Meetings archive set up and online

2005-09-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, I'm pleased to announce the permanent availability of an archive in which Debian can preserve materials (video, audio, slides, example code used, etc.) gathered, used at or derived from real life meetings. It is located at http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/ and

etch release plan (was Re: congratulations to our ftp-master team)

2005-12-16 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thursday 15 December 2005 18:06, A Mennucc wrote: In my opinion, considering that the release of etch is 15 months away, Please don't consider this :) No matter whether it's a lack of knowledge or disbelieving in the etch release plan (a la it's scheduled for december so it will become

yet another mass bug filing on GFDL issues ?

2006-01-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, no, this is not really about the GFDL issue currently discussed, but about using the unmodified GFDL template in debian/copyright. Besides not being able to tell who has the copyright, it makes it also impossible to tell if there are invariant sections and/or cover texts. Lots of packages

Summary / new quik available (was Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-12-03 Thread Holger Levsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver has made some new updates to the quik - you can get it (.deb and source) at the http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/ changes include: - manpage tells about initrd - compiles with gcc3 - sprintf bug fixed - ANS raid

Re: Summary / new quik available (was Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-12-06 Thread Holger Levsen
quik_2.0e-12.deb (or 2.0f?) ? This is still needed (ASAP) for the d-i/release people to review the changes and to be able to decide wether to allow it into sarge or not... On Friday 03 December 2004 23:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ce jour Fri, 03 Dec 2004, Holger Levsen a dit: i'd appreciate

Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

2005-01-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, first I'd like to thank Kevin for his nice diagram! On Wednesday 05 January 2005 20:38, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Very nice! I expect to use it at some conferences (BTW: Looks like a nice addition to Debian Eyecatcher[1], I'll add it :) ) but then I also got one concern, especially if this

Re: New stable version after Sarge

2005-01-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 08 January 2005 07:45, Christian Perrier wrote: So, if we imagine we release sarge at February 1st (ahah), just immediately announce that etch will enter the first freeze stages (base packages frozen, testing-security checked, d-i frozen) on August 1st. This will give all

Re: german debian mirror with 700mb paris.avi file...

2005-02-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Monday 31 January 2005 20:36, Martin Schulze wrote: Anything but a non-public list/forum/whatever would be fine and better. In fact I have had already informed the admin after a user informed me. Since http://www.debian.org/security/ is about the security in Debian packages

good signature... Re: Diversion of APT tools by dpkg-cross (apt-get,apt-cache,apt-config)

2005-02-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Wednesday 02 February 2005 10:21, Adrian von Bidder wrote: Warning: The signature is bad. Something's broken somewhere... Can anybody confirm so I can stop worrying about my set up? I cannot confirm this, the signature is valid here. I have no valid trust path to the key, but

Re: Moin 1.3.x: Status of the package moin

2005-02-17 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Raphael, you had a typo in Jonas' email address, maybe that's why he didn't answer ? :) regards, Holger On Sunday 13 February 2005 14:04, Raphael Bossek wrote: Hi Jonas, I'm writing you again after my last email was not answered. I would like to help you out packaging moin 1.3.x. Could

Re: adding ddccontrol to debian

2006-05-31 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Wednesday 31 May 2006 01:08, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: The current ITP is not frozen :-) I have a package ready at the moment. However, it only cleanly builds with the version of gcc in Sarge. I have been assured by upstream that a new release is forthcoming which fixes the build

Re: Debconf videos (was: cdrtools)

2006-07-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Monday 10 July 2006 10:20, Frans Pop wrote: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/ But most are still missing there :-( I am painfully aware of this. And I am doing and have been doing what I can do, which is not much (*). There is some light on the horizon now, so

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 29 July 2006 08:43, Christian Perrier wrote: And get a very nice random theme for gdm, making the system different each time it's booted up. Very user friendly. I agree with Christian. Quite some people will be confused by this, and it's completly unnecessary to have a random

debconf5 - videos of the talks and BOFs available

2005-07-17 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, the mighty video team, in boring alphabetical order (but you who where there know who they are), Andrew McMillan, Chris Halls, Erik Johansson, Henning Sprang, Herman Robak, Holger Levsen, Javier Candeira, John Lightsey, Kalle Boess, Martin Langhoff, Noel Koethe, Peter de Schrijver, Tore S

Re: Work-needing packages report for Sep 2, 2005

2005-09-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 02 September 2005 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Something is wrong with this list: The following packages have been

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating wiki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

2005-09-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Tuesday 06 September 2005 01:13, Jon Dowland wrote: I would like to make a desperate plee that some attempt is made to incorporate a clear indication of the licence under which material on this wiki is available under, either with a user-readable prompt or machine-readable metadata

Re: wiki.debian.net?

