Bits from the Debian GNU/Hurd porters

2005-07-13 Thread Michael Banck
is up and ready to go, pending its addition to the wanna-build database. In the meantime, Santiago Vila and Michael Banck have been semi-automatically building and uploading hurd-i386 packages. * Several major packages have been ported, though some of them are not in the official archive

Re: Debian at Solutions Linux 2004 (Paris - February 3rd to 5th)

2003-10-15 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 01:03:42PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: If you want to get any promotional material done which can be used for future events as well, Debian can cover the expenses (or some, if you also find sponsors). Perhaps you'd like to print a Debian

Re: Secret changes for binNMUs

2005-11-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 03:50:11PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: If you NEED to do a manual binNMU it is probably best to use sbuild (the cvs, not deb) Patches for the Debian package are welcome, of course. Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Secret changes for binNMUs

2005-11-24 Thread Michael Banck
-build is upstream. As I understand it, we do not plan to use the Debian sbuild package for the buildds, the upstream one works well enough (and currently much better for what the buildds need) Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck

Re: Secret changes for binNMUs

2005-11-24 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 06:44:42PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 03:50:11PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: If you NEED to do a manual binNMU it is probably best to use sbuild (the cvs, not deb) Patches

Re: Secret changes for binNMUs

2005-11-24 Thread Michael Banck
how packages should be named, and whether the current sbuild package should be renamed. Until then, less drama would be welcome. Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Secret changes for binNMUs

2005-11-25 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 02:38:32PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 06:51:24PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They were, originally. Ryan's been very active on it since, and it's

Bug#341486: ITP: gnome-chemistry-utils -- GNOME chemistry utility library

2005-11-30 Thread Michael Banck
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: gnome-chemistry-utils Version : 0.4.7 Upstream Author : Jean Brefort [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.nongnu.org/gchemutils/ * License : GPL Description : GNOME

Bug#341487: ITP: gchempaint -- Chemical structure editor

2005-11-30 Thread Michael Banck
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: gchempaint Version : 0.6.2 Upstream Author : Jean Brefort [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.nongnu.org/gchempaint/ * License : GPL Description : Chemical structure

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-08 Thread Michael Banck
nothing to see here, please move along. kthxbye, Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-08 Thread Michael Banck
, Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-09 Thread Michael Banck
it? At least, that's the conclusion that a rational outside observer would come to. Where should I best complain for your NM application to be cancelled? Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 12:47:59PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:27:10 +0100, Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Where should I best complain for your NM application to be cancelled? Err, so if a NM candidate speaks as openly as some DD's do, they get

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-10 Thread Michael Banck
of hurd and such on buildd.net. There are currently no public build logs for hurd-i386, but we are working on getting them published on experimentel.ftbfs.de as well. Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Debian and the desktop (was: Re: Complaint about #debian operator)

2005-12-12 Thread Michael Banck
(Dropping Josh and moving to -devel, as this is discussion is going elsewhere) On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 01:59:05PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: However, some users just want a computer that works (the plain users). They don't want to have to learn too much about Linux or Debian, they just want

Re: making more packages binary NMU safe

2006-01-17 Thread Michael Banck
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Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-17 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 01:28:07PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: I've changed the override to Priority: standard; I can't say I'm remotely impressed by how this has been handled. Could this be stopped, please? I am not sure why you are replying to

Re: For those who care about debian-devel-announce

2006-01-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:44:32PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Sorry to feed again the troll, but I would like to know what is the rationale behind removing the permissions for Andrew and not for Raphaël. This has nothing to do with the technical aspects of Debian development (too bad the

Re: For those who care about debian-devel-announce

2006-01-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:25:07PM +, Dave Holland wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:44:32PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Raphaël has also harmed the project by implicitly linking it to Ubuntu. Don't be ridiculous. Ubuntu explicitly acknowledge that they build on Debian - see

Re: Autobuilding and the build-arch target, again

2006-01-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 06:36:40PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: To summarize the proposals so far: - Scan debian/rules, invoke build-arch if present. Has been tried, does not work. AFAIK it is working as long as you assume debian/rules to be a Makefile, which is a pretty safe assumption

Re: Autobuilding and the build-arch target, again

2006-01-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 07:31:08PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 06:59:55PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 06:36:40PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: To summarize the proposals so far: - Scan debian/rules, invoke build-arch if present

Re: Multiple package variants with CDBS?

