Debian/Ubuntu Community Conference Italia 2013
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1 e 2 giugno
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
Please don't introduce yet more embedded code copies.
Already happened and uploaded. Will be reverted when libgd is fixed.
The fact that you couldn't have waited *one* more day after I have
announced that I will fix the
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Stuart Prescott stu...@debian.org
* Package name: cssmin
Version : 0.1.4
Upstream Author : Zachary Voase zacharyvo...@me.com
* URL : http://github.com/zacharyvoase/cssmin
* License : Expat
Programming Lang: Python
Hi,
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 07:33:43PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org writes:
Perhaps, but I think we just lack better documentation and advice when
it comes to shared library handling in general.
There was an attempt by Junichi Uekawa (CCed) some time ago
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
Please don't introduce yet more embedded code copies.
Already happened and uploaded. Will be reverted when libgd is fixed.
And the general result of such embedding can be seen here:
]] Holger Levsen
I am absolutly in favor of doing this, but this either needs (more hardware)
ressources or is non-trivial. Still, I'm all for it and happy to help.
While we of course don't have infinite hardware resources, we generally
have spare capacity and I'd like people to at least
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 03:42:06PM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
Le vendredi 17 mai 2013 15:36:02, Julien Cristau a écrit :
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 14:14:20 +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
Also, it wouldn't help for the case of a binNMU on a subset of all arches
since only some of
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 01:21:41AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
That might be possible with DPAs and if upload management is changed
generally to get less broken packages into unstable. E.g.
I think that most of the ideas you presented are very useful and other
responses have (silently)
Hi,
On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Ondřej Surý wrote:
One more thing – I concur with Sune and Paul that your style was/is
unnecessary aggressive and you should tone down a little bit on the
public mailing list. Responding to friendly poke with more aggression
is not worth any bug or any software.
Hi Tollef,
On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
I am absolutly in favor of doing this, but this either needs (more
hardware) ressources or is non-trivial. Still, I'm all for it and happy
to help.
While we of course don't have infinite hardware resources, we generally
have
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 01:21:41AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
That might be possible with DPAs and if upload management is changed
generally to get less broken packages into unstable. E.g.
What problem are you trying to solve? What percentage of packages is
currently broken? Please specify
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:36:53AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 01:10:06PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:21:33PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:03:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
I think that, to convince
Package: wnpp
Owner: Cyril Bouthors c...@debian.org
Severity: wishlist
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Upstream Author : Sriram Karra karra@gmail.com
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* License : I started a discussion with upstream about that,
On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Ondřej Surý wrote:
And the general result of such embedding can be seen here:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709145
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709146
Which I have both closed now.
The libraries have to be present in the code for
Hi,
On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Bastian Blank wrote:
What problem are you trying to solve? What percentage of packages is
currently broken? Please specify the false positive and false negative
rates of all tests involved, especially the ones you propose without
supervision.
the archive is
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org
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Version : 2.3
Upstream Author : Glen Smith glen_a_sm...@users.sourceforge.net
* URL : http://opencsv.sourceforge.net
* License : Apache-2.0
Programming Lang: Java
Hi,
On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
@all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily
integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality?
have an option to run piuparts automatically by debuild, after or before
lintian.
cheers,
@all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily
integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality?
This is something we could improve right now. Integrating piuparts into
the ftp-master/buildd side will take a much longer way.
On 2013-05-19 18:39, Ondřej Surý
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:
Hi,
On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
@all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily
integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality?
have an option to run
On 2013-05-21 11:47, Holger Levsen wrote:
As you asked for numbers, here is one: there are 167 piuparts failures in sid
today. Thats 167 bugs to file (if they werent already). Which wouldnt have to
be filed if these packages would not have entered in the first place.
Not to forget the 550
On 21/05/13 10:48, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
@all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily
integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality?
Ideally, I would like a guide to setting up piuparts in a simple,
recommended way, which doesn't assume I already
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:17:38PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
On 21/05/13 10:48, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
@all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily
integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality?
Ideally, I would like a guide to setting up
Le mardi, 21 mai 2013 12.35:47, Ondřej Surý a écrit :
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org
wrote:
have an option to run piuparts automatically by debuild, after or before
lintian.
Also integrate it with git-pbuilder/pbuilder/cowbuilder to run
piuparts
Hi,
On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Simon McVittie wrote:
Ideally, I would like a guide to setting up piuparts in a simple,
recommended way, which doesn't assume I already have in-depth knowledge
of piuparts, and preferably also doesn't assume I already use pbuilder.
that's really easy, esp. with
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 07:02:17PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Adam D. Barratt
a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote:
Or that gd needs to not tie its own transition to libtiff, and should go
back to using libtiff4 until we're ready to do the tiff transition.