2005-09-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Monday 26 September 2005 23:39, Peter Samuelson wrote: Don't know why, but the content is supposed to be moving to wiki.debian.org real soon now. For moving the contents help is still needed (perl skills prefered), please see http://wiki.debian.org/MigrationStatus regards,

Re: Bug#331072: ITP: cinelerra-cvs -- non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux.

2005-10-05 Thread Holger Levsen
situation. Have those issues been addressed ? (Yes, i'm too lazy to check this myself now. Thats why I'm asking the people who should know whether they did that work ;) Are you in touch with Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]? We talked about Cinelerra at the QA miniconf and I sent him a list

please provide releasenotes (Re: Release update: editorial changes to the testing propagation scripts)

2005-05-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: www.debian.org Hi, On Tuesday 03 May 2005 21:46, Steve Langasek posted a fine mail about a fine change (thanks for both to whom it may apply). Whohoo! :-) Regarding testing upgrades from woody, I would like to propose mentioning more visible that the suggested upgrade tool is

Re: Bug#307570: please provide releasenotes (Re: Release update: editorial changes to the testing propagation scripts)

2005-05-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Javier, On Wednesday 04 May 2005 13:49, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: This might be related to the fact the they're somewhat hidden, at least to ./google sarge releasenotes - http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/releasenotes isn't helpful atm either. Why not? Isn't

Re: Changes to the weekly WNPP posting

2005-05-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thursday 19 May 2005 18:43, Martin Michlmayr wrote: What do other people think of this? Do you want a shorter WNPP posting with only new entries on -devel? less frequent, maybe every four weeks ? i've got wnpp-alert in my cron for weekly mails - if people reaaally care, they can put

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thursday 02 June 2005 07:13, Matt Zimmerman wrote: If Ian were to approach Ubuntu (rather than, say, Slashdot) with clear and genuine concerns, I would be more than willing to discuss the situation with him to explain what we're doing and why. Ian posted this to his blog, not to

Re: kernel security bug #307900

2005-06-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 10 June 2005 04:02, Adam Majer wrote: woody's kernels are vulnerable to CAN-2004-1235, a uselib() race condition. Will this be fixed for Woody? I thought the plan was to provide security support for Woody for another year? AFAIK, there is no security support for Woody

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Freitag, 20. März 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: The kernel team seems to have a full waiver for listing copyright holders. AFAIK linux-kbuild-2.6.28 was rejected from NEW for this very reason. regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Luk, On Freitag, 20. März 2009, Luk Claes wrote: Below a list of packages/maintainers that use ifconfig/route/netstat: How did you create that list? You seem to be missing a few.. ifconfig + route sitesummary netstat --- munin ifconfig fai

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Luk, On Samstag, 21. März 2009, Luk Claes wrote: Below a list of packages/maintainers that use ifconfig/route/netstat: How did you create that list? You seem to be missing a few.. By looking at dependency relations with the net-tools package. I guess some packages use net-tools if

munin-plugin enhances.. (Re: net-tools future

2009-03-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Jonas, On Samstag, 21. März 2009, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: plugin. We dont want to suggest asterisk just because there is a plugin to monitor it :) Why not? The purpose of Suggests: is exactly to declare non-important relationship. From Policy 7.2: True, but IMO it's the other way

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-21 Thread Holger Levsen
On Samstag, 21. März 2009, Sandro Tosi wrote: Sadly, we are all losing here. yes. *sigh* /me still has to understand what's the point in shooting on ourselves... we are losing! I think it's following binary logic to the end. Which we got trained by using computers but what is very wrong in

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Samstag, 21. März 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Err, isn't munin a hugely complex beasty, that has to be configured for the network, and usually lives on a signle machine and polls others? and does alerting and graphing and is a pain to configure? actually you just do

Re: What happens to snapshot.debian.net?

