On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 08:38:42PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 03/01/2011 06:19 AM, ximalaya wrote:
Hi all,
[snip]
BTW, I ever tried on Redhat Linux 9, no such problem.
This is the interesting part. Is RH keeping their patches, or are
upstream and other distros just not determining
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 08:30:24PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
time the package is upgraded. i mean, it's not even that great for
maintainer scripts, as evidenced by the total inconsistency for how
developers are managing enabling/disabling of their services.
Isn't that handled by DH
hi zack,
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 09:41:18AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
without telling which those several tools are. According to this
thread, the recommended tool among them is mv (in the hope that the
sysadm knows by heart that they have to run insserv afterwards).
there's a few
On 02/03/11 04:24, Scott Kitterman wrote:
It seems to me not worth a mass bug filing. This doesn't seem like something
that would affect user's systems. Is there a rationale for imposing this
ordering other than puiparts can't deal with it?
If you have non-free enabled and install a
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On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort po...@debian.org wrote:
If you have non-free enabled and install a package from main, it should
install
the dependencies from main. So you should have e.g. rar | rar-nonfree
instead
of the other way round.
non-free stuff shouldn't be
Hi,
On Mittwoch, 2. März 2011, Paul Wise wrote:
non-free stuff shouldn't be in main depends at all IMO, even as an
alternative.
I (somewhat) agree.
And I think non-existing stuff is worse than non-free...
But, I can see how it can be useful (users, derivatives), thus I think it just
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 11:51:01AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Mittwoch, 2. März 2011, Paul Wise wrote:
non-free stuff shouldn't be in main depends at all IMO, even as an
alternative.
I (somewhat) agree.
And I think non-existing stuff is worse than non-free...
But, I can
On 02/03/11 12:45, Paul Wise wrote:
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfortpo...@debian.org wrote:
If you have non-free enabled and install a package from main, it should install
the dependencies from main. So you should have e.g. rar | rar-nonfree instead
of the other way
(Cross-posting to d-d-games for discussion of the Quake III-based games)
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 at 15:20:52 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Speaking as someone who has a few of the DONT_NOT_DISABLE_SERVICE
variables in some of my packages
Speaking as another implementor of similar variables: I added
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 10.43:44 Ana Guerrero wrote:
Debian is applying as mentoring organization to the Google Summer of Code
(GSoC) this year
Dealing with the init scripts / service enable / disable mess. See current
d-devel discussion.
As much a discussion / social skills project as a
On 03/02/2011 01:57 PM, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 10.43:44 Ana Guerrero wrote:
Debian is applying as mentoring organization to the Google Summer of Code
(GSoC) this year
Dealing with the init scripts / service enable / disable mess. See current
d-devel
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de (02/03/2011):
What about a project which prepares a migration to
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd ?
yay for portability.
KiBi.
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Hi!
As someone who is also annoyed by the default file startup hack (which
is IMHO an abuse because why have a S rc link then?), let me also throw
in my 0.02 EUR.
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen s...@debian.org writes:
The short term issue is figuring out if the current practice of
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 12:37:25PM +, Simon McVittie wrote [edited]:
(Cross-posting to d-d-games for discussion of the Quake III-based games)
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 at 15:20:52 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Speaking as someone who has a few of the DONT_NOT_DISABLE_SERVICE
variables in some
[ Bcc to -dpkg for info ]
Hello,
since multiarch support in dpkg is on good track, it's about time to
identify what will break when people start using multiarch packages...
I have started filing a few bugs for some packages where I knew of
the problems but I need your help to identify other
On 03/02/11 05:24, Raphael Geissert wrote:
Interesting that everyone talks about update-rc.d but it appears that nobody
has read its documentation:
A common system administration error is to delete the links with
the thought that this will disable the service, i.e., that this will
prevent
On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 04:53:46 am Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
On 02/03/11 04:24, Scott Kitterman wrote:
It seems to me not worth a mass bug filing. This doesn't seem like
something that would affect user's systems. Is there a rationale for
imposing this ordering other than
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 09:41:00AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Why? If the user has made the choice to use non-free and the maintainer
concludes that's a more technically capable solution for users that choose to
use it, why should the project raise barriers to that choice?
