Re: FWD: Re: Linus is on a powertrip..

1998-10-03 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joey Hess) wrote on 02.10.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is from the linux kernel mailing list. I find it pretty completly sums op my thoughts on all the new constitution and voting and policy voting stuff that we've been setting up. I haven't been vocal about this, but I

Re: Right way to sync

1998-10-05 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Singer) wrote on 04.10.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What is the *right* way to sync to slink (or any other distribution)? I looked into dftp and found that it seems more like a method for installing new packages than keeping in sync with the most recent versions. The

Re: exim really does need to be the standard MTA in slink

1998-10-08 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Slootman) wrote on 07.10.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue 06 Oct 1998, Robert Woodcock wrote: Just out of curiosity, what's the security track record on smail vs exim for the last two years? The standard MTA should have a chance of being secure from remote attacks

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-08 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin Maurer) wrote on 04.10.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On a related note, do we want to continue using names from pixar movies now that Bruce is gone? i see no reason not to. they are nice names, the only problem is that we may be running out of good ones (i admit, rc

Re: 1FA: problem still in hamm disks

1998-10-18 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Gertzfield) wrote on 16.10.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brent == Brent Fulgham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brent I'd like to chime in -- It's a real annoyance that the base Brent disks don't set up lilo to let you boot into multiple Brent operating systems.

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-18 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Tille) wrote on 08.10.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: see at the people near you and look at yourself with the eyes of an Hitchhiker) Can't. (Can you guess that I don't much like the Hitchhiker stuff?) - Another naming scheme without any background would be A, B,

Re: Deleting uncompressed Info/Doc files at upgrades

1998-10-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 16.10.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I disagree quite strongly. If the intent was to have uncompressed originals on the system we would have shipped them as such. Indeed - the .debs would be smaller that way. MfG Kai

Re: Deleting uncompressed Info/Doc files at upgrades

1998-10-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S Galbraith) wrote on 16.10.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - If you are using some docs often on a 486, you end up uncompressing them because it's too slow otherwise. I'm using a 486. Uncompressing text is too slow? Ridiculous. On the other hand, I currently have about

Re: Do not pull a package!

1999-01-31 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Santiago Vila) wrote on 17.12.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Juergen A. Erhard wrote: Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey A critical bug on an unimportant package is a sure bet to get that package Joey pulled from the distirbution

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-01-31 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wichert Akkerman) wrote on 31.01.99 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Previously Michael Stone wrote: perl-suid 31904 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Secuity hole with pe= rl (suidperl) and nosuid mounts on Linux] [13] (Darren Stalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com ) =20 I'm not sure

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-01-31 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branden Robinson) wrote on 31.01.99 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 29360: point 1) is an issue for the release notes; I can't retroactively patch an old prerm; You could, but it would be fairly ugly, and I'm not sure it's worth it. Startegy: pre-depend on a package that does the

Re: dpkg port to HP-UX

1999-01-31 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bdale Garbee) wrote on 26.01.99 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Hmmm. swinstall (HP-UX native I think) seems to support dependencies. It's pretty ugly though and I don't know if there's a command line version. Yes, you can drive

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bristel) wrote on 14.05.99 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: abandon those who run slink. Note that if linus did that, the 2.2.7 and 2.2.8 would never have come out because work had already begun on the 2.3 kernels. Umm, may I point out that 2.3.0 == 2.2.8? The difference is

Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)

1999-05-18 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren O. Benham) wrote on 16.05.99 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 08:09:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bristel) wrote on 14.05.99 in Pine.LNX.3.96.= [EMAIL PROTECTED]: =20 abandon those who run slink. Note that if linus did

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 14.08.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: John == John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No real reason? Only one package can listen in on port 25, and John There is no real reason that all must listen on port 25. Then you and I have very

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adrian Bridgett) wrote on 16.08.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 12:31:47 -0500 (+), Branden Robinson wrote: On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 07:22:26PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Well, the FHS is contradicting itself here. On one hand, it says that ifconfig

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jacob Kuntz) wrote on 15.08.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Clint Adams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: No real reason? Only one package can listen in on port 25, and Only one package can listen on port 25 of one IP. It is possible to have multiple packages listening on

Re: Potato now stable

2000-08-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Gunthorpe) wrote on 14.08.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Joey Hess wrote: You know, if apt could only support Reccommends, task packages could be I don't care for this much, it breaks the model that apt-get follows, it Well, I'd *very very much*

Re: Close list

2000-12-26 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hamish Moffatt) wrote on 25.12.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 08:43:51PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: I have a comment: NO WAY IN HELL. The day that we start rejecting DUL posts is the day that several people leave the project, me included. How many

Re: Close list

2000-12-26 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miles Bader) wrote on 24.12.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: flame war Now maybe if we were using the RBL, DUL, and RSS lists... :-) /flame war GNU mailing lists (supposedly) use RBL, but in a mode where `spam' isn't deleted, but

Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!