2009-03-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 22. März 2009, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: What I did the other day was to download the files from the package web page. For lvm2 it's http://snapshot.debian.net/package/lvm2 Well, that works, but there are no snapshots after mid 2008 available... :( regards,

Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 23. März 2009, Neil Williams wrote: Then make an amendment that produces a lower requirement for seconding amendments? sounds like an excellent idea to me, any takers? ;-) regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-25 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 25. März 2009, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Munin ... does not support alerting It does. Directly or via nagios. regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Architecture usertags

2009-03-25 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 25. März 2009, Wouter Verhelst wrote: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Debbugs/ArchchitectureTags I'm not sure renaming-and-redirecting is possible on the wiki; if it is, someone please do so (and sorry for this mess). done :-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Bug#521343: Can't repair a lilo+root-on-LVM system

2009-03-26 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Eddy, On Donnerstag, 26. März 2009, Eddy Petrișor wrote: Two days ago after upgrading the lenny 2.6.26-1-686 kernel I didn't shut down the system, I put it in hibernate. The next day, when I powered the computer, it failed to boot right after loading the kernel and checking the BIOS with

Bug#521343: Can't repair a lilo+root-on-LVM system

2009-03-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Eddy, On Freitag, 27. März 2009, Eddy Petrișor wrote: I agree this was user error. Still, recovering from it should be possible. That's what the BR is about. Well, the problem seems to be that your kernel was installed incorrectly... How is it user error when I try to update the initramfs

Bug#521343: Can't repair a lilo+root-on-LVM system

2009-03-27 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 521343 lilo forcemerge 520645 521343 thanks Bastian signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

grouping of alternative depends

2009-03-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, I'd like to use a depends like (pdns-backend-ldap pdns-recursor) | bind9 but afaik this is not possible. AFAICS I should file a wishbug against dpkg but as I dont have time atm to dig through all the bugs against dpkg, I thought I drop a mail here, in the hope that someone will point me to

Re: grouping of alternative depends

2009-03-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 29. März 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Doesn't this do what you want? Depends: pdns-backend-ldap | bind9, pdns-recursor | bind9 sure, that works and thats what I'm doing now. But it's ugly and redudant and potentially wrong: installing pdns-backend-ldap and bind9

Re: grouping of alternative depends

2009-03-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 29. März 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote: Hm? Your original mail said you wanted: Depends: (pdns-backend-ldap + pdns-recursor) | bind9 How does installing bind9 plus pdns-backend-ldap not satisfy the above? Sure it does satisfy the depends, but installing pdns-backup-ldap is not

Re: Preparing for GTK 3.0 and GNOME 3

2009-04-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, I wonder whether this shouldnt have been on d-d-a. I think it should have :) regards, Holger, now also wondering if I should send this mail in private ;-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: grouping of alternative depends

2009-04-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 30. März 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: The solution to this and similar problems are always, as pointed out by specific solutions in this thread by others, to turn your dependency formula into conjunctive normal form (CNF) [1], which is always possible, though possibly ugly,

Re: Bug#524286: general: kernel modules does not automatically load

2009-04-16 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 524286 udev thanks On Donnerstag, 16. April 2009, Luca Boncompagni wrote: Package: general I try to open this as and udev bug (#524276) but Marco closed it because he think that this is not an udev bug. I'm speechless. (About users filing bugs against the wrong package because the

Re: reassign 524276 to general, forcibly merging 524286 524276, tagging 524276

2009-04-16 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Don, On Donnerstag, 16. April 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: reassign 524276 general forcemerge 524286 524276 tags 524276 moreinfo why did you reassign them to general? why are these bugs a general problem in Debian which is not related to any particular package? (you probably wanted to

Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data (Was: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions)