JFTR I
On 2013-05-21 14:28, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Simon McVittie wrote:
Ideally, I would like a guide to setting up piuparts in a simple,
recommended way, which doesn't assume I already have in-depth knowledge
of piuparts, and preferably also doesn't assume I already use
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Colin Watson cjwat...@debian.org wrote:
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 07:02:17PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Adam D. Barratt
a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote:
Or that gd needs to not tie its own transition to libtiff, and should go
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br
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On 2013-05-21 13:27, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Le mardi, 21 mai 2013 12.35:47, Ondřej Surý a écrit :
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org
wrote:
have an option to run piuparts automatically by debuild, after or before
lintian.
that means we need a driver
Hi Andreas,
On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
That allows some basic test (installing all the .debs from the
.changes), but not the per-package testing as its done on piuparts.d.o.
But such fine-granular testing is required to discover some dependency
issues.
Sure! But
Le mardi, 21 mai 2013 14.58:17, Andreas Beckmann a écrit :
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org
wrote:
have an option to run piuparts automatically by debuild, after or
before lintian.
that means we need a driver script that accepts a .changes file and
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote:
I consider the package-by-package testing as a much better test than
installing all the packages at once because it can discover much more
dependency issues - and it much closer resembles what is being run on
On 05/21/2013 06:35 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote:
Also integrate it with git-pbuilder/pbuilder/cowbuilder to run
piuparts inside the created clean(ish) chroot, so it's less time
consuming.
O.
This really would be nice, indeed!!!
I've been asking for that feature already, and I am happy to see
that
Am 19.05.2013 20:17, schrieb Russ Allbery:
Bastien ROUCARIES roucaries.bast...@gmail.com writes:
These packages include documentation licensed under GFDL with Invariant
Sections or Cover Texts:
autoconf2.64
The documentation has subsequently been relicensed upstream to remove the
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 03:44:06PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
I would like to save the effort to upload that. And if somebody wants to nmu
that, please just append dfsg to the version, not +dfsg. +dfsg is annoyingly
popular, but prevents updates of something like 2.64.1.
$ dpkg
On 21-05-13 12:05, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
@all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily
integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality?
have an option to run piuparts automatically by debuild,
Matthias Klose d...@debian.org writes:
I would like to save the effort to upload that. And if somebody wants
to nmu that, please just append dfsg to the version, not +dfsg. +dfsg
is annoyingly popular, but prevents updates of something like 2.64.1.
I think you're confusing +dfsg with .dfsg.
On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
The trouble is...
hence my suggestion to have debuild do this optionally.
your suggestion of having pdebuild do it by default is a good one though. I
guess someone should do something, eg file bugs.
:)
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On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 05:58:00PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
The trouble is that piuparts doesn't manage its own chroot tarball last
I checked; it uses the pbuilder tarball instead.
piuparts -s $HOME/piuparts.tar.gz ... # create the tarball
piuparts -b $HOME/piuparts.tar.gz ... # use the
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Dmitry Papchenkov dmitry.papchenk...@gmail.com
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Norbert Preining dixit:
Currently everyone is upgrading libkpathsea6 to in incompatible
version, because texlive-lang is in NEW and the partial upgrade
breaks the whole TeX system.
I *really* hope you’re joking here.
That to prevent is what package relationships are for!
You might want to
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Oleg Gashev o...@gashev.net
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Severity: wishlist
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Version : 39
Upstream Author : The Suckless Team
* URL : http://www.suckless.org/
* License
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Severity: wishlist
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Hi,
On 05/21/2013 03:27 AM, Norbert Preining wrote:
Currently everyone is upgrading libkpathsea6 to in incompatible
version, because texlive-lang is in NEW and the partial upgrade
breaks the whole TeX system.
was it possible to escape this? I have spent today half an hour to
understand, what
On 2013-05-21 20:45, Dmitry Papchenkov wrote:
* Package name: meta-suckless-tools
Version : 39
Upstream Author : The Suckless Team
* URL : http://www.suckless.org/
* License : MIT/X
Programming Lang: C
Description : meta-package installs simple
* Dmitry Papchenkov dmitry.papchenk...@gmail.com, 2013-05-21, 23:56:
* Package name: st
This name is already taken (by an unrelated package):
http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/st.html
Version : 0.4.1
Upstream Author : Anselm R Garbe ans...@garbe.us, Auréen Aptel
10 packages, excluding metapackage.
This work was originally done for test-packages for mentors.debian.net
as an effort to update and clean up suckless-tools.
But after posting packages to mentors I was requested to make ITP-bugs for it.
So, I'll post ITP just for two packages and wait if
I see. Sorry, I should check latest suckless-tools package before
submitting an ITP.