2000-12-26 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Wirzenius) wrote on 24.12.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robert van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ignoring spam has made the internet the spam-ridden place it is right now. Spam hasn't been ignored for the past six years, thank you very much. It thrives regardless of the

Bug#194546: ITP: libemail-simple-perl -- Email handling. Simply.

2003-05-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-05-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libemail-simple-perl Version : 1.4 Upstream Author : Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/R/RC/RCLAMP/Email-Simple-1.4.tar.gz * License

Bug#194547: ITP: libemail-filter-perl -- Library for creating easy email filters

2003-05-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-05-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libemail-filter-perl Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/S/SI/SIMON/Email-Filter-1.0.tar.gz * License : Same as

Bug#194548: ITP: libemail-localdelivery-perl -- Deliver a piece of email - simply

2003-05-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-05-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libemail-localdelivery-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/S/SI/SIMON/Email-LocalDelivery-0.04.tar.gz * License

Bug#194550: ITP: libemail-mime-encodings-perl -- A unified interface to MIME encoding and decoding

2003-05-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-05-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libemail-mime-encodings-perl Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/S/SI/SIMON/Email-MIME-Encodings-1.0.tar.gz * License

Re: Bug#194550: ITP: libemail-mime-encodings-perl -- A unified interfa

2003-05-26 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerfried Fuchs) wrote on 26.05.03 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please, don't simply massfile ITPs without thinking on their impact and without any deeper informations Please don't assume someone jasn't thought about something just because you haven't been personally

Re: Bug#194550: ITP: libemail-mime-encodings-perl -- A unified interfa

2003-06-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerfried Fuchs) wrote on 02.06.03 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: See, it is nothing personal (you seem to take it that way), but packages with similar functionality should be questioned, and if the Says who? I reject that assertion. A long description in an ITP would a) reduce

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nunya) wrote on 17.12.03 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 11:35:54AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: | You are totally rationalizing. *sigh* From Branden's original post where he mentioned the names: We might use names from Christian demonology (since

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron Patrick) wrote on 18.12.03 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:32:41AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: | On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 01:16, Nunya wrote: | | Face it. You're practicing hate speech. You're not better than what | you hate. | | Ya

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel Baker) wrote on 17.12.03 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:25:11PM -0800, Nunya wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:56:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: For the record, however, if you consider saying that the lifestyle or beliefs of someone you don't

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henning Makholm) wrote on 18.12.03 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Scripsit Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:05:46PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imagining it? I suppose it's possible that

Re: Organizing non-free

1996-06-18 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Geiger) wrote on 16.06.96 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Chris Fearnley wrote: Umm, non-free to distribute shouldn't be on /any/ ftp site, right? I believe 'non-free to distribute' means, you can't sell it for money (many people do this - they give the

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 12.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kai == Kai Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Well, yes. Scan the temp dir after unpacking. If it contains one Kai directory and nothing else, that directory is the main package Kai directory. If it contains

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Mortimer) wrote on 13.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On May 12, Jim Pick wrote Excellent write-up, Klee. Thanks for doing it. I second this; a lot of thought has obviously gone into this, and it shows! aol Me too! /aol * [1.1] It must be possible to

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 13.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kai == Kai Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Well, yes. Scan the temp dir after unpacking. If it contains one Kai directory and nothing else, that directory is the main package Kai directory. If it contains

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 13.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or, thirdly, we use pristine sources iff they are in supported formats, or else the upstream source is massaged into a supported format, and BIG signs are posted pointing to the real sources and the steps

Re: sendmail/smail with relaying blocks?

1997-05-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Walker) wrote on 14.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I beg to differ. I think what is the sensible default depends on the usage of the machine. For departmental mail servers, then you are correct relaying is more sensible, but for Satellite systems, it is more sensible to

Re: Pbs with locale and fonts

1997-05-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Lees) wrote on 15.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 14 May 1997, Mathieu Guillaume wrote: I've encountered two little problems in hamm. First one shows while using dselect. I have the following message several times: [perl i18n stuff removed] Basically, you

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 16.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jim == Jim Van Zandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim I think the .. pathname component problem deserves some Jim attention. What does anybody think about these steps? Jim 1) Incoming Debian source packages should be

Re: config packages [Was: rm -r * and the default prompt]

