Bug#642005: general: maximum size of SHM memory blocks to low

2011-09-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
reassign 642005 live-config severity 642005 wishlist thanks On Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Yami Shi wrote: Package: general Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable We use that severity+justification when a bug in a package makes the package ITSELF unusable. Configuration errors are

Re: Bug#642005: general: maximum size of SHM memory blocks to low

2011-09-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Evgeni Golov wrote: On 09/18/2011 04:46 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Reassigning to Debian live-config, please reassign elsewhere if innapropriate. Note that non-live Debian installs have fairly large SHM limits (kernel default, which is half your RAM

Re: kernel.org compromised

2011-09-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011, Bastian Blank wrote: On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 06:05:01PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Our kernels are not a problem. The Debian mirror in mirrors.kernel.org, on the other hand... While the apt signature will protect users downloading packages through

Re: kernel.org compromised

2011-09-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2011-09-02, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011, Bastian Blank wrote: On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 06:05:01PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Our kernels are not a problem. The Debian mirror

Re: kernel.org compromised

2011-09-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
(debian-kernel dropped from CC, since our kernels have already been reported to be safe elsewhere in the thread). On Thu, 01 Sep 2011, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Any knowledge how far Debian's kernels and sources are concerned by this? Do you guys take them from git, or from the kernel.org

Re: dar-static build failure

2011-08-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Brian May wrote: On 27 August 2011 06:38, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: And I do think it is at least a serious bug for libgpg-error-dev to drop its static lib when there are rdepends that require it (dar).  But I am not sure about this one

Re: dar-static build failure

2011-08-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, Brian May wrote: The dar package is accumulating a number of easy to fix bugs, however due to a change in another package, it will no longer build anymore. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=632889 The only thing I can find in the changelog is from a

Re: Bug#638322: nfs-common: rpc.statd binds to udp port 631 preventing cups startup

2011-08-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Russell Coker wrote: On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: It seems to me that the only problem is if you run multiple instances of a daemon on different ports and don't use /etc/bindresvport.blacklist, SE Linux, or some other method of

Re: Bug#638322: nfs-common: rpc.statd binds to udp port 631 preventing cups startup

2011-08-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Andreas Barth wrote: * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh (h...@debian.org) [110820 14:39]: Yes. And we can easily maintain a current one for Debian-packaged software, although the initial build of such a blacklist will take some work. Actually, the existing interface

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011, Andreas Barth wrote: Resulting packages All binary packages built need to be functionally working, and follow the standard for packages on ftp-master. This means they could e.g. miss documentation (as long as they are not RC-buggy, i.e. they need to have changelog and

Re: O: openMSX and related packages

2011-07-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Joost Yervante Damad wrote: I just orphaned openMSX and related packages: openmsx, openmsx-catapult, openmsx-debugger, pasmo, cbios. Anyone interested in taking over might want to look at them as a cluster. Hmmm, it has been a long time since I paid attention to my

Re: ESA Summer of Code in Space 2011

2011-07-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 20:12 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011, Paul Wise wrote: Does Debian have any space related software? Yes. Do you know of any specific packages? apt-cache shows a lot of them, keywords orbital

Re: ESA Summer of Code in Space 2011

2011-07-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Maxime Chatelle m...@gmx.com wrote: This annonce may be interresting. :) It's a gsoc-like, but by european space agency. http://sophia.estec.esa.int/socis2011/ Does Debian have any space related software? Yes. If

Accepted rng-tools 2-unofficial-mt.14-1 (source amd64)

2011-06-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:12:54 -0300 Source: rng-tools Binary: rng-tools Architecture: amd64 source Version: 2-unofficial-mt.14-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed

Accepted intel-microcode 0.20110428-1 (source amd64)

2011-06-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Description: intel-microcode - Processor microcode data file for Intel CPUs Changes: intel-microcode (0.20110428-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New upstream data file: microcode-20110428 + New Microcodes: sig 0x000206a7, pf mask 0x12, 2011-04-07

Re: Bug#630977: ITP: raccoon -- preparation for ligand screening projects

2011-06-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Milan P. Stanic wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-19 at 20:28, Paul Wise wrote: On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Steffen Moeller wrote: * Package name    : raccoon That is one letter away from racoon, the IPsec IKE keying daemon. I wonder if that would be too confusing of