2009-04-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 21. April 2009, Andreas Tille wrote: There is no point in implementing better markup for the Blends pages if I know from the beginning that I will end up with broken pages for an undetermined time. Perfect is the enemy of good. regards, Holger signature.asc

ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 27. April 2009, Philipp Kern wrote: Interestingly you did it again, ignoring the list Code of Conduct. As it sadly happens many times every day. And as long as there are no means to enforce it (either pure social or aided by technology), it will continue to happen. regards,

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Dear lazylist, On Montag, 27. April 2009, Noah Slater wrote: * The Debian lists do not have a Reply-To header, does someone know why? regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Misc developer news (#15)

2009-05-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Freitag, 1. Mai 2009, Paul Wise wrote: Due to the way pipermail works, removing messages from the archives would break all the URLs. Options for working around this might be: - replacing the content of said mails with a placeholder. regards, Holger signature.asc Description:

Re: deprecating /usr as a standalone filesystem?

2009-05-05 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009, Marco d'Itri wrote: I have been told by upstream maintainers of one of my packages and by prominent developers of other distributions that supporting a standalone /usr is too much work and no other distribution worth mentioning does it (not Ubuntu, not Fedora,

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-05-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 10. Mai 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: With the include approach, we lack this feature and bad/broken local overrides can't be detected if we only have the build log at hand. which reminds me that we dont have build logs for probably a lot more than 25% (*) of the most used

Re: piuparts run by every uploader

2009-07-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, Jonas Meurer wrote: is there any chance to get that fixed by either removing the circular dependency from perl directly or by adding code to manage circular dependencies to piuparts? as a first approach to this problem I plan to make piuparts ignore circular

Bug#506481: please specify more info

2009-08-01 Thread Holger Levsen
tags 506481 -patch +moreinfo retitle 506481 wrong cpu optimisation, please specify more info thanks Hi Mark, as I understand it, this bug report of yours is a bit useless atm, as it specifies a workaround for a non-existing (general) problem, while there is no indication which packages

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: The press team are still announcing [1] this as a decision to adopt the policy of timed release freezes beginning with the next release, while RT maintain that it is under consideration. Which is true? Both! ;-) Or the latter, take

piuparts-MBF: not using invoke-rc.d

2009-08-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, as announced at DebConf9 I'll now (slowly) start threads about different bug categories detected by piuparts, with the aim to agree on mass filing bugs with the correct severity. Having a piuparts clean archive is again a release goal for squeeze, currently

Re: piuparts-MBF: not using invoke-rc.d

2009-08-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi KiBi, On Donnerstag, 6. August 2009, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org (06/08/2009): http://piuparts.debian.org/squeeze/processes_running_error.html and http://piuparts.debian.org/squeeze/processes_running_error.html lists those packages. Identical URLs? Gah

Re: piuparts-MBF: not using invoke-rc.d

2009-08-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Roland, On Donnerstag, 6. August 2009, Roland Mas wrote: Thank you for this effort. I must admit piuparts has been too frightening for me to try, so far. So, in order to comfort me in my laziness, would you consider doing continuous (or regular) runs of piuparts on the whole archive, and

Re: piuparts-MBF: not using invoke-rc.d

2009-08-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 6. August 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: http://wiki.debian.org/piuparts/FAQ I'm subscribed to that page and would like to collect questions and answers there, instead of repeating myself endlessly ;-) That might leave a wrong impression, so let me add: Thanks for asking

Re: piuparts-MBF: not using invoke-rc.d

2009-08-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Jonas, On Donnerstag, 6. August 2009, Jonas Meurer wrote: at least for zope2.1[01]-sandbox, i don't know how to fix that issue. invoking the initscript at postinst/prerm of the -sandbox packages will cause _all_ zope instances on the system to be restarted, and that isn't an option at all.

piuparts-MBF: overwriting other packages files

2009-08-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, as announced yesterday, I will now continue starting threads about different bug categories detected by piuparts, with the aim to agree on mass filing bugs with a sensible severity. Today I picked another simple category: packages which failed the piuparts test because the package tries

Re: piuparts-MBF: overwriting other packages files

2009-08-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Manoj, On Freitag, 7. August 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, Aug 07 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: Today I picked another simple category: packages which failed the piuparts test because the package tries to overwrite another packages files without declaring a conflict or replaces

