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On 19/04/18 03:11, Stephan Seitz wrote:
Can you please give an example for the sorting difference in different
locales if you only have english words (and I would say it means only
ASCII in this case)?
In the C locale, all uppercase letters are sorted before all lowercase
letters:
$ echo
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Hello,
There is currently some momentum to make espeak-ng able to use mbrola
voices. I am thus uploading them to Debian. Here is the list of ITPs:
Bug#896026: Acknowledgement (ITP: mbrola-ar1 -- Arabic male voice for Mbrola)
Bug#896027: Acknowledgement (ITP: mbrola-ar2 -- Arabic male voice for
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Hi Gunnar,
> > Can you please give an example for the sorting difference in different
> > locales if you only have english words (and I would say it means only ASCII
> > in this case)?
[…]
> But... Ok, lets stick to 7-bit ASCII as defined. When I was in primary
> school, "ch" and "ll" were
Hi Christoph,
> First, Dom asked for the analysis that led to my number of somewhat
> 1450 affected packages. He got this in private, a refined version
> below, it boils down to: Any package with a @lists.alioth.debian.org
> address in Maintainer: is affected if and only if the localpart of that
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:14:50AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> >
> >yes, sorting depends on the locale... :)
>
> specifically, what locale sorts english words differently than LANG=C?
Czech (cs_CZ) for one.
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:14:50AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > > > Please define "sorted
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On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 01:00:08PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Adrian Bunk writes ("Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW
> process"):
>...
> > What happens outside of our archive (e.g. in Ubuntu or .debian.net)
> > is nothing we officially provide to our users.
>
> I don't agree, but
Matthew Crews writes:
> As far as diacritics go, American English is practically devoid of
> them. Where they are present, native (American) English speakers
> basically ignore them, so the words résumé (n) and resume (v) share the
> same spot in any given English
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:19:05AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Stephan Seitz dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:11:47PM +0200]:
On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > really? there's more than one alphabetical
Matthew Crews dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 01:10:06PM -0400]:
> On April 18, 2018 9:19 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > But why would ü not be part of the sorting? Yes, that was my example
> > before you censored my thought process - In Spanish, [áéíóú] and
> > [aeiou] share the same
On April 18, 2018 9:19 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> But why would ü not be part of the sorting? Yes, that was my example
> before you censored my thought process - In Spanish, [áéíóú] and
> [aeiou] share the same spot while ordering, as do ñ and n, as do u and
> ü (and we have no
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:00:51PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Instead, tools grew to tolerate commas here rather than treat them as
> separators (because they would mishandle the erroneous packages).
Is this the main problem with fixing the Policy? Does someone have a plan
with this?
--
WBR,
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Athos Ribeiro dijo [Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 06:31:31PM -0300]:
> (...)
> I can not change what had happened here but I hope we can put this
> behind us and move forward.
>
> @debian-devel:
>
> I am sorry my past actions have been taking so much time of everyone
> else, which could be put into
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 03:19:51PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible I/O
> > > tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that Lucas
> > > removed you as a maintainer.
> >
> > But that didn't happen, unless you put
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:13:08PM +0200, Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
> Team maintained packages usually have team's name and mailing list in
> the "Maintainer:" field and possibly multiple "Uploaders:".
Sure. And either they convey some info with that (like Python teams do) or
not.
And somebody
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Stephan Seitz dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:11:47PM +0200]:
> On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
> > yes, sorting depends on the
Hello,
On Wed, Apr 18 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Personally I would prefer to manage maintainership via a separate
> database to the archive, perhaps tracker. Something would have to
> automatically generate Maintainer and/or Uploaders for the benefit of
> old consumers.
I think we all want
Chris Lamb dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:52:18PM +0100]:
> (...)
> Whilst this is not the most egregious example, I am not enjoying
> this recent trend of almost-immediately escalating issues to our
> mailing lists.
>
> As has been pointed out elsewhere, people make mistakes in
> technical
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Sean Whitton writes ("Re: problems in gjots2 and Debian"):
> [stuff]
I don't object to any of that.
Personally I would prefer to manage maintainership via a separate
database to the archive, perhaps tracker. Something would have to
automatically generate Maintainer and/or Uploaders for the
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Hello Ian,
On Wed, Apr 18 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
> IMO it would be better to abolish Uploaders in favour of fixing the
> original spec bug in Maintainers. Also, easier, because as a
> practical matter, there is a lot of software that will fail if it
> fails to find a Maintainer field but
On 4/18/18 5:58 AM, Joel Cross wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, at 6:25 PM, Daniele Nicolodi wrote:
>> On 4/17/18 8:57 AM, Joel Cross wrote:
>>> Package: wnpp
>>> Severity: wishlist
>>> Owner: Joel Cross
>>>
>>> * Package name: python-base58
>>> Version :
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On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:14:50 -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
specifically, what locale sorts english words differently than LANG=C?
Since English words (or texts) can have 8bit characters you may get
a different sorting in in different locales.
If you mean ASCII words I don’t know of any
On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
yes, sorting depends on the locale... :)
Can you please give an example for the sorting difference in
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> Please define "sorted order", not everybody order letters the same way.
really? there's more than one
On 04/18/2018 05:01 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-04-18 at 10:53, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 10:45 -0400, The Wanderer wrote
>>
>>> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>
But that didn't happen, unless you put different meaning into
Maintainer
Am Mittwoch, den 18.04.2018, 14:55 +0500 schrieb Andrey Rahmatullin:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible
> > I/O tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that
> > Lucas removed you
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The Wanderer writes ("Re: problems in gjots2 and Debian"):
> If it really is intended that the listed Maintainer be on an equal
> footing with any and all listed Uploaders, and there's no semantic
> difference between these fields - just the arbitrary limitation that one
> of them can't have more
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On 2018-04-18 at 10:53, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 10:45 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>>> But that didn't happen, unless you put different meaning into
>>> Maintainer and Uploaders.
>>
>> If you don't assign different
The Wanderer writes ("Re: problems in gjots2 and Debian"):
> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > But that didn't happen, unless you put different meaning into
> > Maintainer and Uploaders.
>
> If you don't assign different meanings to "Maintainer:" and
> "Uploaders:", what's the
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On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 10:45 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> >
> > > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible
> > > I/O tester) I can certainly
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > Please define "sorted order", not everybody order letters the same way.
> really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
yes, sorting depends
On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
>> As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible
>> I/O tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that
>> Lucas removed you as a maintainer.
>
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
Please define "sorted order", not everybody order letters the same way.
really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
Mike Stone
On 2018-04-17 22:34, Christoph Biedl wrote:
> Also, choosing the names in sorted order (modulo wraparound) would
> create a list in historic order of the releases, easing some assessment
> when talking about releases. That's what Ubuntu does, although using
Please define "sorted order", not
Roberto C. Sánchez (2018-04-18):
> I have, on occasion, written messages that I later (sometimes even
> immediately) regretted. What has worked well for me and helped prevent
> me from initiating or compounding situations like those you point out
> is this process:
>
> - Get
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Hi Andrey.
Andrey Rahmatullin - 18.04.18, 11:55:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible I/O
> > tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that Lucas
> > removed you as a maintainer.
>
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