On 06/25/2014 02:23 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Are you going to recommend a $package-must-die for each of them?
Do you know any other package like systemd, with a non-negligible amount
of users willing to *not* have it installed, but which is always brought
back by insidious reverse
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Are you going to recommend a $package-must-die for each of them?
Do you know any other package like systemd, with a non-negligible amount
of users willing to *not* have it installed, but which is always brought
back by insidious reverse
FTR I used to be an Alioth admin, so I have some experience with the
work involved.
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Russell Stuart wrote:
Sorry to be blunt Raphael, but your response looks like a series of
platitudes designed to settle down the politics. Alioth's maintenance
is in serious trouble. It
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
FTR I used to be an Alioth admin, so I have some experience with the
work involved.
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Russell Stuart wrote:
Sorry to be blunt Raphael, but your response looks like a series of
platitudes designed to settle down the politics.
Le mercredi 25 juin 2014 à 14:29 +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
Do you know any other package like systemd, with a non-negligible amount
of users willing to *not* have it installed, but which is always brought
back by insidious reverse dependencies?
“Insidious reverse dependencies”?
You are
Hi,
Thomas Goirand:
On 06/25/2014 02:23 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Are you going to recommend a $package-must-die for each of them?
Do you know any other package like systemd, with a non-negligible amount
of users willing to *not* have it installed, but which is always brought
back by
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org
* Package name: python-retrying
Version : 1.2.2
Upstream Author : Ray Holder r...@blacklocus.com
* URL : https://github.com/rholder/retrying
* License : Apache-2.0
Programming Lang: Python
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org
* Package name: python-oslo.db
Version : 0.2.0
Upstream Author : OpenStack Development Mailing List
openstack-...@lists.openstack.org
* URL : https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db
* License
Hi,
Svante Signell:
Thanks to the systemd-must-die package I've prevented a new sneak in of
systemd-sysv on one of my computers. (have to get rid of the one already
there, time to boot is minutes and time from login to desktop is also
minutes :-( Faster boot, bah!)
Please take a closer look
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 06:09:38PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, Frédéric Brière wrote:
Marking all packages providing wordlist as Multi-Arch: foreign would
allow them to satisfy dependencies from packages of foreign
architectures.
[…]
2) This particular issue in scowl
Christoph Anton Mitterer dijo [Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:24:07PM +0200]:
I do feel the keyring-maint package is a leftover from days long
gone. Nowadays the keyring is kept at a DVCS tree, and regularly
exported to a publicly accessible instance.
Any reason for that internal repo? I mean what
Raphael Hertzog dijo [Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 09:17:25AM +0200]:
FWIW, I was thinking about including the possible disappearance as one
of the points to talk about in the DebConf BoF we proposed regarding
keyring-maint.
Why not switch it to something more dynamic ?
Make the package an
On 06/25/2014 03:59 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 25 juin 2014 à 14:29 +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
Do you know any other package like systemd, with a non-negligible amount
of users willing to *not* have it installed, but which is always brought
back by insidious reverse
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 22:01 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 06/25/2014 03:59 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
You are insinuating that people are surreptitiously adding dependencies
on systemd components their packages don’t need, just so that they get
installed on your system to piss you
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org
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Hi,
dpkg-buildflags will soon start using -fstack-protector-strong instead
of -fstack-protector as the compiler flag used to enable stack
protection. The new flag is a new feature introduced in GCC 4.9, more
information is available here:
https://lwn.net/Articles/584225/
Le 25/06/2014 08:49, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
This happened a few times already but only with well know DD.
For what it's worth, Ole is well known an respected in the area in which
he has contributed most, the Debian Astro team, which he created.
Kind regards, Thibaut.
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On 25/06/14 15:43, Svante Signell wrote:
Regarding mate desktop policykit-1 build-depends on libsystemd-login-dev
only for linux-any. What functionality is missing for other
architectures?
The interesting dependency chain is:
policykit-1 Depends libpam-systemd [linux-any] (degraded
Am 25.06.2014 17:26, schrieb Romain Francoise:
In preparation of this switch David Suárez did a full archive rebuild on
EC2, the results of which are detailed in the post linked above.
