+++ Thorsten Glaser [2012-05-27 17:52 +]:
Wookey dixit:
here's a case where a lot of space gets used in there: open a .ppt
(powerpoint) file in libreoffice. The conversion involves writing a
file in /tmp/mktmpdir for every page/image. To open an image-heavy
256Mb .ppt I have lying
+++ Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2012-05-27 11:04 -0300]:
On Sat, 26 May 2012, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
Or, it should get clever and not unpack everything. There are plenty of
software that are able to read into archives without extracting from
them.
You can't do it for a .tar.gz or a
Salvo Tomaselli tipos...@tiscali.it writes:
This is indeed a valid point. But that’s no regression; /tmp has
always been for small short-lived files, and /var/tmp for those
that are not one of them or not both.
You just made up this difference.
No he didn't, it's common practice from
* Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk [120527 17:25]:
Creating arbitrarily large temporary files outside the user's home
directory is generally going to be unreliable.
The only thing more unreliable than that is creating arbitrary large
file in user's home directory. If it is not supposed to be
Your message dated Mon, 28 May 2012 11:04:38 +0200
with message-id 201205281104.39421.hol...@layer-acht.org
and subject line this ain't a general problem
has caused the Debian Bug report #666541,
regarding [Wish] package OpenSearch descriptions for reuse by all browsers
to be marked as done.
This
Your message dated Mon, 28 May 2012 11:10:45 +0200
with message-id 201205281110.46218.hol...@layer-acht.org
and subject line Re: Bug#626424: Please implement a method to save and restore
netfilter rules at boot
has caused the Debian Bug report #626424,
regarding Please implement a method to save
Your message dated Mon, 28 May 2012 11:11:39 +0200
with message-id 20120528.40391.hol...@layer-acht.org
and subject line hardware issue, thus closing
has caused the Debian Bug report #662932,
regarding general: USB devices, mass storage, and printer cause system fail,
and report a lot of log
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
reassign 635756 hal
Bug #635756 [general] unknown: Improved useability for ExpressCard to
CompactFlash adaptors
Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'hal'.
Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #635756 to the same values
previously
Hi,
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 02:22:24AM +0300, Serge wrote:
What's a temporary file? Really, why would applications temporarily store
its data in a file? They do that to *free some memory*. Placing those files
back to memory renders the whole process of writing the file useless.
If the files
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 05:58:55PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Charles Plessy dixit:
upstream source moved to GitHub, and we would like to try to maintain the
Debian package there as well.
This is not a good idea: http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html
MUCH seconded. Thanks for
On Mon, 28 May 2012 13:03:47 +0200
Toni Mueller t...@debian.org wrote:
It's not, see below. Also, most of the time, /tmp goes into / (on
smaller systems), and is thus typically *very* much limited in space.
If the theory is to design for the trained chicken install (and it still is,
right?),
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 01:21:43PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
As you wrote, nothing is infinite. I don't think that /tmp is worse than
/home like other said. Your /home could become full as well.
Your /home could be a network share like NFS and /tmp a local partition,
so you don’t want to
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 01:59:24AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
I don't recall that being common practice on any multi-user Unix-like
system I've used. (It's also not something a Windows user would expect,
Well, it was back in my university days, and it still is where I work.
Maybe
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On 28/05/12 08:15, Miles Bader wrote:
Salvo Tomaselli tipos...@tiscali.it writes:
This is indeed a valid point. But that’s no regression; /tmp has
always been for small short-lived files, and /var/tmp for those
that are not one of them or not both.
You just made up this difference.
No he
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On 05/28/2012 04:46 AM, Serge wrote:
The truth is that tmpfs IS FASTER in some cases. The problem is that
*nobody* can notice that on *real* applications.
Serge, I'm on your side of the discussion, but the above is simply
not truth. And by the way, that's not the issue. The issue is potential
On 28/05/12 17:48, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 05/28/2012 04:46 AM, Serge wrote:
The truth is that tmpfs IS FASTER in some cases. The problem is that
*nobody* can notice that on *real* applications.
Serge, I'm on your side of the discussion, but the above is simply
not truth. And by the way,
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 05:06:25PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
Of course, all of these packages appear to be specific to amd64, so I don't
know why Mark would be adding new biarch packages for s390. You should
probably ask him.
Ask the s390x folks, they asked for them. Though what on earth
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:14:49PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Seeing the trouble broonie has with zlib, why are those
packages still built anyway? Can???t they please go away?