Bug#630920: RFH: rng-tools -- Daemon to use a Hardware TRNG

2011-06-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the rng-tools package. I am upstream for the package, but it needs downstream-care which I have not been providing it with due to limited time. The package description is: The rngd daemon acts as a bridge between a Hardware

Re: more about Zookeeper

2011-06-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 12 iun 11, 21:44:37, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: #602694 needs to stay open and blocking zookeeper from Squeeze until it has a maintainer team that is confident they will be able to handle the stable support and also confident

Re: more about Zookeeper

2011-06-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
retitle 626020 zookeeper: incorrect dependency information thanks On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Ted Dunning wrote: I just looked at this bug and it looks like a configuration error in the environment rather than a bug in Zookeeper per se. In particular, Java = 1.6 is an explicit requirement of the

Re: more about Zookeeper

2011-06-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: The interested party might also not know how packages are maintained in Debian. And I don't think it is helpful to threaten upstream with removal of his software from Debian, certainly not in the first answer. Please be a bit less aggressive. Eh,

Re: more about Zookeeper

2011-06-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Ted Dunning wrote: Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com writes: There has been a bit of talk about Apache Zookeeper recently by Thomas Koch.  He has a bad opinion of Zookeeper and things it is not good enough for Debian. Could you please provide a reference? How

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 11-06-05 at 05:39am, Vincent Bernat wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream provided tarballs, then put aside autotools-generated files, then autogenerate myself, and in the clean rule

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 11-06-05 at 09:48am, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2011, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 11-06-05 at 05:39am, Vincent Bernat wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 30 May 2011, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 30, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: There are likely to be many programs and build scripts that test for a kernel version prefix of '2.6' vs '2.4' and will behave incorrectly when they find '3.0'. Others require that there are at

Re: bug reporting workflow is outdated

2011-05-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Paul Wise wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote: The only advantage of this would be for systems that firewall outgoing mail conections but allow http or have a http proxy but no smarthost. There are a *lot* of ISPs that

Re: Bug#609690: Debian x86 32-bits built for i586 !?

2011-05-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 17 May 2011, Matthias Klose wrote: Assuming we can't just do away with i486 support for now, did anyone track down exactly what was causing breakages that forced the change from march=486 to march=586? libgomp assumes 586; there were some GFortran/OMP issues on i386. assumes 586 is

Re: [pkg-cryptsetup-devel] Bug#626641: cryptsetup: bug #587220 re-introduced

2011-05-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 17 May 2011, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: For that reason, the situation that initscripts are still around but the daemon/application they start/stop/whatever isn't, is quite common. And it would be absurd if initscripts would exit wit $? != 0 in that case. Here the problem is

Re: Bug#626641: cryptsetup: bug #587220 re-introduced

2011-05-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 17 May 2011, Jonas Meurer wrote: I tire of this thread. There are apparently bugs in the initscripts, well, if that's correct, just get them fixed. Then, the package will not allow itself to be removed with crypt disks still active in the first place. It'd have to switch to

Re: [pkg-cryptsetup-devel] Bug#626641: Bug#626641: cryptsetup: bug #587220 re-introduced

2011-05-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 15 May 2011, Jonas Meurer wrote: - But if the package is installed and removed (but not purged) some additional caution should be taken. I'd suggest using e.g. debconf (with a should? We hardly hand-hold our users that much. You have removed the package, all functionality it

Re: Debian x86 32-bits built for i586 !?

2011-05-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 15 May 2011, Mike Hommey wrote: I just found out that gcc is compiled with --with-arch-32=i586, which effectively means it builds with -march=i586 by default (and that it still claims an i486-linux-gnu target). I'm wondering. Is the project at large aware that we're not building for

Re: Debian x86 32-bits built for i586 !?

2011-05-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 15 May 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 09:28 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2011, Mike Hommey wrote: I just found out that gcc is compiled with --with-arch-32=i586, which effectively means it builds with -march=i586 by default

Re: Bug#626641: cryptsetup: bug #587220 re-introduced

2011-05-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 15 May 2011, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: And honestly, I don't see much of a difference with the warnings when removing the running kernel or are there any bigger problems that modules that should be newly loaded would not be found?! An immediate panic makes it impossible for

Re: Bug#626641: cryptsetup: bug #587220 re-introduced

2011-05-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: With the most recent upload (and this is the very reason why I've reopened the bug), you can have the situation (package removed but not pruged) where you say: /etc/init.d/cryptdisks stop and it gives you just $? = 0, as

Re: Debian x86 32-bits built for i586 !?