1997-05-21 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Mays) wrote on 20.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would not advocate implementing such a package this way. Most of the config files that we would be interested in fixing for newbies can include or source another file. Take sh-like shells for example. We would have

Re: smail bug? FQND not in proper format

1997-05-21 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Basically, mailx conflicts with smail. dpkg: error processing xmysql (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Setting up smail (3.2-3) ... Error: system's FQDN hostname (citytel_prct40.citytel.net) doesn't match

Re: copyright question for abuse

1997-05-22 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote on 21.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Take the public domain part and put it in one package. Take the non-free part and put it in another package. You already knew this but I said it as context for the following: Contact the author and ask them to issue

Re: Conflict between Packages file and actual files

1997-05-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Buddha Buck) wrote on 23.05.97 in btWcb1.0.S23.gCSXp@debian: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a continuous problem. I don't know why ftp.debian.org takes so long to get in sync with master, but the problem simply propogates from there to all the

Re: Kernel 2.0.30 a bad choice for 1.3

1997-05-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Goerzen) wrote on 23.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christoph [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 21 May 1997, John Goerzen wrote: Since we know of a number of things that have been broken in 2.0.30 (such as IP masquerading

Re: Kernel 2.0.30 a bad choice for 1.3

1997-05-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Koch) wrote on 24.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Kai Henningsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Oh, I give in. There really is no excuse. There is. No. 2.0.30 has some problems, undoubtedly. I don't know if they're all fixed with 2.0.30-6 (it works perfectly fine

Re: Conflict between Packages file and actual files

1997-05-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) wrote on 24.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hmm. Some thing that might help is a regular automatic comparision of ftp.debian.org and master.debian.org. I'll think about that for a while ... I just wrote something. First result: at this moment, master and ftp

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-26 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Jackson) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What we want is: * `--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor. * `Delete' always deletes to the right. * `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before. We want this to be true for the console, for

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-26 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Lameter) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: : What we want is: : * `--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor. : * `Delete' always deletes to the right. : * `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as

Re: runlevels [was Re: Upcoming Debian Releases]

1997-05-26 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vadim Vygonets) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BTW, why does runlevel 6 mean reboot? Can't it be runlevel 9? It (6) seems to be the standard in Linux boxen now, but why? It's been standard in runlevel-based Unix for a long time. That's probably because

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Christoph == Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christoph Emacs is one application. We want to use an existing Christoph STANDARD not screw up one more. Emacs can be Christoph adapted. Please do use

Re: Where is the mysql package?

1997-05-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clint Adams) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Which installation method are you using in dselect? In think you have to specify the directory debian/dists/unstable as base directory and select distributions main, contrib, and non-free. This would be nice, but the

Re: runlevels [was Re: Upcoming Debian Releases]

1997-05-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Jellinghaus) wrote on 27.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On May 26, Kai Henningsen wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vadim Vygonets) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BTW, why does runlevel 6 mean reboot? Can't it be runlevel 9? It (6) seems

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Koenig) wrote on 27.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Scott K. Ellis wrote: And if you don't read the documentation, especially the release instructions, you get what you deserve. What part of the documentation are you referring to? I found nothing referring to that

Re: posix time / 822-date problem

1997-05-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Jellinghaus) wrote on 27.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: my 822-date says : local timezone differs from GMT by a non-minute interval local time: Tue May 27 19:22:48 1997 GMT time: Tue May 27 17:23:08 1997 how to correkt this (it's very ugly - debmake and dch are

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raul Miller) wrote on 27.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: These packages should conflict with the versions of dpkg which have the problem. [Or maybe a predepends on a good version of dpkg?] That won't help. Once you [U]pdate, the old dpkg will refuse to work. You don't even

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-28 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Frey) wrote on 27.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AltGr is a special modifier: it is a kind of Hyper key if you want (with Alt == Meta). Ah yes, this brings up a point: *Don't* use Alt=(bit 0x80)! This won't work for most people (anybody that needs more than ASCII).

Re: no md5sums for essential packages?