2006-01-30 Thread Michael Banck
. Is this supported by CDBS somehow? Is there a package, that already does such a thing using CDBS? Any hint or example debian/rules file appreciated, thanks in advance! Look at fvwm. fvwm does not use cdbs, I think we all know how to do this in general. Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer

Re: NEWS.Debian abuse

2006-01-31 Thread Michael Banck
cover things the users should know in order to successfully operate the package. Knowing who is the maintainer does not fall into this category. If they cared about changes for the Debian packaging, they would read up on it in changelog.Debian.gz. Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL

Re: Linux and memory leak

2006-02-03 Thread Michael Banck
. Please do not follow-up to end-user questions on -devel without at least setting Mail-Followup-To to a more appropriate list. Better yet, move them elsewhere alltogether. thanks, Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html

Re: SVN on alitoth for guest accounts

2006-02-07 Thread Michael Banck
://alioth.debian.org states: Any problems? If you encounter a problem with Alioth, please check out the Site Admin group. You may want to use the support request tracker to report problems. http://alioth.debian.org/projects/siteadmin/ Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-13 Thread Michael Banck
Gentlemen, On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:14:56PM +, Brett Parker wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 10:55:57AM +0100, Xavier Roche wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Sven Luther wrote: Fonts or documentations are not softwares, for god's sake! everything that is not hardware is software So a

Re: limitations of reportbug and BTS

2006-02-16 Thread Michael Banck
they are from the same source package, it can be assumed that the maintainers know about this. It might make more sense to reassign those bugs to the current binary package in unstable in that case, maybe. Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org

Re: Change .rm to mp3 or wav file

2006-02-18 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:29:52AM -0800, Peter Khwatenge wrote: Do you have a program that can change .rm to mp3 or wave files? If yes, how can I get one? This question is inappropriate for this list, please ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: busybox-1.01-cross.patch

2006-03-03 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 02:46:17PM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: Dear maintainer(s), Please consider this patch, that adds the ability to cross-compile your package. I think you should file those patches as wishlist bugs in the Debian bug tracking system at http://bugs.debian.org.

Re: the latest gnome

2006-03-06 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 01:42:19PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GNOME seems to be more and more focusing on the entry-level Linux user, and less and less on advanced users. Most unfortunate, its much prettier than KDE. Indeed. Wasn't there a

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-08 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 03:36:12PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: Is there any objections to my uploading a new e2fsprogs package which does this? Please take into consideration that libselinux is not available on Debian's non-Linux ports. thanks, Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer

Re: NEW queue backing up again -- ftpmasters, any explanation or comment?

2006-03-13 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 02:39:11PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: On 3/13/06, Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ma, 2006-03-13 kello 08:57 +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst kirjoitti: I don't think it's useful to second-guess what they're doing, so my question to Nathanael: when did you post

Re: for those who care about Debian supporting namecalling

2006-03-13 Thread Michael Banck
13, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Re: for those who care about Debian supporting namecalling To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Please make this stop. Now. thanks, Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: removal of svenl from the project

2006-03-15 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 07:21:09PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: I had decided to keep silent for the next few week to let matters settle, but as you ask directly and i was pointer to your question, i will break that resolution once, That resolution seems to have slipped by a mail or two now?

Re: Re: removal of svenl from the project

2006-03-16 Thread Michael Banck
be heard in the next stage, there is no need to clutter -devel even further at this point. Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Balancing the noise between -devel and -private?

2006-03-16 Thread Michael Banck
be on -project really, as acknowledged by its originator. -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New dpkg-buildpackage error

2006-03-17 Thread Michael Banck
. cheers, Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Release Date Update

2006-03-20 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 02:51:25PM -0800, Mark Shuttleworh wrote: [...] Before anybody gets to reply to the body, this is a fake. Mark Shuttleworth doesn't use a hotmail adress to send mail to lists. YHBT, HAND, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: bet there are no senior citizen developers

2006-03-22 Thread Michael Banck
. Please post non-development issues to debian-project next time. Or rethink whether your issue needs posting at all. thanks, Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Keysignings and other meetups (Was: etch before vista)

2006-03-25 Thread Michael Banck
of discussions to debian-project to enhance debian-devel's signal-to-noise ratio with respect to development. thanks, Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: project machine architecture aliases

2006-03-26 Thread Michael Banck
suited for debian-project. Thanks for considering, Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 01:38:42PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: IMHO, with the current 2.4.* setup, the difference between compiling your own and using the preexisting one is so minimal that most people will be able to use the precompiled one rather than building their own. Fair enough. But what