Because
On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:41:00 -0500, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote:
On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 04:53:46 am Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
If you have non-free enabled and install a package from main, it should
install the dependencies from main. So you should have e.g. rar |
On 02/03/11 14:41, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 04:53:46 am Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
On 02/03/11 04:24, Scott Kitterman wrote:
It seems to me not worth a mass bug filing. This doesn't seem like
something that would affect user's systems. Is there a rationale for
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 09:58:02AM -0500, Mike O'Connor wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:41:00 -0500, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com
wrote:
On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 04:53:46 am Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
If you have non-free enabled and install a package from main, it should
Hi,
I have recently been looking into where dpkg spends most of its time
when installing very many small packages, and came up with the following
idea to speed it up.
- Most of the time is spent writing files very carefully, a lot of them
in /var/lib/dpkg/updates.
- We can avoid this by
Le mercredi 02 mars 2011 à 14:19 +0100, Cyril Brulebois a écrit :
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de (02/03/2011):
What about a project which prepares a migration to
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd ?
yay for portability.
What about a project to port systemd to kfreebsd ? :)
--
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Programming Lang: PHP
hi,
More and more packages depend on avahi aka zeroconf. I have found some
information on http://wiki.debian.org/ZeroConf
Because I work in a untrusted work place and home network (public networks,
wifi...) I whish to purge zeroconf functionnality.
however a lot of package depends (or
Hi,
On Thursday 03,March,2011 12:02 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote:
[...]
- Instead, we move all packages that are to be unpacked into
half-installed / reinstreq before touching the first one, and put a
big sync() right before carefully writing /var/lib/dpkg/status.
Could we somehow avoid
Package: wnpp
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Owner: Євгеній Мещеряков eu...@debian.org
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Programming Lang: Python
Simon McVittie wrote:
The other good option I've seen for packages where the init script isn't
necessarily the preferred way to run the server is to split the package,
so the server binary and supporting files are in one binary package (e.g.
dnsmasq-base, git-daemon, mysql-server-core-5.1) and
]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
| Actually, we usually use it to *remove* bogus rpath, but hey, it would
| be a poor tool if it couldn't be used to add a proper rpath :)
It doesn't know how to add an rpath, just change or remove one. Patches
gladly accepted. :-)
--
Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is
Chow Loong Jin wrote the following on 02.03.2011 18:51
Hi,
On Thursday 03,March,2011 12:02 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote:
[...]
- Instead, we move all packages that are to be unpacked into
half-installed / reinstreq before touching the first one, and put a
big sync() right before carefully
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:42:28PM +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
That means:
# mv /etc/rc2.d/S??apache2 /etc/rc2.d/K00apache2
# insserv # this bit is not documented, it seems
Are you serious? How's that a sysadmin interface? Yes, everything can be
done using sh/cp/mv/vi, but this is
On 2011-03-02 20:54 +0100, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:42:28PM +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
Also, while we're at update-rc.d's documentation, that particular
manpage says:
Example of disabling a service:
update-rc.d -f foobar remove
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 01:51:35AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
Hi,
On Thursday 03,March,2011 12:02 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote:
[...]
- Instead, we move all packages that are to be unpacked into
half-installed / reinstreq before touching the first one, and put a
big sync() right
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 08:13:06PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 01:51:35AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
Hi,
On Thursday 03,March,2011 12:02 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote:
[...]
- Instead, we move all packages that are to be unpacked into
half-installed /
Hi,
I won't comment on the possible insecurity of avahi-daemon, but...
On 2011-03-02, Bastien ROUCARIES roucaries.bast...@gmail.com wrote:
More and more packages depend on avahi aka zeroconf. I have found some
information on http://wiki.debian.org/ZeroConf
Because I work in a untrusted work
Le mercredi 02 mars 2011 à 18:25 +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES a écrit :
And more specifically from an administrator point of view does avahi
could library could be made purgeable and no more than suggest
dependencies (I am willing to fill a mass bug report because purging
avahi will purge gnome
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 09:11:40PM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
The other thing where it's not clear to me is padevchooser. Not sure it's
really desperatly needed there.
For padevchooser it probably makes sense, as network sound sink/sources are
certainly a case you may want to use pulseaudio
Bastien ROUCARIES roucaries.bast...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Because I work in a untrusted work place and home network (public
networks, wifi...) I whish to purge zeroconf functionnality.
Looks like you want a firewall. Just sayin'.
JB.
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On 02/03/2011 16:13, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
If the user has rar-nonfree installed, that would be fine, as the dependency
would be satisfied. If he doesn't have it, then installing a package from main
shouldn't install packages outside main, so we should prefer packages in main
over
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 23:09 +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
Bastien ROUCARIES roucaries.bast...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Because I work in a untrusted work place and home network (public
networks, wifi...) I whish to purge zeroconf functionnality.
