Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 08:00 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : I think it is wrong, based on the fact expressed in these threads that NetworkManager can, by default during upgrade, bring down the network connection. This argument has been rehashed again and again, without ever confronting it to a

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 13 avril 2011 à 11:39 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit : My first (and last) contact with NM was not a good one. This is another misconception about Network-Manager: since version 0.6 (the first one with which people have been in contact to) was very badly designed, the current version

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Russell Coker
Maybe if there was a version number greater than 0.8 people might be more willing to try network manager again. A rewrite seems like a good reason to have version 1.0 or maybe 2.0. The idea of basing version numbers on technical issues only was given up a long time ago. -- My blog

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On pe, 2011-04-15 at 08:27 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 13 avril 2011 à 11:39 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit : My first (and last) contact with NM was not a good one. This is another misconception about Network-Manager: since version 0.6 (the first one with which people have

Bug#622750: Acknowledgement (general: shutdown -r does not reboot)

2011-04-15 Thread Christoph Pleger
Hello, the reason for the problem was that when upgrading from lenny to squeeze, some things have gone wrong with the runlevel links in /etc/rc?.d so that they were not called in a correct order. I deleted all runlevel links and recreated them by 'dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc'; now rebooting works

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 04/13/2011 08:53 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: Or in other words, if a server user does an attended install via d-i, doesn't trigger expert mode and accepts the defaults for most questions, is it wrong if they end up with NetworkManager? Yes. That is what we have things like the 'Desktop' task

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:27:03AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Since it was completely redesigned, almost from scratch, this doesn’t apply for 0.8. Its system daemon is able to manage connections without anyone logged on, and with a number of features that makes ifupdown look like a baby toy.

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 09:27:23AM -0400, Marvin Renich wrote: * Luca Capello l...@pca.it [110414 06:43]: Hi there! Disclaimer: this is my last post on this matter (i.e. the meaning of RAMLOCK), it seems there is a problem with myself or my understanding. Either I do not read `man

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 05:06:00PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: Maybe if there was a version number greater than 0.8 people might be more willing to try network manager again. A rewrite seems like a good reason to have version 1.0 or maybe 2.0. I appreciate your point, but this is

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:22:53AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 08:00 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : I think it is wrong, based on the fact expressed in these threads that NetworkManager can, by default during upgrade, bring down the network connection. This

Ieva un Renate aicina tevi un tavus biedrus!

2011-04-15 Thread Gunta
Mūsu pašu Rīgā durvis ir vēris solīds un tieši Tev domāts kungu atpūtas klubs - Eden! Tavām pikantajām izklaidēm ir pieejami seši, speciāli iekārtoti, stāvi ! Atpūtas kompleksa otrajā stāvā ir iespējams izbaudīt eksotisku masāžu, lielisku un seksīgu meiteiņu izpildījumā, citā baudu tempļa

Resolvconf trigger? (Re: #567059)

2011-04-15 Thread Thomas Hood
Hi. I am considering introducing a trigger to the resolvconf package in order to solve the problem (discussed in #567059) where resolvconf is installed on a system where a caching nameserver is already running. The problem is that, on installation, resolvconf takes control of /etc/resolv.conf

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 08:19:38PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:29:31AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:22:33PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:20:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:49:15PM

/run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:20:45PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:32:51PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Julien Cristau | On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 16:20:10 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: | | Given that Fedora are

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Philip Hands
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:53:02 +0100, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: ... Having said all of the above, and the thread being where it is now, I have to admit I can't remember what the value proposition was in the first place. Time to re-read... So, you just failed to provide any justification

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:55:20PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 08:19:38PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I think this should be fixed now; could you possibly try again (you'll need a clean vserver environment that hasn't been upgraded before). The updated packages are at

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-15 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
New text, which is hopefully clear enough: RAMLOCK  Make  /run/lock/ available as a ram file system (tmpfs).  Set to  'yes' to enable, to 'no' to disable (defaults to yes).  The size  of the tmpfs can be controlled using TMPFS_SIZE and LOCK_SIZE in  /etc/default/tmpfs.  Note  that  

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:58:19PM +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: New text, which is hopefully clear enough: RAMLOCK  Make  /run/lock/ available as a ram file system (tmpfs).  Set to  'yes' to enable, to 'no' to disable (defaults to yes).  The size  of the tmpfs can be controlled