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 9. August 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: The link to the wiki page was missing http://wiki.debian.org/AutomaticDebugPackages this link was also missing in #508585. regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: piuparts-MBF: overwriting other packages files

2009-08-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Samstag, 8. August 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: So am I correct in my assumption that only file conflicts with packages installed on the once-clean chroot would be detected by the test? Or am I missing something? Yes. for the rest there is edos.debian.net :) Yes, the

Bug#542369: please document how to install suggests

2009-08-19 Thread Holger Levsen
package: apt version: 0.7.22.2 x-debbugs-cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org severity: wishlist On Mittwoch, 19. August 2009, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: Andreas Tille wrote: I even failed to grep man apt-get for the string suggests so I think I can not do something like apt-get

piuparts-MBF: prompting due to modified conffiles which where not modified by the user

2009-08-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, for some packages the piuparts upgrade test failed because dpkg detected a conffile as being modified and then prompted the user for an action. As there is no user input, this fails. But this is not the real problem, the real problem is that this prompt shows up in the first place, as

Re: piuparts-MBF: prompting due to modified conffiles which where not modified by the user

2009-08-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 19. August 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:15:04PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: The logs are linked from http://piuparts.debian.org/squeeze/conffile_prompt_error.html Not harmless at all. These are serious bugs. I'll file those accordingly

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 9. September 2009, Jon Dowland wrote: If this was a popular choice (which it doesn't appear to be); it would be blocked on sorting out the wiki.d.o content licensing. No. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny has a very fine and sosorted licence situation. All

who should cleanup /var/lib/update-rd.d ? should it be cleaned up at all?

2009-09-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, today I noticed that quite many packages fail the piuparts test, because of a file left after purge in /var/lib/update-rd.d - who's responsibility is it to clean this up? Each package? Or? Or shouldn't those be cleaned on purge and piuparts should ignore those files? (I don't think the

Bug#545949: who should cleanup /var/lib/update-rd.d ? should it be cleaned up at all?

2009-09-10 Thread Holger Levsen
package: sysv-rc severity: important x-debbugs-cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org User: debian...@lists.debian.org Usertags: piuparts piuparts.d.o Hi Petter, On Mittwoch, 9. September 2009, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: today I noticed that quite many packages fail the piuparts test, because of

Re: On management

2007-03-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thursday 01 March 2007 22:28, Josselin Mouette wrote: First, please keep your bullshit about dunc-tank outside this otherwise interesting discussion. be liberal what you accept, and conservative what you send? regards, Holger pgpeWcMQwasHw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: co-mentor for a GSoC proposal wanted: debbugs web submission

2007-03-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 16 March 2007 00:49, Steve Langasek wrote: A large fraction of bug reports are bad or incomplete, so you need to ensure that you can contact bug submitters for more information. HTTP doesn't give you a callback mechanism, so you need to be able to tie the web submission back to

Re: co-mentor for a GSoC proposal wanted: debbugs web submission

2007-03-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thursday 22 March 2007 13:55, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Hmmm, if we do that, we could probably start handing out accounts for this web-based bug submission system, so that people who report more than one bug only need to answer once to such a mail. Hmmm, that sounds like we're

Re: release update: d-i schedule, release notes, deep freeze

2007-03-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 23 March 2007 13:54, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: We still have no usable linux-source deb. The prepatched source currently shipped will not build vserver, xen and several archs and the debian patch is not compatible to make-kpkg and it is undocumented how to apply it manualy to

so what can we do to voice our support? (Re: video codecs in HTML 5)

2007-03-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, added -project to to: as its more appropriate there :) On Friday 23 March 2007 18:26, Steve Greenland wrote: That's all true, but if the standard requires (or recommends) MPEG4 support, then that's what everyone will use, and we'll be screwed, again. If we (the Free Software community)

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thursday 12 April 2007 11:03, Reinhard Tartler wrote: Since this inquiry is valid however, it seems to me that it would make sense the think about some CDD specialised for developers. I recently heard about this Debian sid thingy, maybe you give it a try? Seriously, I dont understand.

