r-base 2.11.1~20100525-1 (source i386 all)

2010-05-26 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 06:48:15 -0500 Source: r-base Binary: r-base r-base-core r-base-dev r-mathlib r-base-html r-doc-pdf r-doc-html r-doc-info r-recommended r-base-core-dbg Architecture: source i386 all Version: 2.11.1~20100525-1

Accepted q4wine 0.118-3 (source amd64)

2010-05-26 Thread Boris Pek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:16:23 +0400 Source: q4wine Binary: q4wine Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.118-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Boris Pek tehnic...@mail.ru Changed-By: Boris Pek tehnic...@mail.ru

Accepted xfstt 1.7-8 (source amd64)

2010-05-26 Thread Guillem Jover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:08:40 +0200 Source: xfstt Binary: xfstt Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.7-8 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org Changed-By: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org

Accepted grass 6.4.0~rc6+42329-1 (source all i386)

2010-05-26 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 16:47:55 +0200 Source: grass Binary: grass grass-doc grass-dev Architecture: source all i386 Version: 6.4.0~rc6+42329-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian GIS Project

Accepted aspell-pl 20100526-1 (source all)

2010-05-26 Thread eloy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:42:18 +0200 Source: aspell-pl Binary: aspell-pl Architecture: source all Version: 20100526-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Krzysztof Krzyżaniak (eloy) e...@debian.org Changed-By: Krzysztof

Accepted ardour 1:2.8.7-1 (source amd64)

2010-05-26 Thread Adrian Knoth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:58:32 +0200 Source: ardour Binary: ardour ardour-altivec ardour-i686 Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:2.8.7-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers

Accepted bootcd 3.20 (source all)

2010-05-26 Thread Bernd Schumacher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:21:07 +0200 Source: bootcd Binary: bootcd bootcd-i386 bootcd-hppa bootcd-ia64 bootcd-mkinitramfs bootcd-backup Architecture: source all Version: 3.20 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bernd

Accepted exactimage 0.8.1-1 (source i386 all)

2010-05-26 Thread Jakub Wilk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 01:28:14 +0200 Source: exactimage Binary: exactimage exactimage-dbg libexactimage-perl exactimage-perl php5-exactimage python-exactimage Architecture: source i386 all Version: 0.8.1-1 Distribution: unstable

Accepted gjs 0.7-1 (source amd64)

2010-05-26 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:55:19 -0300 Source: gjs Binary: gjs libgjs0a libgjs-dev Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.7-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Gustavo Noronha Silva gustavo.noro...@collabora.co.uk Changed-By:

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