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread sean finney
Hi, On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:03:40AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: For the record, this was (at least) bugs #432322 and #439917, and I'm extremely pleased that the issues have been resolved. Well done and thank you to all involved. AIUI they weren't resolved, but the scope of the problem was

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-15 Thread sean finney
(throttled the conversation back a bit, hoping that someone from the release team might take the time to chime in) On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 02:21:38PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: In the way I had thought of things, rolling == testing. That's to say that nextstable branches off the main

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Bjørn Mork
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Since it was completely redesigned, almost from scratch, this doesn’t apply for 0.8. Its system daemon is able to manage connections without anyone logged on, and with a number of features that makes ifupdown look like a baby toy. So Network-Manager

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:03:40AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:22:53AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: This argument has been rehashed again and again, without ever confronting it to a reality check. Since this bug has been fixed several months ago, can we move on

Bug#622868: ITP: apt-clone -- Script to create state bundles

2011-04-15 Thread Alessio Treglia
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org * Package name: apt-clone Version : 0.1.6 Upstream Author : Michael Vogt m...@debian.org * URL : https://launchpad.net/apt-clone * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: Python

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no writes: So Network-Manager has finally gained basic features like the ability to set a lower than default MTU? How about bridging? VLANs? Unnumbered interfaces? DHCPv6-PD? Disabling IPv6 SLAAC on a specific interface? Multiple uplinks? Multiple routing tables?

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:07:37PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/run/sysvinit_2.88dsf-13.3.dsc http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/run/sysvinit_2.88dsf-13.3.patch http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/run/sysvinit_2.88dsf-13.3_amd64.changes

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 02:28:35PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:07:37PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/run/sysvinit_2.88dsf-13.3.dsc Changes since last time: - vserver environments should now upgrade correctly (autodetect and

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi [2011-04-15 14:18]: ip rule show | grep -Ev '^(0|32766|32767):|iif lo' \ | while read PRIO NATRULE; do ip rule del prio ${PRIO%%:*} $( echo $NATRULE | sed 's|all|0/0|' ) done iface ethX inet static address x.x.x.x netmask

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-15 Thread Edward Allcutt
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: This I really don't get. There was no error reported, and we're using this logic: if [ ! -L /var/run ] [ -d /var/run ]; then echo guest environment detected: Migrating /var/run to /run ( # Remove /run first, so all contents get moved rm -fr

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Bjørn Mork
Martin Wuertele m...@debian.org writes: * Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi [2011-04-15 14:18]: ip rule show | grep -Ev '^(0|32766|32767):|iif lo' \ | while read PRIO NATRULE; do ip rule del prio ${PRIO%%:*} $( echo $NATRULE | sed 's|all|0/0|' ) done iface ethX inet static

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi, On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 02:01:06PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Since it was completely redesigned, almost from scratch, this doesn’t apply for 0.8. Its system daemon is able to manage connections without anyone logged on, and with a number of

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Stephan Seitz wrote: NM may be good for laptops, so put it in the laptop task and leave the rest alone in the default installation. And keep the installer unable to do things as widespread as WPA? And keep it unable to generate a proper configuration for laptops? No thanks. -- Joss -- To

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Fernando Lemos
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Patrick Schoenfeld schoenf...@debian.org wrote: I've always believed that peoply chose NM for simplicity.  And I can understand that. It's simple because it doesn't support anything complex, including common VPN setups. ifupdown does not support any VPN setup

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Philip Hands wrote: On the other hand, nobody from the Isn't N-M great camp seems willing to explain why I'd want it in preference to ifupdown on a server, particularly a co-lo remotely admined server. This was stated in the original proposal: ifupdown is not event-based and does not integrate

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no writes: How about bridging? VLANs? Unnumbered interfaces? DHCPv6-PD? Disabling IPv6 SLAAC on a specific interface? Multiple uplinks? Multiple routing tables? Creating tap interfaces connected to virtual swiches? Different types of