Re: ITH (Intent To Hijack) pilot-manager

2001-05-03 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:22:57PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 02:07:29PM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: ^ Hi, Darren, glad to know you're still around and in one piece. I was starting to get a

Re: RFD: translated description with dpkg

2001-09-03 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:59:34AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: We already package things that we ourselces can't completely fix. or even know if they are totally screwed up or not. (I do not use nnimap, and I can't tell whether it is screwed up wither -- how long do you want to

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:53:46PM +0100, Amir Bukhari wrote: I have search in Internet, if some did that, or there is another tools already work on debian, but I have not found any! If you know one. That mean there is no need to port this package. Dunno how you feel about this, but

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:13:18PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: Dunno how you feel about this, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works quite fine here. It does kinda assume you know what you want your config file to look like, asking you about drivers and so-forth. Install

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:42:43PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: Install discover, read-edid and mdetect before you install X, and you're set. Now explain that to my mother! :p [snip] Maybe what we want is a meta-package that depends on discover, read_edid, and mdetect. Maybe what we

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:44:08AM +0100, Othmar Pasteka wrote: Install discover, read-edid and mdetect before you install X, and you're set. it's not userfriendly? that's the whole point of it actually. and X based GUIs are way nicer than text based GUIs. Didn't we have graphical debconf

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:14:18AM +0100, Amir Bukhari wrote: After all I have readed in reply of my Post, I have understand, that I can begin Porting this program to debian, and I see if it could be integreted to debian installation process ;-) . I don't want to discourage you from porting

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:18:08PM +0100, Michael Piefel wrote: Am 4.12.02 um 14:38:07 schrieb Joey Hess: angband: Sauron [...] most powerful of his servants Nice script, Joey, but perhaps you should have looked at the description for yourself. :-) Heh, I succesfully managed to :q! when I

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)

2003-04-10 Thread Michael Banck
[just replying to bring this to the attention of the dpkg-maintainers. At least Wichert does not read -devel. I hope that's alright.] On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:12:25AM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: At Wed, 9 Apr 2003 23:08:31 +0200, Michael Banck wrote: Note that the x86_64 is special

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)

2003-04-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 04:43:57PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:33:39PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: [SNIP] So basically, I don't think this is a very good idea. However I think we can solve it differently in a much simpler way: * modify dpkg (already

Re: [desktop] Draft proposal for a new debian menu system

2003-04-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 01:58:12PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 12:16, Enrico Zini wrote: I would like to propose that we switch to the freedesktop.org .menu format for desktop entries, and we keep providing menu informations for applications that do not provide one

Re: Work-needing packages report for Apr 11, 2003

2003-04-12 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 02:34:32PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: pptp-linux AIUI, you have to rebuild your kernel with a patch, and the version of the patch in the archive doesn't work on recent kernels. So I doubt many people will be hugely affected. Well, uni shut down VPN-access a while

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)

2003-04-12 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:15:32PM +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote: [ Disclaimer: just subscribed -- caught the thread already started ] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel Why not just define the new architecture x86-64 and have katie/buildd do the rest? Anything to do with the ability to

Re: Some questions about Debian developers

2003-04-12 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:28:23AM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 12:59:05AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: People who don't use their real names are either too stupid or too embarrassed by what they are saying. Either way, reading the mail they send merely wastes

Re: Work-needing packages report for Apr 11, 2003

2003-04-13 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 03:16:00PM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: Not about to offer to take pptp-linux, though - it's not essential for me, and I guess as a non-DD, it would be a bit tough to take on as a first package. If you change your mind and need a sponsor, let me

Re: Why is only the latest unstable package considered for testing?

2003-04-14 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 10:29:05PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Yes, but it is better than having our packages hold back by libvorbis and the 105 or so packages that will be breaken by its inclusion in testing, many of them have big RC bugs and such, and will not be includable in testing for a

Re: multiarchitecture binaries - technical obstacles?

2003-04-14 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 02:00:33PM -0700, Elladan wrote: Couldn't this be done more easily just by having the debian packages be multi-arch bundles where an executable for each platform is included? And that would solve/help what exactly? *I* don't have a s/390 at home to produce such packages.

Re: Why is only the latest unstable package considered for testing?

2003-04-15 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 08:55:19AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 11:39:55PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 10:29:05PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Yes, but it is better than having our packages hold back by libvorbis and the 105 or so packages

Re: Why is only the latest unstable package considered for testing?