2011-05-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote: I think any claim that Debian supports 486-class processors is more of an aspiration. What maintainer has the time to test on such antiques regularly? Well, nobody is running regular kernel regression testing on 486-class hardware AFAIK, and that

Re: /run in *unstable*: migration of /lib/init/rw, /dev/.*

2011-05-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 14 May 2011, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Kurt Roeckx | On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 04:55:01PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: | Packages using /etc |/etc/adjtime | | That file should probably not be in /etc in the first place, | but be somewhere under /var/lib. Since FHS 2.2 it even

Re: Writing to /etc/ from a privileged UI

2011-05-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 11 May 2011, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: Sorry but if you alternate physical possession of a laptop with someone whom you suspect of being hostile, no files are secure as long as they're stored on that laptop. This is not necessarily the case if a per-user encrypted filestore, such

Accepted autotools-dev 20110511.1 (source all)

2011-05-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 04:41:20 -0300 Source: autotools-dev Binary: autotools-dev Architecture: source all Version: 20110511.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed

Re: Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6 in wheezy as default?

2011-05-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 09 May 2011, Vincent Danjean wrote: On 08/05/2011 17:33, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: i currently wonder if Debian should implement RFC 4941 as default for wheezy. [...] I would like to hear other developers meanings to this issue, before proposing this as release goal for wheezy.

Re: Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6 in wheezy as default?

2011-05-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 09 May 2011, Bjørn Mork wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes: We've been trying to avoid that kind of bad practice here in Brazil, through an effort to get ISPs to undertand you do NOT issue /64 to clients in the various NANOG-like (locally called GTER

Accepted autotools-dev 20110508.1 (source all)

2011-05-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 19:44:58 -0300 Source: autotools-dev Binary: autotools-dev Architecture: source all Version: 20110508.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 07 May 2011, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org schrieb: Yes. I think it was Cyrus IMAP that required -I in places where autoreconf doesn't reach, so I called each tool separately. Which is obviously a problem in autoreconf. Is it really

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 07 May 2011, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | The problem is that autoreconf offers NO command line options for you to | pass the required -I parameters for aclocal, nor is there a way to encode | that information in the one place where it could conveniently live | (configure.ac) AFAIK.

Re: wheel group

2011-05-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 06 May 2011, Stanisław Findeisen wrote: Because we do not enable pam_wheel by default, so it is not needed by default. Heh, that's what this question is about. :-) Then ask it directly :-p Restricting certain privileges (like su root) to certain users only looks more secure than

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 06 May 2011, Chris Warburton wrote: Hi Scott. ocPortal isn't massively widespread compared to other systems, so there's obviously less experimental proof of security. We had a security hole a few years ago; this was before I got involved, but there's details here

Re: wheel group

2011-05-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 06 May 2011, Stanisław Findeisen wrote: Why is there no wheel group by default in Debian GNU/Linux? Because we do not enable pam_wheel by default, so it is not needed by default. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness

Re: limits for package name and version (MBF alert: ... .deb filenames)

2011-04-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, James Vega wrote: Why assume the first version will be = 1.x? It's not uncommon to use 0.x. Using 0~YYMMDD seems a safer option to reduce the chance of needing an epoch if/when upstream starts using actual version numbers. The 0.DATE thing is from before we had support

Re: limits for package name and version (MBF alert: ... .deb filenames)

2011-04-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Uoti Urpala wrote: This branch of the thread was NOT about packages that use date ONLY. Maybe that's what you were confused about above? The version would still need the last release name too, as in 15.3.2~rc3+svn2005010112. The two possibilities showed up in the

Re: Berkeley DB plan for future

2011-04-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Ondřej Surý wrote: 4. Build-Depends - Depends (aka invalid listing in Build-Depends) http://wiki.debian.org/BerkeleyDB/InvalidBuild-Depends Packages in list 4 should be fixed because it means either one of: 1. The Build-Depends listing is erroneous (f.e. upstream

Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-04-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Julian Andres Klode wrote: I hereby request comments on changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}. The reason is simple: When we upload a new version of APT, depending on a newer library version (due to new symbols, whatever), and APT gets

Re: limits for package name and version (MBF alert: ... .deb filenames)

2011-04-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Uoti Urpala wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh hmh at debian.org writes: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Adam Borowski wrote: Telling someone the bug is in a version I pulled from the VCS but didn't bother noting down which version it was is not very useful. Now you're

Re: limits for package name and version (MBF alert: ... .deb filenames)

2011-04-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 26/04/2011 01:50, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Anyway - Summing up what I'm saying here, tags have a clear meaning: A point where upstream wants us to base our efforts at, mid-devel-cycle breakage should be at a minimum. So, instead of basing our packages

Re: limits for package name and version (MBF alert: ... .deb filenames)

2011-04-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Adam Borowski wrote: Telling someone the bug is in a version I pulled from the VCS but didn't bother noting down which version it was is not very useful. Now you're being silly. All you need is the proper date and time to use as a version (for ordering), and a proper

Re: limits for package name and version (MBF alert: ... .deb filenames)

2011-04-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: [Followup-To: nach gmane.linux.debian.devel.general gesetzt.] Philipp Kern tr...@philkern.de schrieb: [Followup-To: header set to gmane.linux.debian.devel.general.] On 2011-04-23, Dominic Hargreaves d...@earth.li wrote: On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at

Re: limits for package name and version (MBF alert: ... .deb filenames)

2011-04-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk (23/04/2011): I would like to see policy forbid the use of commit hashes in versions. They aren't ordered, and the information about exactly which commit the snapshot was can be included in the changelog.

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On pe, 2011-04-15 at 21:58 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Symlinks in system path components REALLY are best avoided. Out of curiosity: why? Because not everything is blind to what it is transversing to get to the inode a path refers

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: { find var/run/ ! -type d -print0; \ find var/lock/ ! -type d -print0; } | xargs -0r $_CHROOT_SH rm I'm afraid this will need fixing in util-vserver(?) though. We can't work around this in initscripts postinst, I'm afraid, since it worked

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:59:01PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: { find var/run/ ! -type d -print0; \ find var/lock/ ! -type d -print0; } | xargs -0r $_CHROOT_SH rm I'm afraid

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: /etc/adjtime This needs to survive reboots, and it is also needed early in the boot. It is used to correct the RTC syndrome. I am

Re: MBF alert: packages with very long source / .deb filenames

2011-03-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 09:54:49AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Steve McIntyre wrote: I think so. The package with long names tend to follow a naming policy that sort of imposes the long name... so if we put a too

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: /etc/adjtime This needs to survive reboots, and it is also needed early in the boot. It is used to correct the RTC syndrome. I am at a loss about how it could be made compatible with RO /. /etc/hosts.deny (written by denyhosts, hence

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: /etc/adjtime This needs to survive reboots, and it is also needed early in the boot. It is used to correct the RTC syndrome. I am at a loss about how it could be made compatible

Re: MBF alert: packages with very long source / .deb filenames

2011-03-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Steve McIntyre wrote: I think so. The package with long names tend to follow a naming policy that sort of imposes the long name... so if we put a too-short limit then we're asking them to make an exception in the naming policy. So what's a reasonable name length limit

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: /etc/adjtime This needs to survive reboots, and it is also needed early in the boot. It is used to correct the RTC syndrome. I am at a loss about how it could be made compatible with RO /. /etc/hosts.deny (written by denyhosts, hence that one

Re: Meeting Minutes, FTPMaster meeting March 2011

2011-03-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Monday 28 March 2011 19:43:52 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: So, we have to either accept source-only uploads with the knowledge that some people will upload even more crap, or don't accept source-only uploads at all

Re: Meeting Minutes, FTPMaster meeting March 2011

2011-03-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 03/28/2011 04:37 PM, Mark Hymers wrote: The main decision which needs to be made is whether, as a project, we want source only uploads or to throw away DD built non-all debs. There's not entire agreement amongst the ftpmasters about this (I err

GIT for pdiff generation (was: Meeting Minutes, FTPMaster meeting March 2011)

