On 29/01/2013 12:55, Marco d'Itri wrote:
Chi viene?
Ci vediamo venerdì sera a cena, prima di annegarci nella birra?
Io arriverò con il volo da Malpensa delle 12, quindi dopo un veloce
barile di cozze da Chez Leon conto di fare il turista. Qualcuno ha già
piani per il pomeriggio? Oppure
On Jan 30, Federico Di Gregorio f...@dndg.it wrote:
NH City Center come sempre. Ti mando il mio cell in privato così
eventualmente possiamo sentirci per cene e affini.
OK, il mio è sempre il solito.
Ma tutti gli altri? Non leggete la lista o semplicemente vi sto sul
cazzo?
--
ciao,
Marco
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 03:38:52PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
Ma tutti gli altri? Non leggete la lista o semplicemente vi sto sul
cazzo?
Fondamentalmente non leggo molto la lista :)
Noi arriveremo su in carovana da 9 venerdí sul tardi, e al gruppo se ne
aggiungono altri 3. A seconda di come
Hi Chow,
Chow Loong Jin hyper...@debian.org writes:
1. If software that depends on native packages is installed using go get
or whatever other language-specific package manager, e.g. pip for Python
or
gem for Ruby is installed, there is no way to declare a dependency on
those.
On Wed, 2013-01-30 at 17:58 +1100, Joey Hess wrote:
Julien Cristau wrote:
Maybe I forgot the answer, but at least in terms of git and the dpkg
3.0 (git) format, why can't we simply make use of shallow cloning?
At which point you have lost all the advantages of shipping the
repository
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Iustin Pop wrote:
I would add one thing here: Haskell/GHC also (currently) doesn't create
shared libraries, and instead builds the program statically, but the
Debian Haskell group still tries to package as best as they can the
development libraries, for all
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
Having multiple package managers which don't know about each other on a system
is evil™ (but in some cases, can be managed properly).
Some integration between dpkg and domain-specific package managers
could be useful. With DEP-11, we
Le 30/01/2013 09:55, Paul Wise a écrit :
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
Having multiple package managers which don't know about each other on a
system
is evil™ (but in some cases, can be managed properly).
Some integration between dpkg and domain-specific package
On 01/29/2013 08:29 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
Benjamin Drung bdr...@debian.org writes:
Other distributions gain from your extra work. Image the opposite. You
want to package a software that is only available in a downstream
distribution (e.g. Ubuntu or Linux Mint). Do you prefer to have a
On 01/28/2013 08:59 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
In my opinion, a native package is the wrong choice when your only
arguments for it is convenience.
That's not a strong argument
To the contrary, I think that convenience of one or another
format is the *only* argument.
What you've listed as
]] Michael Stapelberg
I am not familiar with the Ruby situation, I only know that many Ruby
developers seem to be very angry at Debian people. Is there a summary of
the events that I could read?
Debian's rubygems package installed gems to a directory not in $PATH,
meaning most documentation
Hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 30.01.2013, 16:52 +0800 schrieb Paul Wise:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Iustin Pop wrote:
I would add one thing here: Haskell/GHC also (currently) doesn't create
shared libraries, and instead builds the program statically, but the
Debian Haskell group still tries
On 01/30/2013 04:38 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
Also, I wonder if it is possible to arrange that having unpacked a git
format source package that the remotes for debian and upstream are
already prepopulated in the repo such that git remotes update would
fetch all of the missing history without
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 04:52:33PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Iustin Pop wrote:
So, take this as an example of another language which doesn't do shared
linking but for which libraries are still packaged in Debian.
FWIW, OCaml is another such example.
Do all
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 04:52:33PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Iustin Pop wrote:
So, take this as an example of another language which doesn't do shared
linking but for which libraries are still packaged
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 09:22:12AM +0100, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
3. Software packages from Apt cannot declare dependencies against
language-specific packages, for the same reasons highlighted in
#1.
Irrelevant argument in our case, as outlined earlier in the
discussion.
* Michael Stapelberg:
Hilko Bengen ben...@debian.org writes:
This is a pity for those of us who don't really subscribe to get
everything from github as needed model of distributing software.
Yes, but at the same time, it makes Go much more consistent across
multiple platforms.
Apparently,
* Wouter Verhelst:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 08:25:38AM +0100, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
Hi Hilko,
Hilko Bengen ben...@debian.org writes:
This is a pity for those of us who don't really subscribe to get
everything from github as needed model of distributing software.
Yes, but at the same
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:57:03 +0100, Michael Stapelberg
stapelb...@debian.org wrote:
Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes:
consistency across multiple platforms has been claimed as a benefit
for allowing gem update --system to replace half of the ruby binary
package, amongst other things. It
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Hi Hilko,
Hilko Bengen ben...@debian.org writes:
I drew a different conclusion from Ian's messages the thread you
mentioned (see the quotes below). Apparently, one *can* build shared
libraries using gccgo, but they are not currently usable using dlopen().