Looks like you want a firewall. Just sayin'.
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Am Mi den 2. Mär 2011 um 23:09 schrieb Julien BLACHE:
Because I work in a untrusted work place and home network (public
networks, wifi...) I whish to purge zeroconf functionnality.
Looks like you want a firewall. Just sayin'.
Ehem, no.
A
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 08:13:06PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
Btrfs is quite simply awful in chroots at present, and it seems
--force-unsafe-io doesn't really seem to help massively either.
It's dog slow--it's quicker to untar a chroot onto ext3 than to
bother with Btrfs.
Because unsafe-io
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Am Mi den 2. Mär 2011 um 18:25 schrieb Bastien ROUCARIES:
More and more packages depend on avahi aka zeroconf. I have found some
information on http://wiki.debian.org/ZeroConf
Because I work in a untrusted work place and home network (public
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 10:24:36PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 02 mars 2011 à 18:25 +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES a écrit :
And more specifically from an administrator point of view does avahi
could library could be made purgeable and no more than suggest
dependencies (I am
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
Currently, our packaged services start automatically, unless explicitly
disabled in /etc/default/service, or by missing configuration.
Having daemons started automatically at installation time is a very
nice feature of Debian IMNHO. And by comparison it really
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
What about a project to port systemd to kfreebsd ? :)
That is unlikely to be useful, upstream has explicitly said they are
targeting Linux only.
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(Sorry for the duplicate, Bob; forgot to send to list first time.)
Quoth Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com, on 2011-03-02 17:00:19 -0700:
Having daemons started automatically at installation time is a very
nice feature of Debian IMNHO.
Is there any harder data on which behavior various proportions or
Paul Wise wrote:
That is unlikely to be useful, upstream has explicitly said they are
targeting Linux only.
More precisely[1]:
Will this run on [insert non-Linux OS here]?
Unlikely. As pointed out, systemd uses many Linux specific
APIs […] That said, git supports
On Thursday 03,March,2011 06:56 AM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
Am Mi den 2. Mär 2011 um 23:09 schrieb Julien BLACHE:
Because I work in a untrusted work place and home network (public
networks, wifi...) I whish to purge zeroconf functionnality.
Looks like you want a firewall. Just sayin'.
Ehem,
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On Do, 03 Mär 2011, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 10:24:36PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
As Philipp pointed out, only gnome depends on it, and that’s not
gnome-desktop-environment. You can use the latter if you want only the
official GNOME desktop.
]] Drake Wilson
| (Sorry for the duplicate, Bob; forgot to send to list first time.)
|
| Quoth Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com, on 2011-03-02 17:00:19 -0700:
| Having daemons started automatically at installation time is a very
| nice feature of Debian IMNHO.
|
| Is there any harder data on which
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 17.02:11 Marius Vollmer wrote:
- Instead, we move all packages that are to be unpacked into
half-installed / reinstreq before touching the first one, and put a
big sync() right before carefully writing /var/lib/dpkg/status.
You don't want to do this. While
Yodel again!
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 17.02:11 Marius Vollmer wrote:
It shows a speed up between factor six and two in our environment (ext4
on a slowish flash drive) . I am not sure whether messing with the
fundamentals of dpkg is worth a factor of two in performance
To not be all
On Thursday 03,March,2011 02:45 PM, Marius Vollmer wrote:
ext Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com writes:
Could we somehow avoid using sync()? sync() syncs all mounted filesystems,
which
isn't exactly very friendly when you have a few slow-syncing filesystems like
btrfs (or even NFS)
Hi!
Some things usually spin in my head for days and I come up with an idea
that looks sane at first sight. This might be such a moment, and I
wonder wether there might be something that I overlooked here:
* Gerfried Fuchs rho...@deb.at [2011-03-02 14:47:22 CET]:
Actually I explicitly
...
Before someone starts to nitpick it and distract from the real content:
* Gerfried Fuchs rho...@deb.at [2011-03-03 07:58:59 CET]:
#v+
# only on new install
if [ $1 = configure ] [ x$2 = x ]; then
update-rc.d foo defaults /dev/null
update-rc.d foo disable
fi
#v-
ext Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com writes:
I remember seeing there being some list of files to be fsynced in one of the
older dpkgs. It's probably that which led to the ext4 slowdown [...]
Hmm, performance is the ultimate reason for doing all this, but right
now, I am mostly interested in
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