2002-08-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
kleptog@svana.org (Martijn van Oosterhout) wrote on 01.08.02 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No reason, however in the docs there is an example line to put in apt.conf Which docs? What line? to automatically generate md5sum files for every package that doesn't contain them. So after you do an

Re: GCC 3.2 transition

2002-08-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Langasek) wrote on 16.08.02 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From the heated discussion I've just had on IRC, I've gathered the following: * It is assumed that for the vast majority of C++ libs we ship, upstream has already transitioned to using the GCC 3.2 ABI, therefore

Re: [hertzog@debian.org: Re: Woody retrospective and Sarge introspecti

2002-08-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joey Hess) wrote on 30.07.02 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't think it offers much if anything over special-purpose staging areas as is being used for perl 5.8 right now. It seems to me staging areas could solve a lot of these difficulties, yes. I'm not clear on the current

Re: long list of give away or orphaned packages

1997-05-29 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Welton) wrote on 28.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While it would be nice if new developers took over some orphaned packages (I plan to), unloading a package on someone that they have no interest in, is, IMHO, a bad thing. If they are personally interested in it, they

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-30 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Lees) wrote on 27.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are ways to avoid this. For example, modify dpkg not to include any line with config=yes in it in the md5sum of certain files. This is a troll, right? Or maybe you have forgotten how conffiles are actually handled:

Re: RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-06-01 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Galen Hazelwood) wrote on 31.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Christian Schwarz wrote: On Thu, 29 May 1997, Galen Hazelwood wrote: (Don't ask me what the historical reasons are, though. I might start to whimper...) Sorry, but I couldn't resist :-) What are the

Re: dcfgtool and clones

1997-06-01 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Sanders) wrote on 01.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The config database should be regarded as a convenience for {pre,post}{inst,rm} scripts and /etc/init.d/ boot time scripts only. Well, that was what started the discussion, anyway. Then the general-admin- tool stuff

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Gunthorpe) wrote on 01.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I really must admit I find the GPL very cryptic, it's hard to say exactly what it means if you look at very small detail. I do think that it makes sense however that you should be able to put RCS in a dll and link to

Re: Env-varaibles

1997-06-02 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Hands) wrote on 02.06.97 in sS5XS1.0.gy5.Mhgap@debian: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: for SmallEiffel (which I am packaging) to work at all, it needs an env-variable to be set. Is it not possible to patch the program, to default to the value that you were going to

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy

1997-06-05 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian White) wrote on 04.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That depends on how you look at it. If the author does not do significant maintenence or has abandoned the package then this is true. What if the author doesn't want you to do ports? We have one case of

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy

1997-06-07 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian White) wrote on 05.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can understand Debian making policy that none of the core system will depend on such packages, but I don't see any advantage to simply disallowing such copyrights from the main distribution. With respect to copyrights,

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-07 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Pick) wrote on 01.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, very limiting. The code actually cannot be linked statically! Can't be linked dynamically either... read the GPL. Can too. Read the law. The GPL _cannot_ restrict someone from doing that, regardless of what they

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-06-07 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Lees) wrote on 02.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 30 May 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Lees) wrote on 27.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are ways to avoid this. For example, modify dpkg not to include any line with config=yes

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-06-07 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Pick) wrote on 02.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I shouldn't have said 'dropping'. I don't think they are throwing any of the old code out. But they are switching to Java as the primary language which they are pushing. All of the NextStep API's will be 100% accessible

Re: Mirror mismatch

1997-06-08 Thread Kai Henningsen
ftp.debian.org has caught up to most of the recent master changes, except ... [...] d WebPages/. d WebPages/.. -d WebPages/1.2 -l WebPages/Bugs - ../debian.org-local/Bugs -d WebPages/CDs -l WebPages/Lists-Archives [...] ... it doesn't mirror the WebPages directory. Is this

Re: 1.3 installation report

1997-06-08 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote on 03.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wound up in a catch-22 with some of the extra packages: - ghostview and gv both depend on gs. However, package gs-alladin which provides gs never gets installed because dselect tries to: gs-alladin is in non-free,

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-08 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 07.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: Can't be linked dynamically either... read the GPL. Can too. Read the law. The GPL _cannot_ restrict someone from doing

Re: 1.3 installation report

1997-06-08 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Mortimer) wrote on 08.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jun 8, Kai Henningsen wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote on 03.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [dselect fails to install main packages depending on ones in non-free or contrib] Well, this is one

Re: Mirror mismatch

1997-06-09 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guy Maor) wrote on 08.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: it doesn't mirror the WebPages directory. Is this intentional? Yes, Sue and I decided that there was no need to have a copy of the web pages on the ftp site also. I'm

Configuration (was: Re: How do we encourage bug reports?)