My impression was that this means
tranquilo.. metele sin lio
esta en el non-free aqui se usa . es el paquete firmware-qlogic
saludos
El 30 de enero de 2013 10:42, andres cespedes andres172...@gmail.comescribió:
Buenos días a tod@s,
Quisiera consultar con todos ustedes si alguno ha llegado a implementar
Tarjetas HBA
tranquilo.. metele sin lio
esta en el non-free aqui se usa . es el paquete firmware-qlogic
saludos
El 30 de enero de 2013 10:42, andres cespedes andres172...@gmail.comescribió:
Buenos días a tod@s,
Quisiera consultar con todos ustedes si alguno ha llegado a implementar
Tarjetas HBA
Marcelo wrote:
This situation gets so messy, that some Ruby developers prefer
to _not_ install ruby via dpkg at all. And they get mad when
something in the dependency chain pulls Ruby into the system.
To be fair, it's similar in reverse. Some Debian developers prefer to
_not_ install Ruby
+++ Michael Biebl [2013-01-25 15:31 +0100]:
Hi,
looking over your proposal, I was missing a few things (sorry if this
was mentioned in one of the replies, I've only skimmed over the thread).
a/ It's good practice to explicitly enable/disable features via
configure switches, to have
+++ Ian Jackson [2013-01-16 13:50 +]:
* The concrete syntax in build-depends should not use but rather
reuse the architecture qualification syntax.
I have just been told of a specific reason to avoid using ' ' :
DEP-11 proposes to use ' ' for Component metadata in binary packages
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:25:12 +, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com
wrote:
To be fair, it's similar in reverse. Some Debian developers prefer to
_not_ install Ruby *at all*. Given how utterly awful the internals of
the language implementation are, I'd happily support dropping Ruby
from Debian
Paul Wise pabs at debian.org writes:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
Having multiple package managers which don't know about each other on a
system
is evil™ (but in some cases, can be managed properly).
Meh, it’s evil, period.
Some integration between dpkg and
Marc Haber mh+debian-devel at zugschlus.de writes:
In my past experience it is the usual case where and upstream and/or
its community takes at as a personal offense when a user is not using
the latest and greatest software version[1] and does not understand
I think the Ruby case involved
Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org writes:
My co-developer (on the MirBSD side) benz has written a script that
almost automates creation of a port (source package) from/for a CPAN:
http://www.slideshare.net/bsiegert/painless-perl-ports-with-cpan2port
(It looks even MacPorts has adopted it!)
Of
Russ Allbery rra at debian.org writes:
Do you think there's something substantial missing from the existing
Debian packaging of Perl modules? I'm quite happy with what Debian is
(Oops. Forgot to fix a spelling mistake in the Subject in my
first reply. It’s not Go!) (Hello GMane, no I was
2013/1/30 Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:25:12 +, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com
wrote:
To be fair, it's similar in reverse. Some Debian developers prefer to
_not_ install Ruby *at all*. Given how utterly awful the internals of
the language implementation
* Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org, 2013-01-21, 22:17:
adequate checks quality of installed packages.
can it be used on chroots without being installed in the chroot?
like
adequate --root=/some/chroot mypkg
You can't do that currently, and I'm afraid it won't be easy to
implement.
adequate
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 09:16:59PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Meh, it’s evil, period.
Absolutely. As a user I have a nice package management system that I
know how to use and which works well. I don't need another one.
It is not the job of a language developer to invent yet another bloody
Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca writes:
Absolutely. As a user I have a nice package management system that I
know how to use and which works well. I don't need another one.
It is not the job of a language developer to invent yet another bloody
package distribution and
On 31/01/2013 05:16, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
Having multiple package managers which don't know about each other on a
system
is evil™ (but in some cases, can be managed properly).
Meh, it’s evil, period.
Well, really, the
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hi dd,
i really like the readline in bash - it seems bash is vi complete in vi mode.
now, i haven't looked closely, but i think the good vi mode is a patch
on (bash?) readline in debian?
in centos, i can't df; and delete up to next semicolon.
but on ubu^H^H^Hdebian, rlwrap uses the vanilla
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 09:21:08PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Marc Haber mh+debian-devel at zugschlus.de writes:
In my past experience it is the usual case where and upstream and/or
its community takes at as a personal offense when a user is not using
the latest and greatest software
On 30/01/2013 22:23, Игорь Пашев wrote:
2013/1/30 Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:25:12 +, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com
wrote:
To be fair, it's similar in reverse. Some Debian developers prefer to
_not_ install Ruby *at all*. Given how utterly awful the
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On 01/31/2013 02:45 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
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