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Björn Mork wrote: Martin Wuertele m...@debian.org writes: up ip rule add downip rule del The power of the pre-up/up/down/post-down scripting is tremendous. So is that of NM dispatcher scripts. What is your gripe, again? -- Joss -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 01:38:34PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: This I really don't get. There was no error reported, and we're using this logic: if [ ! -L /var/run ] [ -d /var/run ]; then echo guest environment detected: Migrating /var/run to

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Bjørn Mork
Patrick Schoenfeld schoenf...@debian.org writes: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 02:01:06PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Since it was completely redesigned, almost from scratch, this doesn’t apply for 0.8. Its system daemon is able to manage connections without

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 02:39:40PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 02:28:35PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:07:37PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/run/sysvinit_2.88dsf-13.3.dsc Changes since last time: -

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Björn Mork wrote: - without reliance on external commands (such as the ip command or shell scripts) for basic stuff Which is bad because of what? Using the ip command or shell scripts is an important feature to me. I don't want grep, cp, ls etc unified to a single file handling program

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Bjørn Mork
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Björn Mork wrote: Martin Wuertele m...@debian.org writes: up ip rule add downip rule del The power of the pre-up/up/down/post-down scripting is tremendous. So is that of NM dispatcher scripts. And this is documented

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes: I'd be interested in seeing real-life ifupdown configurations that handle these. Here's an example from one of my servers that handles _some_ of them. (Addresses rewritten to rfc3330 space, and no explicit IPv6 config): * Two bonded ethernet

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-15 Thread Edward Allcutt
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 01:38:34PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: Your assumption is correct in that this is a fallback. This is the special case for chroots, also co-opted for vservers, which don't boot per se, and don't run the rcS scripts. The

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bastien ROUCARIES roucaries.bast...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:32:42 +0100 Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:38:03PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Following the discussion

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:44:08AM +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:32:42 +0100 Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:38:03PM

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell johnandsa...@cox.net writes: I'm reading (can't spend allot of time though, I'll try) initscripts_2.88dsf-13.3_amd64.deb sysvinit_2.88dsf-13.3.dsc I'm thinking (I'm not sure) that Bastien is working on this. He'd mentioned issues between

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Kris Deugau
Josselin Mouette wrote: For a machine with an IP address assigned by DHCP, which is a very common setup even on servers, ... I have to ask: What sort of overall network setup would you be using, where server IP addresses are assigned by DHCP? I'm having trouble imagining any remotely

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Fernando Lemos fernando...@gmail.com [110415 15:26]: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Patrick Schoenfeld schoenf...@debian.org wrote: I've always believed that peoply chose NM for simplicity.  And I can understand that. It's simple because it doesn't support anything complex, including

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Edward Allcutt edw...@allcutt.me.uk writes: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: This I really don't get. There was no error reported, and we're using this logic: if [ ! -L /var/run ] [ -d /var/run ]; then echo guest environment detected: Migrating /var/run to /run ( # Remove

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 04:41:56PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: If it wasn't already clear, having /tmp as a tmpfs is a /configurable option/, and it is /not/ the default (except when root is read-only (ro) in fstab). I hope you check the

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-15 Thread Edward Allcutt
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: For new installs, where the default /etc/default/rcS files does set RAMTMP=yes by default, the fstab file will not yet contain any user-specific mounts. If they do want to manuall mount something on /tmp, then they simply set RAMTMP=no. Hopefully you

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 03:26:59PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 01:38:34PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: Your assumption is correct in that this is a fallback. This is the special case for chroots, also co-opted for vservers,

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Kris Deugau | Josselin Mouette wrote: | For a machine with an IP address assigned by DHCP, which is a very common | setup even on servers, | | ... I have to ask: What sort of overall network setup would you be | using, where server IP addresses are assigned by DHCP? Any kind of

Intent to hijack haveged

2011-04-15 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
Hi, haveged has 2 RC bugs opened since August 2010. Despite solutions and patches provided by users and other developers to fix them many months ago, there is still no actions or comments by the current maintainer. There is also 3 other open bugs and a new upstream release has also been made

Re: Intent to hijack haveged

2011-04-15 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hi, a hijack and bringing haveged into a usable shape would be very appreciated! Cheers, Bernd On 04/15/2011 07:59 PM, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: Hi, haveged has 2 RC bugs opened since August 2010. Despite solutions and patches provided by users and other developers to fix them many months