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

2007-06-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Monday 04 June 2007 10:38, Miriam Ruiz wrote: I can't believe that... gothic fonts are forbidden in Germany by law!!!??? They were merely deprecated, but not forbidden, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiqua-Fraktur_dispute - the german version of that page gives a bit more info.

Re: synchronizing README.Debian with wiki.debian.org

2007-06-26 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 09 June 2007 15:12, Junichi Uekawa wrote: I had an idea and still pondering on it. I wanted to do automatic two-way synchronization with README.Debian and wiki.debian.org Newer moinmoin versions can export to sgmldoc, see for example

Re: synchronizing README.Debian with wiki.debian.org

2007-07-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Monday 02 July 2007 17:45, Jon Dowland wrote: Can someone upload an example of a wikipage, exported as docbook and post-processed? I'm interested to see e.g. what happens to links etc. try http://wiki.skolelinux.no/Dokumentasjon/ITIL/Samleside?action=formatmimetype=xml/docbook or

Re: who are the kernel maintainers?

2007-07-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi debian-kernel ;) for those of you who dont read debian-devel... :-) On Wednesday 04 July 2007 18:14, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: I'm trying to find out who has responsibility for Bug #430646. Thomas, if you think that a bug has fallen under the radar of a maintainers team, why do you send

Re: Targeting RPM and Debian from a Debian box?

2007-07-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 07 July 2007 08:30, Hamish Moffatt wrote: It looks like rpmstrap could build you a suitable chroot (like debootstap for Debian), but from the description it appears to be somewhat outdated (eg Fedora Core 2). mock worked for me to setup Fedora Core 6, haven#t tried 7 yet. O

Re: Installation of Recommends by default on October 1st

2007-08-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Wednesday 01 August 2007 21:46, Neil Williams wrote: And a script to implement that in every box I have to install. Again and Again and Again and Hu? You don't change any other configuration on those boxes? Nothing?? regards, Holger pgps3qpDnM8C4.pgp Description: PGP

ttf-liberation (Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?)

2007-08-17 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thursday 09 August 2007 10:03, Christian Perrier wrote: No, we should use the liberation fonts, which are designed to replace the MS fonts. Have their licensing issues been solved? Have those issues been communicated to upstream and what is their reaction? The ITP includes the

Bug#173829: debuild should have an option to test for this

2008-09-08 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 173829 devscripts thanks Hi, IMHO debuild should have an option to test for this, thus reassigning. regards, Holger pgps1C1REqVOs.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#366893: reassign to lintian

2008-09-10 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 366893 lintian thanks Hi, I'm reassigning this to lintian so that a check for a standarized stop message can be implemented. Reading from the bug, I think policy is quite clear about it. (If there is a stop script, there should be a stop message) Feel free to reassign to

Bug#238833: please read the bugreport until the end to understand why I reassigned this bug

2008-09-10 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 238833 qt-x11-free retitle 238833 wrong rendering fallback thanks Hi, please read the bugreport until the end to understand why I reassigned this bug. Probably you also want to retitle this bug even more. regards, Holger pgpBJiJQvc0dE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#65611: reassign to lsb

2008-09-10 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 65611 lsb-base tags 65611 +upstream thanks Hi, I don't think it's Debians role to demand such changes in upstreams behavior, even though this change might be a good idea. So I'll reassign this to lsb-base. regards, Holger pgpK62PyEw3Se.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#388065: reassign

2008-09-10 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 388065 cups tags 388065 +upstream thanks Hi, based on the assumption that a bug report titled My PC should warn me when I try to shut down while my printer is still printing clearly assumes (My PC) a default printing environment on a default desktop install (which is cups) and that

Bug#457839: reassign

2008-09-11 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 457839 perl thanks Hi, my understanding on this is based on reading the bug report. I'm not fully sure if this issue has been closed with perl 5.10 or if seperate bug reports for all effected manpages are useful. (I think the former but leave it to the perl maintainers to confirm.)