2003-04-15 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 11:10:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: It could be a nice solution to this kind of solution though. Trying to think up solutions for problems that don't exist, eh? Michael, scnr -- calc netscape 6 is only really useful for seeing how browsers used to be broken

Re: Why is only the latest unstable package considered for testing?

2003-04-15 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 01:30:27PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: If you want to help with something, please help in fixing the RC bugs in these packages. Yes, sure, easy for you to say. There are so many of them, and on such a diversity of packages, i could be fixing bugs for weeks and not

Re: ITA: pingus

2003-04-15 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 11:19:08AM -0600, Peter van Rossum wrote: Pingus is a free Lemmings clone. For several years now, the upstream code has not been in very good shape. A new release (0.6.0) is now imminent and is an enormous improvement. It does not have very many levels yet, but is

Re: New project proposal: debian-lex

2003-04-19 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 05:57:42PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On 19 Apr 2003, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: I am interested in coordinating a new sub-project called Debian-Lex, Could you please explain the naming lex for non English speakers? s/English/Latin/ cheers, Michael

Re: stop abusing debconf already

2003-04-20 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 08:57:38PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: No offense, but I think you joined the wrong project, then. No offence taken. I joined when Debian wasn't run by anal retentives. Sure there was the whole free software part - but not the SS Nazi version of free software that is

Re: If Debian decides that the Gnu Free Doc License is not free...

2003-04-21 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 08:07:19AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: Well, I certainly hope he doesn't want the kind of visibility that the studio and producer have. Can you imagine it? # mkreiserfs [clear screen] N A M E S Y S [...] Dude, he should

Re: [Debian-Lex] Packages and helpers for Linux for lawyers sub-project

2003-04-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 07:43:50PM +0800, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: We're still not officially launched yet though, until the list people create a list for us, so debian-devel will remain the point of contact until then. Well, you can always create a list on Alioth for the time being. No need to

Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 08:04:51AM -0400, christophe barbe wrote: I wonder why only the .changes files are readable in the NEW queue. Is there a reason for this? Crypto-in-main. Michael

Re: x86-64 mailing list

2003-04-24 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 01:43:54PM -0400, Rich Payne wrote: The Inquirer is not always right, so I am not sure if I should take that as truth or just rumors. I think they're right this time. Most of the press releases that have gone out mention AMD64 instead of x86-64, and the marketing

Re: x86-64 mailing list

2003-04-24 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 06:27:34PM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote: A bug on the lack of a debian-x86-64 mailing list has been opened (162668). All that can be done has been done -- it's out of our hands now :) The pressure, as you put it, could be increased by modifying the bug's severity;

Re: Bug#191167: ITP: oooqs-kde -- OpenOffice.org QuickStarter applet for KDE

2003-04-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 02:25:27AM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: [1] the package will be called 1:0.99+1.0_rc3-1 to ensure upgradability to 1.0 and from the woody backport which was versioned 1.0_rc3-0woody1 :( nothing against upgradability to 1.0, but introducing epochs right from the

Re: libstdc++... Help please

2003-04-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 02:26:23PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: Nick Burkett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just upgraded my sid system (i386) without realising that libstdc++-pre6 is completely broken... I've got an essay due in 24 hours which (was) being written in lyx (which now

Re: aag - wrapper for apt-get with support for recommend andsuggests field

2003-04-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 03:58:34PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: Am Die, 2003-04-29 um 13.08 schrieb David Nusinow: On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 06:13:38AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: Why not just use aptitude?[1] Its interactive, I don't want to launch a GUI if I want so simple add a package.

Re: aag - wrapper for apt-get with support for recommend and suggests field

2003-04-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 05:23:52PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 03:58:34PM +0200, Alexander Wirt [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Its interactive, I don't want to launch a GUI if I want so simple add a package. Additionally it seams that aptitude is currently

Re: RFA: sbuild -- Tool for building Debian binary packages from Debian sources

2003-04-30 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 05:44:06AM -0700, Rick Younie wrote: I request an adopter for the sbuild package. Roger Leigh packages buildd (which includes sbuild) locally, so he might be the right guy for this. Michael

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 03:51:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Daniel K. Gebhart (con-fuse) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christoph Siess (CHS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why are we giving debian.net addresses to people who don't want to go through the pain of authenticating themselves to

Re: security in testing

2003-05-15 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:22:28PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: has no official support from Debian security team qualifies as not for public consumption in my eyes, but fo course there are braver souls than I out there. So you are saying we should tell people to live with the disease,