1997-06-11 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Hands) wrote on 11.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The problems that need to be solved are: unpacking all the request scripts early enough to run them all before the first pre-inst; and making the request scripts able to diagnose what questions to ask, when

Re: inetd question

1997-06-12 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 12.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I get quite a lot of these messages: inetd[153]: ident/tcp server failing (looping), service terminated How can I tell which service is the one that's asked for too often? I'd say it's ident/tcp :-) I guess you're

Re: Adding conffiles to a package

1997-06-12 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philippe Troin) wrote on 12.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm stuck with the diald package, and I've got problems with users from old versions. The thing is: the files /etc/diald/diald.ip-{up,down} weren't conffiles, and now they are. Installing a new version of diald where

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Koch) wrote on 13.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Philip Hands ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Qmail is most definitely capable of UUCP (I use it here), and AFAIK bang paths can be done with rmail. With what addition? Last time I really tried it, it was only working

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 13.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Both qmail (which proved insecure most evil grin) and Exim are not capable of UUCP or even bang paths! So a lot of those guys in countries

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Lameter) wrote on 12.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It might be good if we would replace smail in hamm with exim. Exim should be the standard mailer for hamm: - Exim is based on the same concepts as smail. - It is developed with newer concepts in mind - Exim is

Re: Simple policy question...

1997-06-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Hudon) wrote on 14.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jun 13, Sam Ockman wrote Okay, so say some random person who has installed Debian wants XEmacs 19.15 because he needs some feature. This seems like a reasonable request... He could get it from the Hamm

Re: inetd question

1997-06-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Tobias) wrote on 13.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jun 13, Michael Meskes wrote: Thanks Peter. I guess it's the ident service. So I try nowait.120 and see what happens. Of course it is the ident service (that's what the error message of inetd said). But the

Re: routing question

1997-06-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Templin) wrote on 13.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The question is this: I've compiled a lean, mean kernel with the appropriate IP forwarding enabled (no firewalling or masquerading is being used). Will it route by default, or do I need to add a specific package

Re: locale errors

1997-06-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erv Walter) wrote on 13.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The locale errors are getting extremely annoying. What is the most correct way to solve the problems. unsetting LANG solves the problem, but I can't find where it is getting set in the first place. That's not the most

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-06-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Lees) wrote on 09.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, it looks as we will have to agree to disagree. The file is not modified locally per s.e., just written locally in a Uh, there's no dots in per se. That's latin for by or in itself - per is by, and se is self. MfG

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Hands) wrote on 15.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Exim doesn't provide UUCP capabilities *at all*, thus it is rather useless for sites that use UUCP (like me). I expect that you will admit that UUCP sites are a minority. I use UUCP, I don't know about him, but I

Re: S: workaround for dpkg replaces bug

1997-06-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Jellinghaus) wrote on 15.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the dpkg replace function works only for the first package listed. one of my package (isdnutils) replaces more than one package (vbox, isdnlog, xisdnutils). maybe someone has an idea how i can make sure, that

Re: locale errors

1997-06-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 15.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = us are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Alan Dorman) wrote on 15.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My two personal reservations: 1) I think Daniel J. Bernstein (qmail's author) doesn't seem to know how to have a technical discussion without seeming as if he's tacking an implicit you stupid idiot on to the

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) wrote on 16.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kai Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [exim] I also hope to figure out how to get exim to have a customer-configurable spam block when acting as MX for those customers - I

Re: locale errors

1997-06-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. This is, of course, a problem nearly as serious as that about utmp. MfG Kai -- TO

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Cutts) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 16 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: I meant the possibility for a customer to request the ISP exim to reject any mail that comes from, say, savetrees.com. You know, what AOL does, except I want individual customers

Re: locale errors

1997-06-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tomislav Vujec) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 15.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I got that (with perl only) before I installed debian; it doesn't like locale settings

Re: hamm and dftp

1997-06-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas L Stewart) wrote on 16.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there a dftp.conf setup I can use that doesn't require me to do some sed work on the packages file? The paths are wrong for the mirrors in the one that's on the servers now. The paths in the Packages file

Re: hamm and dftp

1997-06-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas L Stewart) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 17 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas L Stewart) wrote on 16.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there a dftp.conf setup I can use that doesn't require me to do some sed work

Re: locale errors

1997-06-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a libc6 version of perl

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-20 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) wrote on 16.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 16.06.97 schrieb efraim # argh.org ... Moin Alexander! AK sendmail: too complicated That's wrong. It's very easy to configure sendmail with the m4 scripts for a leaf site. And professionell system adminstrators

Re: leap second

1997-06-20 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote on 18.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The time is out of joint, o 'cursed spite. The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology will set it right on June 30, at one second before midnight UTC, by adding a leap second. Systems that run on POSIX

Re: hamm and dftp

1997-06-20 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas L Stewart) wrote on 18.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 18 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: ftpdir: /debian/hamm This is probably the problem. The above path is relative to the /debian directory. You might try ftpdir: /debian

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