Re: CV - IT Technical Support / Admin Assistant / Any Suitable post

2011-04-15 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:59:03AM +0300, shebeer t.h wrote: I am sending herewith my CV for the post of IT Technical Support / Admin Assistant / Any Suitable post I'm sorry to tell you that this is not an appropriate place to send your CV. Moreover, it's extremely discourteous to send a

Dana Hibah khusus

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Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:03:40 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:22:53AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 08:00 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : I think it is wrong, based on the fact expressed in these threads that NetworkManager can, by default during

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-15 Thread Fernando Lemos
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: Could those thread participants who have gripes from their last NM experience many years ago please confirm that their gripes still apply before continuing with the discussion? felipe@pcfelipe:supercollider% apt-cache

Bug#622922: ITP: apparmor -- AppArmor Mandatory Access Control system userspace tools

2011-04-15 Thread Kees Cook
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kees Cook k...@debian.org * Package name: apparmor Version : 2.6.1 Upstream Author : AppArmor project members * URL : http://apparmor.net/ * License : GPL-2, LGPL-2 Programming Lang: C, C++, Perl, Python Description

Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-15 Thread Carl Fürstenberg
Currently section 8.3 in the policy specifies that The static library (libraryname.a) is usually provided in addition to the shared version, i.e. it doesn't provides any guidelines if a development package should or shouldn't provide a static library at all. Also it's a question whenever packages

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: { find var/run/ ! -type d -print0; \ find var/lock/ ! -type d -print0; } | xargs -0r $_CHROOT_SH rm I'm afraid this will need fixing in util-vserver(?) though. We can't work around this in initscripts postinst, I'm afraid, since it worked

Results for Debian Project Leader 2011 Election

2011-04-15 Thread devotee
Greetings, This message is an automated, unofficial publication of vote results. Official results shall follow, sent in by the vote taker, namely Debian Project Secretary This email is just a convenience for the impatient. I remain, gentle folks, Your humble servant,

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:59:01PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: { find var/run/ ! -type d -print0; \ find var/lock/ ! -type d -print0; } | xargs -0r $_CHROOT_SH rm I'm afraid this will need fixing in util-vserver(?) though. We

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:59:01PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: { find var/run/ ! -type d -print0; \ find var/lock/ ! -type d -print0; } | xargs -0r $_CHROOT_SH rm I'm afraid this will

Re: Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-15 Thread Paul Wise
2011/4/16 Carl Fürstenberg: Thus I think we should consider updating the policy to either specify that a development package should provide a static library if possible, or that it shouldn't provide unless there are reasonable reasons for inclusions. IMO Debian should err on the side of not

Openstack Compute nova, Cactus release, Squeeze built available in our private repo

2011-04-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, This is a short email to let everyone know about the current status of the package. Cactus, the first serious release of Openstack Compute - nova, has been released yesterday. I have done loads of patches to have the package to fit in Debian, comply with the policy, and be lintian clean. The

Bug#622944: ITP: python-novaclient -- client library for OpenStack Compute API

2011-04-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org * Package name: python-novaclient Version : 2.4 Upstream Author : Openstack developers openst...@lists.launchpad.net * URL : http://www.openstack.org/ * License : Apache-2 Programming

Bug#622946: ITP: cloud-utils -- cloud image management utilities

2011-04-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org * Package name: cloud-utils Version : 0.21 Upstream Author : Canonical Ltd. Scott Moser scott.mo...@canonical.com * URL : https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-ec2/ubuntu-on-ec2/uec-tools *

Packaging cloud-utils in Debian

2011-04-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, As I am packaging Openstack in Debian, I will need to also package the cloud-utils package that you currently maintain. The issue is that currently, your package is a native package. That makes it impossible for me to use a .orig.tar.gz and eventually have differences separated in a specific

Re: Packaging cloud-utils in Debian

2011-04-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: As for other DDs reading debian-devel, what solution do I have available here? Use dpkg-source v3, which deletes any debian/ directory from the upstream tarball when unpacking. -- bye, pabs

Re: Openstack Compute nova, Cactus release, Squeeze built available in our private repo

2011-04-15 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 16/04/11 at 10:43 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, This is a short email to let everyone know about the current status of the package. Cactus, the first serious release of Openstack Compute - nova, has been released yesterday. I have done loads of patches to have the package to fit in