Bug#30020: reassign to lintian

2008-09-11 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 30020 lintian thanks Hi, reassigning to lintian, because a.) I think thats right and b.) I dont understand why it was reassigned from lintian to general in the first place. Probably this is already implemented (a check that two binary packages from one source package have exactly the

Re: Bug#195481: closed by Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (upstream issue, not packaging related)

2008-09-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Barak, On Saturday 20 September 2008 21:09, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote: What makes Debian a distribution rather than just a random collection of miscellaneous software is integration. This is an integration wishlist. It has to happen at the distribution level if it is to happen anywhere.

Bug#195481: closed by Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (upstream issue, not packaging related)

2008-09-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Barak, On Sunday 21 September 2008 19:13, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote: As said, feel free to reopen. Will do. And you did :-) Willing? Yes. Able? No, not realistically: too many other plates spinning in the air. But I'm happy to bounce things around with people. If there are people

Bug#195481: closed by Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (upstream issue, not packaging related)

2008-09-25 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Tuesday 23 September 2008 23:10, Neil Williams wrote: Guess we have different ideas about what wishlist bugs are for. My attitude is they're for wishes, like the sea is for fishes. Wishes should still have some possibility of attainment, otherwise it is wishful-thinking not wishlist.

Re: RFA: The Debian Jr. project

2008-09-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Ben, On Monday 25 August 2008 11:38, Ben Armstrong wrote: Thanks. It's hard to let go, but it's really for the best if someone else will carry on. Yup. Has something happened on this in the last month? Is that vision written down somewhere? It is probably best expressed on

Re: RFA: The Debian Jr. project

2008-10-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Wednesday 01 October 2008 11:37, Ben Armstrong wrote: Probably. But it doesn't stop me from wishing this were not so. I didn't want Debian Jr. to be *only* a packaging effort. I wanted a living, breathing relationship between children, their caretakers and developers. We've fallen

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Reinhard, On Tuesday 07 October 2008 12:11, Reinhard Tartler wrote: Can you please backup that claim? Well, no and yes ;-) You confirm it yourself, but then say its not comparible. I only said that those patents are being enforced, which they are. (I didnt mention whether thats comparible

Re: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight -- open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight

2008-10-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Tuesday 07 October 2008 09:03, Robert Millan wrote: Unclaimed patents are precisely the reason we don't have any MPEG encoders in Debian (see http://techliberation.com/2006/05/11/mpeg-patent-thicket/). Wrong. We dont have mpeg encoders in Debian because those patents are being

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Tuesday 07 October 2008 16:44, Reinhard Tartler wrote: - packages in 'patented' must fulfill the requirements of the dfsg I dont think we should support the obsolete, useless wrong patent system by doing this. Also, something must patented in which / how many of the 160

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, I was thinking whether not to mail this at all, or to -curiosa or to Gunnar, but then, I think it's useful to spread the message how silly patents are... On Tuesday 07 October 2008 21:13, Gunnar Wolf wrote: For positive proof, I'd buy it - but we must remember logical fallacies can be

Bug#501590: Processed: Re: Bug#501590: PrintScreen key causes many apps to suddenly die if you are running in Linux text mode

2008-10-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Christian, I don't understand why you reassigned this bug to general. Surely, if you want to discuss this with debian-devel@ you can cc: the list. Reassigning the bug to general often achieves nothing (which cannot be achieved by cc:ing) while it tends to pile up the list of general bugs

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

2008-10-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Monday 27 October 2008 19:35, Frank Küster wrote: If the PDF is frozen documentation, it's probably worth the effort. If upstream changes the PDF with every new version, you should ask them for their sources instead. What if they use openoffice.org to edit the pdf and the pdf is the

Re: NEW status as of right now

2008-10-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sunday 26 October 2008 23:04, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Mostly thanks to Joerg and Mark this is down from ~250 packages we had in NEW on Friday. thanks to all of you who worked on this! (now and before and in future.) regards, Holger, who is happy to have spoiled the its a

Re: DFSG violations in Lenny: Summarizing the choices

2008-11-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sunday 09 November 2008 13:37, Paul Wise wrote: The images don't include non-free stuff, but they do allow loading non-free firmware. Joey Hess blogged about how it works here: http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/d-i_firmware_loading/ So all we need is just a download location for

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