Version 38 of suckless-tools package includes st, and there is no new
version in stable, testing or unstable.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org wrote:
* Dmitry Papchenkov
Hi,
On 20/05/13 at 18:19 +0200, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
Hello,
In the past, we have had multiple heated discussions involving
systemd. We (the pkg-systemd-maintainers team) would like to better
understand why some people dislike systemd.
Therefore, we have created a survey, which you
Hi Lucas,
Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org writes:
I think that one reason why we risk having another init systems
discussion is that there hasn't been (TTBOMK) a good effort to summarize
the various point raised and your answers (as systemd maintainers) to
them. Such a systemd demystification
Hi!
2013/5/21 Michael Stapelberg stapelb...@debian.org:
Hi Lucas,
Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org writes:
I think that one reason why we risk having another init systems
discussion is that there hasn't been (TTBOMK) a good effort to summarize
the various point raised and your answers (as
On 13218 March 1977, Dmitry Papchenkoff wrote:
10 packages, excluding metapackage.
This work was originally done for test-packages for mentors.debian.net
as an effort to update and clean up suckless-tools.
But after posting packages to mentors I was requested to make ITP-bugs for it.
So, I'll
On 21 May 2013 21:53, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
On 20/05/13 at 18:19 +0200, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
Hello,
- Neither systemd nor upstart are likely to be ported to kfreebsd soon,
as they both rely on many Linux-specific features and interfaces.
Well, Colin Watson,
On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Anton Gladky wrote:
was it possible to escape this? I have spent today half an hour to
understand, what is going on with Tex and trying to fix that.
Downgrade to libkpathsea6 from stable.
Norbert
Am 22.05.2013 02:00, schrieb Dmitrijs Ledkovs:
On 21 May 2013 21:53, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
On 20/05/13 at 18:19 +0200, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
Hello,
- Neither systemd nor upstart are likely to be ported to kfreebsd soon,
as they both rely on many Linux-specific
Hi Thorsten,
On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Currently everyone is upgrading libkpathsea6 to in incompatible
version, because texlive-lang is in NEW and the partial upgrade
breaks the whole TeX system.
I *really* hope you’re joking here.
No.
That to prevent is what package
On 13 May 2013 19:14, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Philip Hands p...@hands.com writes:
No matter what the technical merits, the inevitable flame war regarding
copyright assignment seems very likely to render upstart a non-starter
as an essential element of Debian.
Debian already uses
On 22 May 2013 01:16, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
Am 22.05.2013 02:00, schrieb Dmitrijs Ledkovs:
On 21 May 2013 21:53, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
On 20/05/13 at 18:19 +0200, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
Hello,
- Neither systemd nor upstart are likely to be ported to
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:19 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 01:21:41AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
That might be possible with DPAs and if upload management is changed
generally to get less broken packages into unstable. E.g.
I think that most of the ideas you presented
Hi!
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 01:47:42 +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
On 22 May 2013 01:16, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
Am 22.05.2013 02:00, schrieb Dmitrijs Ledkovs:
On 21 May 2013 21:53, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org wrote:
On 20/05/13 at 18:19 +0200, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 04:09:33 AM Guillem Jover wrote:
...
... But then I'm not interested in assigning my copyright to a for-profit
company that is not employing me ...
...
It may be a distinction without difference from your perspective, but in the
interests of precision, they no
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:16:29AM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
I have signed Canonical's and Python Software Foundation's contributor
agreements.
But I have no intention to assign copyright to FSF at the moment,
given it's past well documented bad practices at doing things for the
sake of
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 22:16:46 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 04:09:33 AM Guillem Jover wrote:
...
... But then I'm not interested in assigning my copyright to a for-profit
company that is not employing me ...
...
It may be a distinction without difference
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I went through the various init systems threads again during the last
few days. My understanding of the consensus so far is the following:
- Both systemd and upstart bring many useful features, and are a
clear improvement over sysvinit.
Yes, both are an improvement
Maybe there should not be a separate package for each tool, but at
least st and dmenu should be packaged separately.
Moreover, there IS a package named stterm in unstable which ships st
separately (I've found it then published ITP for my version of st). It
lacks Breaks/Conflicts with
Le Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:48:57AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann a écrit :
@all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily
integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality?
This is something we could improve right now. Integrating piuparts into
the
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Dmitry Papchenkoff
dmitry.papchenk...@gmail.com wrote:
I see. Sorry, I should check latest suckless-tools package before
submitting an ITP.
suckless-tools no more contains st its now part of stterm package
Version 38 of suckless-tools package includes st, and
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Owner: tony mancill tmanc...@debian.org
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Yes, I already know that, probably bug should be closed for now.
Also, there is my effort in splitting suckless-tool completely, it's
in wnpp bug #709237, moving CFLAGS to quilt patches and support for
dpkg-buildflags.
I have done this already and uploaded packages to mentors, so maybe
you'll find
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