In summary, the bulk of the failures is for packages that explicitly use
an older GCC version, which doesn't
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Tobias Frost t...@coldtobi.de
* Package name: soci
Version : 3.2.2
Upstream Author : see http://soci.sourceforge.net/people.html
* URL : http://soci.sourceforge.net/
* License : Boost Software License 1.0
Programming
On Tue, 2014-06-24 at 20:23 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 24 juin 2014 à 19:57 +0200, Svante Signell a écrit :
Are there any chances that some version of policykit-1 could stay free
from any *systemd* dependency?
PolicyKit needs a session tracking mechanism, and with ConsoleKit
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 17:38 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
On 25/06/14 15:43, Svante Signell wrote:
Regarding mate desktop policykit-1 build-depends on libsystemd-login-dev
only for linux-any. What functionality is missing for other
architectures?
The interesting dependency chain is:
On 25/06/14 19:51, Svante Signell wrote:
Looks like consolekit is the package fork if such a thing ever happens.
There are still patches, mainly for kFreeBSD, from 2013-2014 in the
freedesktop BTS since the last release. When was the Debian switch from
consolekit to policykit-1 made?
On 25/06/14 20:03, Svante Signell wrote:
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 17:38 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
Upstream developers in various projects increasingly oppose group-based
access, because membership of many desktop stuff groups essentially
means can ssh in and do bad things to a local user. For
Hi,
Thomas Goirand:
If you don't like that depencendy, it's your job to offer a patch
which supports an alternative to that maintainer.
It's not reasonable to tell I'm responsible for all of this.
This you was meant to refer to the collective set of people who want a
supported
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Travis Nickles nickles.tra...@gmail.com
* Package name: antimicro
Version : 2.4
Upstream Author : Travis Nickles nickles.tra...@gmail.com
* URL : https://github.com/Ryochan7/antimicro
* License : GPL
Programming Lang:
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes:
Orthogonal to that, startx is basically terrible. It only works because
/usr/bin/X is setuid root, and that seems Bad™. Also, if you run it from
a virtual console, a locked X screensaver is worthless, because someone
can just switch virtual console with
On Jun 25, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
I used the word Insidious as I would have use Stealth, because it's
happening slowly, without us noticing, that everything in Debian is
being locked with systemd. Soon, we'll have no choice.
This is why you should stop fighting: systemd has won.
http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrcshow_installed=onwant_legend=onwant_ticks=onfrom_date=2014-01-01to_date=hlght_date=date_fmt=%25Y-%25mbeenhere=1
Unfair - because it is in the most cases not on free will.
Everyone using Gnome - and that are a lot of users
On 2014-06-25 14:03:20 -0700 (-0700), Russ Allbery wrote:
This doesn't change anything else that you point out, but that's
why you run startx and then log out of the virtual console.
On my workstations and travel machines I have:
alias x='startxexit'
...in my ~/.bash_aliases file. Works
On Jun 26, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrcshow_installed=onwant_legend=onwant_ticks=onfrom_date=2014-01-01to_date=hlght_date=date_fmt=%25Y-%25mbeenhere=1
Unfair - because it is in the most cases not on free
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 03:22:50AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Jun 26, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Yaroslav Halchenko deb...@onerussian.com
* Package name: patchclamp
Version : 1.0
Upstream Author : Vadim Alexeenko v.a.alexee...@gmail.com
* URL : http://patchclamp.net
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C++
Hey guys,
I'm looking into leveraging or creating a tool which can identify
non-free artifacts that should be removed as part of a debian package.
The tool would be used for java projects. Does such exist?
In order to create one, I would first need to figure out what kind of
artifacts are
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Andrew Schurman wrote:
I'm looking into leveraging or creating a tool which can identify
non-free artifacts that should be removed as part of a debian package.
You should clarify what you mean by non-free in this situation;
* artefacts under licenses that
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes:
On 06/25/2014 03:59 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 25 juin 2014 à 14:29 +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
Do you know any other package like systemd, with a non-negligible amount
of users willing to *not* have it installed, but which is always
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