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:06:25PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: The problem is finding competent volunteers to do the work. I must have missed that post to debian-devel-announce where the security guys call for responsible people to get on the team then. I mean, nothing wrong with

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 01:13:05PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: The only thing really needed here is the RM's blessing, and an announcement. I have no idea how you might think this announcement should look like. Could you perhaps at least give a rough outline of it? Thanks. Michael -- Alfie

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
So, what have we got here? Three theses: On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 07:13:39PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: 1. Well, the documentation says that there is no security for testing, 2. but it does not say that the security of unstable is higher than the one of testing. OK, so testing has no

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 08:52:26AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Matthias Urlichs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, Stephen Frost wrote: (a) Before I do something like that, I'd need to be accepted as DD. False statement. So non-DDs can get accounts on Debian machines to setup

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 10:06:57AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: People are only going to bitch if you make it look like an official part of Debian when it isn't, and rightly so. Why the hell do you think this should not be an official part of debian

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 12:38:39PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 10:06:57AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: People are only going to bitch if you make it look like an official part of Debian when it isn't, and rightly so

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 01:39:20PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 02:41:47PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200305/msg5.html I stand corrected. If a member of the sec-team says Yes, we

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 02:49:28PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: You seem to fail to understand that people don't pull security updates from Joe-Random-NM-or-not's server. Of course, one can setup a repository with testing-security-updates. Whether

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 10:06:23PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: The accepted procedure seems to be to - sign your response (!) He did. Michael -- jbailey Well, if we can't talk about the Hurd here, we may as well talk about sex. neal They are often equivalent. functionally

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 04:09:28PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I wouldn't feel like setting up a repository for testing that only clueless people-who-put-every-apt-line-they-see-in-their-sources-list[0] would use. Others would see what you had

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 05:35:01PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: It would be a start and I think that's what is needed. It needs to be started by someone, and I contend *anyone* can start it, before it will be possible to do it in full. The thing is: The autobuilders for testing-security are

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 03:25:42PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: Yes, but then if the majority of clients can send/recive HTML email, who has the compatibility problem? It doesn't matter what the clients are able to do. The majority of readers on this list don't want HTML-postings. Just like they

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:54:08PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 11:38:14AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: | These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML | e-mail in mutt. Why not? Mutt deals perfectly well with HTML e-mail if you have lynx or

Re: Bug#194190: ITP: dpkg-rebuild -- Rebuild dpkg's status file

2003-05-21 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 06:33:51PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: * Package name: dpkg-rebuild Description : Rebuild dpkg's status file. Rebuild the Debian '/var/lib/dpkg/status' file from information in '/var/lib/dpkg/available' and '/var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list'. This is useful if

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-22 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 12:17:32PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: As one of the 200+ developers in the USA I don't feel it should be avoided and I feel quite out in the cold most of the time when these conferences come around because I don't have the funds to go elsewhere. I don't see any problem

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-22 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:49:52PM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-22 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 03:33:05PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: Shall I go on? No. Michael -- -!- bunny is now known as trinityBunny trinityBunny =) * trinityBunny doubles flips in the room, slow motion rotates around jbailey waves h at him in fast motion and stands still.

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 10:12:35AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: And it generally causes confusion in bug submitters' mind: how many of them knows the difference between a fixed and a closed bug? A brief note about NMU changes incorporation in changelog and closing those bugs in BTS by

Re: More bugs.debian.org MIME work

2003-05-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid) base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form. In addition, attachments are now only

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 07:07:19PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: If your countrymen share that sort of attitute it explains why the USA is in so many wars. Yeah. We rarely suffer fools gladly. Stop it, you're killing me. People from the USA describing others as fools. One only has to look

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-26 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:15:39AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: Even that is little indicator. I know folks who's job has nothing to do with Debian, but they do more work than people who are paid to work on Debian. It's all about motivation, and no person is doing anything wrong. It's a personal

Re: Bug#190302: Misusage of changelog!

2003-05-27 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:14:28AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: To demostrate how much this issue is stupid, i'll make any one here happy by including the entire upstream changelog in changelog.Debian.gz, next time i'll build a new upstream. Didn't you just complain that people

Re: Debian Weekly News - June 3rd, 2003

2003-06-04 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 05:05:04PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Martin Schulze wrote: Flaming with Jamie Zawinski. Slow news day, Joey? I found it highly entertaining. Michael -- jbailey marcus: You *are* a dangerous person to distract. I've seen

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