2011-03-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011, Joerg Jaspert wrote: - As there have been intermittent problems with the current tool which generates the pdiff files (on occasion causing us to have to restart the whole diff series), we looked into improving the situation. We finally came up with the idea to store

Re: GIT for pdiff generation

2011-03-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Right now the source contents of unstable has, unpacked, 220MB. (Packed gzip its 28MB, while the binary contents per have each have 18MB packed). That should not be a problem in any non-joke box. Unless you'll run it in a memory-constrained vm or

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Paul Wise wrote: Does your autogen.sh script ever become anything more than calling autoreconf with some specific options? Yes. I think it was Cyrus IMAP that required -I in places where autoreconf doesn't reach, so I called each tool separately. Which is obviously a

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Andreas Tille wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 04:09:25PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Agreed. That would usually not be something that would cause enough problems for a new tar.gz to be warranted though. I just accept your opinion that repackaging is not warranted and I did

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Andreas Tille wrote: Assume please the following: 1. Unpack upstream source, copy debian/ dir into it 2. make -f debian/rules clean You should have looked for a get-orig-sources target, first. You just skipped any orig source conditioning the maintainer had to do.

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Sean Finney wrote: autofoo stuff examines timestamps on various files, so it's possible that if configure gets patched before configure.ac, and AM_MAINTAINER_MODE is set to a specific value, that ./configure ends up wanting to regenerate ./configure at build time. double

Re: Speeding up dpkg, a proposal

2011-03-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Russell Coker wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote: On a machine with lots of RAM (== disk cache...) and high I/O load, you don't want to do a (global!) sync(). This can totally kill the machine for 20min or more and is a big no

Re: Mirror problems?

2011-03-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Julien Cristau wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 17:52:31 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: And for packages you either have to do stable updates all the time, or add an additional repository, or use unstable on a server. Whatever you prefer. Not to mention debian mirrors

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Josue Abarca wrote: What about?: From: /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz Example autogen.sh and debian/rules files can be found in /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/examples. Do not use them as-is. Rather, properly customize your own. And look at the dates of

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Neil Williams wrote: On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:35:59 + Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:55:54PM +, Neil Williams wrote: Other tools, like svn-buildpackage, don't have this problem, via the mergeWithUpstream support and/or a

Re: Pushing tzdata updates to stable in time

2011-03-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: On Fri Mar 11, 2011 at 13:11:52 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: I was prodded by my Chilean friend, Germán Póo-Caamaño, to help find a way to push the tzdata corrections needed for Chile's change of timezone plans. Trying to do so, I found he already

Re: Pushing tzdata updates to stable in time

2011-03-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 16:54 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: On Fri Mar 11, 2011 at 13:11:52 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Chile was supposed to leave the Summer daylight savings period

Re: Bug#615476: general: many binaries are linked with non-existent libtiff.so.3 library

2011-03-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh | Actually, we usually use it to *remove* bogus rpath, but hey, it would | be a poor tool if it couldn't be used to add a proper rpath :) It doesn't know how to add an rpath, just change or remove one. Patches

What else needs to know about armhf?

2011-02-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 03:29:05PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 02:41:32PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: If you ask me, I would say that providing a magic for file(1) as I said on debian-arm[1] would be more useful

Bug#615476: general: many binaries are linked with non-existent libtiff.so.3 library

2011-02-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, Olaf van der Spek wrote: places.  So if you want /usr/local/bin binaries to see /usr/local/lib by default (that's what Debian and other Linux systems do, on purpose), then all your system binaries will see them too.  Anyway, it's not a bug or even really a design flaw

Bug#615476: general: many binaries are linked with non-existent libtiff.so.3 library

2011-02-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Sure. But Sergey has a good point: why are there no bin and lib inside /home so normal users can safely install software without risking AFAIK, there are strong security concerns. You cannot have unprotected directories in the default linker paths.