The biarch packages really aren't any bother, the issue with s390x has
been having to jump through hoops due to the
Mark Brown broo...@sirena.org.uk (28/05/2012):
Ask the s390x folks, they asked for them. Though what on earth inspired
them to name the new architecture such that the old architecture name is
a substring of the new name is beyond me... As far as I can tell nobody
is really using the biarch
[Philip Ashmore]
On my machine running set set.txt ls -lsa set.txt reveals that my
environment contains 225517 of stuff - some of it is even being
taken up by
exported function definitions!
As mentioned earlier, 'set' is not reporting much more than the
environment exported to external
On 28/05/12 19:17, Peter Samuelson wrote:
[Philip Ashmore]
On my machine running set set.txt ls -lsa set.txt reveals that my
environment contains 225517 of stuff - some of it is even being
taken up by
exported function definitions!
As mentioned earlier, 'set' is not reporting much more
[Ben Hutchings]
We should be thinking about implementing per-user temporary directories
and making sure that programs respect $TMPDIR.
Yes, per-user temp directories is a good idea. Installing the
libpam-tmpdir package enable this by default, and beside some problems
with the root user (bad
On 05/28/2012 04:47 PM, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
I personally think having tmpdir on /tmp might be a good default for
new systems. If systems get changed to that from something else on
upgrade without asking, I consider that quite an ugly bug.
And you're not the only one. It seems that at
[Philip Ashmore]
I guess I'm confused as to why bash completion needs these.
Easy enough to read /etc/bash_completion and /etc/bash_completion.d/*
and see for yourself why it needs these.
bash-completion is full of special cases to do the right thing in
hundreds or thousands of different
Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org writes:
If you can think of a way to implement this same stuff (and remember,
bash-completion supports a _lot_ more complex cases than 'kill')
without adding 200 kB of shell functions to bash's runtime, by all
means, do it and see how it works out.
What would
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Miles Baderwrote:
What would seem interesting would be a way to autoload bash completion
support for each command ... as it would seem not uncommon to have shell
sessions where the user never tries to use completion for 99% of the
commands handled.
[or does
On 05/29/2012 03:13 AM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Perhaps it should be
extended to allow the directory to be below ~/ instead of below
/tmp/. :)
I don't think so. As other pointed out, your /home could be
remote (over NFS?), and then slow, while /tmp is normally
on your local machine, so
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Severity: wishlist
]] Petter Reinholdtsen
[Ben Hutchings]
We should be thinking about implementing per-user temporary directories
and making sure that programs respect $TMPDIR.
Yes, per-user temp directories is a good idea. Installing the
libpam-tmpdir package
]] Thomas Goirand
What's the folder structure in /tmp then? /tmp/something/$USER?
/tmp/user/$UID is the default. It can be overridden, but not in a
manner that's compatible with Petter's suggestion.
--
Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are
--
To
On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 12:15 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
What's the folder structure in /tmp then? /tmp/something/$USER?
It's the Wild West over there. You'll often see something
like /tmp/$procname/$pid/blah or /tmp/$procname/$user/blah, or
just /tmp/$some_hash_of_who_knows_what/blah.
FHS is
Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.au writes:
This is not a good idea: http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html
MUCH seconded. Thanks for sharing the link!
I don't see the problem, github is just a hosting provider. Unlike,
say Bitkeeper, you are free to make git clones anywhere,
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes:
Perhaps it should be
extended to allow the directory to be below ~/ instead of below
/tmp/. :)
I don't think so. As other pointed out, your /home could be
remote (over NFS?), and then slow, while /tmp is normally
on your local machine, so moving the
Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes:
bazillion packages in debian that blithely cache vast quantities of
(often very uninteresting) data in random subdirs of $HOME... and then
Fortunately there is some movement towards the use of XDG_CACHE_DIR
(defaults to ~/.cache).
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On 28 May 2012 21:16, Toni Mueller t...@debian.org wrote:
This is not a good idea: http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html
MUCH seconded. Thanks for sharing the link!
I don't see the problem, github is just a hosting provider. Unlike,
say Bitkeeper, you are free to make git clones
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Maintainer: Apollon Oikonomopoulos apoi...@gmail.com
Changed-By: Apollon Oikonomopoulos
++6-4.7-pic - GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (shared library subset kit)
Closes: 674830
Changes:
gcc-4.7 (4.7.0-10) unstable; urgency=low
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* Update to SVN 20120528 (r187927) from the gcc-4_7-branch.
- Fix PR rtl-optimization/52528, PR lto/52178, PR target/53435,
PR ada/52362, PR
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