Accepted mumble 1.2.3-91-g05d91c1-1 (source all i386)

2011-04-15 Thread Thorvald Natvig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 06:35:05 +0200 Source: mumble Binary: mumble mumble-server mumble-dbg mumble-server-web Architecture: source all i386 Version: 1.2.3-91-g05d91c1-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team

Accepted blitz++ 1:0.9-12 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Andreas Tille
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 13:51:07 +0200 Source: blitz++ Binary: libblitz0ldbl libblitz0-dev libblitz-doc Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 1:0.9-12 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Science Team

Accepted jcc 2.8-1 (source amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Ludovico Cavedon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:53:06 -0700 Source: jcc Binary: jcc Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.8-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ludovico Cavedon cave...@debian.org Changed-By: Ludovico Cavedon cave...@debian.org

Accepted orc 1:0.4.12-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Sebastian Dröge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:30:42 +0200 Source: orc Binary: liborc-0.4-0 liborc-0.4-dev liborc-0.4-0-dbg liborc-0.4-doc Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 1:0.4.12-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Maintainers of

Accepted dolfin 0.9.10-2 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Johannes Ring
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:17:37 +0200 Source: dolfin Binary: libdolfin0-dev dolfin-dev libdolfin0 libdolfin0-dbg python-dolfin dolfin-doc dolfin-bin Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 0.9.10-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low

Accepted gstreamermm 0.10.9-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Sebastian Dröge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:36:34 +0200 Source: gstreamermm Binary: libgstreamermm-0.10-2 libgstreamermm-0.10-dev libgstreamermm-0.10-dbg libgstreamermm-0.10-doc Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 0.10.9-1 Distribution: experimental

Accepted josm 0.0.svn4021-1 (source all)

2011-04-15 Thread David Paleino
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:45:39 +0200 Source: josm Binary: josm Architecture: source all Version: 0.0.svn4021-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian GIS Project pkg-grass-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: David

Accepted python-debian 0.1.19 (source all)

2011-04-15 Thread John Wright
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 02:05:45 -0700 Source: python-debian Binary: python-debian Architecture: source all Version: 0.1.19 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian python-debian Maintainers

Accepted velvet 1.1.02~nozlibcopy-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Andreas Tille
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:51:16 +0200 Source: velvet Binary: velvet velvet-example Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 1.1.02~nozlibcopy-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Med Packaging Team

Accepted itsalltext 1.5-1 (source all)

2011-04-15 Thread Jan Lübbe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:21:55 +0200 Source: itsalltext Binary: xul-ext-itsalltext iceweasel-itsalltext Architecture: source all Version: 1.5-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Mozilla Extension Maintainers

Accepted epiphany-extensions 3.0.0-2 (source amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Frederic Peters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:04:24 +0200 Source: epiphany-extensions Binary: epiphany-extensions Architecture: source amd64 Version: 3.0.0-2 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org Changed-By:

Accepted kde4libs 4:4.4.5-4 (source all i386)

2011-04-15 Thread Sune Vuorela
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:05:06 +0100 Source: kde4libs Binary: libkdecore5 libkdeui5 libkpty4 libkdesu5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkio5 libkntlm4 libsolid4 libkde3support4 libkfile4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libkparts4 libkutils4

Accepted geeqie 1:1.0-8 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Michal Čihař
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:09:50 +0200 Source: geeqie Binary: geeqie geeqie-common geeqie-gps geeqie-dbg gqview gqview-dbg Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 1:1.0-8 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michal Čihař

Accepted josm-plugins 0.0.svn25845-1 (source all)

2011-04-15 Thread David Paleino
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:47:33 +0200 Source: josm-plugins Binary: josm-plugins Architecture: source all Version: 0.0.svn25845-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian GIS Project pkg-grass-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Accepted chromium-browser 10.0.648.205~r81283-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Giuseppe Iuculano
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:13:45 +0200 Source: chromium-browser Binary: chromium-browser chromium-browser-dbg chromium-browser-l10n chromium-browser-inspector chromium chromium-dbg chromium-l10n chromium-inspector Architecture: source all