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Joey Hess wrote: Russ Allbery wrote: Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org writes: Right. For now I undo this (with next dinstall run), until either one of the following happens: - lenny is gone and the tools are fixed in squeeze with a point update (provided

Re: Make Unicode bugs release critical? (was: Re: RFA: all my packages)

2011-02-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Josselin Mouette wrote: You must specify the encoding of your data in your bitstreams. I agree this is inconvenient (and one of the things I dislike in Python), but it is: 1. completely independent of the locale (UTF8 or not) 2. easy to work with once you

Re: Upstart and sysvinit in packages - Policy needed

2011-02-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: That would mean limiting each init system to the limitations of the most limited init system, which would be a sad state of affairs. Also, I Yes. So, we also have to set where we want the low bar. don't believe there's a 1:1 correspondence between

Cross-check autobuilt binary pkg with maintainer-provided pkg

2011-02-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011, brian m. carlson wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 06:00:11PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: That's something I don't understand. If I upload a broken package, why should it be the buildd admin's job to deal with it? Should not I get notified of the error, and told to fix

Re: Make Unicode bugs release critical?

2011-02-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Lars Wirzenius wrote: However, I'm curious: is there a lot of software that is broken with Unicode, particularly with the UTF-8 encoding? I can't remember anything much in recent times. 1. Stuff that cannot do one of UTF-8, UTF-16 or UCS-4. 2. Anything that cannot deal

Re: Make Unicode bugs release critical?

2011-02-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 08:16:54PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: 2. Anything that cannot deal with Supplementary planes. This includes the use of UCS-2 instead of UTF-16, as it cannot represent the Supplementary planes. python

Re: The node command in Debian

2011-02-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011, John Goerzen wrote: On 02/08/2011 05:04 PM, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Similar AX.25 tools call and listen were renamed in 2007 to ax* (package ax25-apps), because those names were too generic (according to the changelog). ... resulting in considerable confusion from many

Re: The node command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 07 Feb 2011, Jonathan Nieder wrote: As you may know[0], there are currently two packages in Debian experimental providing a node binary. [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/08/msg00568.html ... One is from the node.js project. It was renamed from server to node on March

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-02-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: On Mon, January 31, 2011 18:09, Christian PERRIER wrote: However, upstream's policy in their stable branches is alway to only fix important bugs (they don't call them this way...but the definition is fairly close to Debian's). So, *in the case of

Bug#611133: ITP: iucode-tool -- Intel Processor microcode tool

2011-01-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org * Package name: iucode-tool Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org * URL : none yet * License : GPL v2 or later Programming Lang: C

Re: symbol patterns in .symbols files prior to dpkg-1.15.6

2011-01-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Alternatively, version of dpkg could be lowered and functionality conditioned on the version of dpkg (thus implementing necessary logic to support older versions), it would imho be better and more flexible to please those backport-lovers, saving

Accepted intel-microcode 0.20101123-1 (source amd64)

2011-01-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Description: intel-microcode - Processor microcode data file for Intel CPUs Changes: intel-microcode (0.20101123-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New upstream data file: microcode-20101123 + New Microcodes: sig 0x06fb, pf mask 0x20, 2010-10-03

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2011-01-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Ted, Thanks for the reply and detailed analysis. Which gets me back to the question of use cases. When are we going to be using this monster? For many use cases, where the original reason Where implicit rollbacks are desireable, I suppose. It is incompatible with edit-in-place, anyway.

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2011-01-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011, Ted Ts'o wrote: And of course, Olaf isn't actually offerring to implement this hypothetical O_ATOMIC. Oh, no! He's just petulently demanding it, even though he can't give us any concrete use cases where this would actually be a huge win over a userspace safe-write

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2011-01-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: Olaf, O_ATOMIC is difficult in the kernel sense and in the long run.  It is an API that is too hard to implement in a sane way, with too many boundary conditions

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2010-12-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Ah, hehe. BTW, care to respond to the mail I send to you? There is nothing more I can add to this thread. You want O_ATOMIC. It cannot be implemented for all use cases of the POSIX API, so it will not be implemented by the kernel. That's all there

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2010-12-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Writing a temp file, fsync, rename is often proposed. However, the It is: write temp file (in same directory as file to be replaced), fsync temp file[1], rename (atomic), fsync directory[2]. [1] Makes sure file data has been commited to backend

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2010-12-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote:  write temp file (in same directory as file to be replaced), fsync temp What if the target name is actually a symlink? To a different volume? Indeed. You have

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2010-12-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010, Olaf van der Spek wrote: The reason I asked for a kernelland solution is because it's hard if not impossible to do properly in userland. But some kernel devs (Ted and others) don't agree. They reason that the desire to preserve all meta-data isn't reasonable by itself. It

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