Accepted xen 4.1.0-2 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Bastian Blank
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:38:25 +0200 Source: xen Binary: xen-docs-4.1 libxenstore3.0 libxen-dev xenstore-utils xen-utils-4.1 xen-hypervisor-4.1-amd64 xen-hypervisor-4.1-i386 Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 4.1.0-2 Distribution:

Accepted grub2 1.99~rc1-13 (source i386)

2011-04-15 Thread Colin Watson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:11:21 +0100 Source: grub2 Binary: grub2 grub-linuxbios grub-efi grub-common grub-emu grub-pc grub-rescue-pc grub-coreboot grub-efi-ia32 grub-efi-amd64 grub-ieee1275 grub-firmware-qemu grub-yeeloong

Accepted gupnp-dlna 0.6.1-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Andreas Henriksson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:11:51 +0200 Source: gupnp-dlna Binary: libgupnp-dlna-1.0-2 libgupnp-dlna-1.0-dev libgupnp-dlna-1.0-dbg libgupnp-dlna-doc gupnp-dlna-tools Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 0.6.1-1 Distribution: unstable

Accepted glibmm2.4 2.28.0-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Deng Xiyue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:05:51 +0800 Source: glibmm2.4 Binary: libglibmm-2.4-1c2a libglibmm-2.4-dev libglibmm-2.4-dbg libglibmm-2.4-doc Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 2.28.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Deng

Accepted zenity 3.0.0-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Frederic Peters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:06:51 +0200 Source: zenity Binary: zenity zenity-common Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 3.0.0-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ross Burton r...@debian.org Changed-By: Frederic Peters

Accepted apt 0.8.14 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Julian Andres Klode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:28:15 +0200 Source: apt Binary: apt apt-doc libapt-pkg-dev libapt-pkg-doc apt-utils apt-transport-https Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 0.8.14 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer:

Accepted gcontactsync 0.3.2-1 (source all)

2011-04-15 Thread Michael Meskes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:32:50 +0200 Source: gcontactsync Binary: icedove-gcontactsync Architecture: source all Version: 0.3.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michael Meskes mes...@debian.org Changed-By: Michael Meskes

Accepted fcitx 1:4.0.1-6 (source i386 all)

2011-04-15 Thread Aron Xu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 15:03:33 +0800 Source: fcitx Binary: fcitx fcitx-data fcitx-table-all fcitx-table-bingchan fcitx-table-cangjie fcitx-table-dianbaoma fcitx-table-erbi fcitx-table-wanfeng fcitx-table-wbpy fcitx-table-wubi

Accepted globus-gridmap-callout-error 0.3-1 (source amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Mattias Ellert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 11:28:25 +0200 Source: globus-gridmap-callout-error Binary: libglobus-gridmap-callout-error0 libglobus-gridmap-callout-error-dev libglobus-gridmap-callout-error-doc globus-gridmap-callout-error-dbg Architecture:

Accepted python-defaults 2.6.6-14 (source all)

2011-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:04:07 -0400 Source: python-defaults Binary: python python-minimal python-examples python-dev idle python-doc python-dbg python-all python-all-dev python-all-dbg Architecture: source all Version: 2.6.6-14

Accepted etoolbox 1.9-1 (source all)

2011-04-15 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:04:08 +0100 Source: etoolbox Binary: etoolbox Architecture: source all Version: 1.9-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian TeX Task Force debian-tex-ma...@lists.debian.org Changed-By: Jan Hauke

Accepted etoolbox 2.1-1 (source all)

2011-04-15 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:27:56 +0200 Source: etoolbox Binary: etoolbox Architecture: source all Version: 2.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian TeX Task Force debian-tex-ma...@lists.debian.org Changed-By: Jan Hauke

Accepted logreq 1.0-1 (source all)

2011-04-15 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:51:33 +0100 Source: logreq Binary: logreq Architecture: source all Version: 1.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian TeX Task Force debian-tex-ma...@lists.debian.org Changed-By: Jan Hauke

Accepted sushi 1.3.0+dfsg-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-15 Thread Devid Antonio Filoni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:04:36 +0100 Source: sushi Binary: maki nigiri tekka sushi-plugins Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 1.3.0+dfsg-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Devid Antonio Filoni d.fil...@ubuntu.com

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