that builds and uses Packages.
IOW: maintainers need to do something to go ahead with Andrea's proposal
and do nothing to see package descriptions go away from Packages.
Just looking for a bit of consideration for those situations where the
Packages file is already too large.
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implications (extra needed packages, security risk, etc).
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all that information is in and belongs to the watch files.
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is specified is what would uscan would svn export.
Ideally this would be predicated on the Final and Definitive Interface
to All VCSen Now and Future™, but I think that might be delayed by at
least a month or so.
s/month/decade?
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write a watch file like this:
I'm against sourcing anything, this is far beyond the pourpose of the watch
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a myriad of init scripts.
As Russ already said, the FHS requires that all files in /var/run be deleted
on reboot; so there's a myriad of bogus init scripts.
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Ben Finney wrote:
Raphael Geissert atomo64+deb...@gmail.com writes:
Ben Finney wrote:
* the fact that the URL doesn't necessarily indicate what VCS tool is
needed to interact with it (just about all of them allow an HTTP URL
for public read-only access, so that's what will commonly
Andreas Tille wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
One additional thought: We store packaging Vcs and upstream homepage
in debian/control. What about storing upstream Vcs there as well and
teach uscan to look there as well. Just a rough thought.
And do what with it? how
Ben Finney wrote:
Raphael Geissert atomo64+deb...@gmail.com writes:
[...]
How does bzr recognise whether it should use http or not?
I don't understand the question. I'll try to answer what might be the
question; if this doesn't answer you, please re-phrase.
Bazaar can use HTTP
Noah Slater wrote:
What about uscan being able to use custom make targets in debian/rules?
[...]
No, #458789
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then just install the new file.
A debhelper script could later ease the editing of conffiles for that
pourpose.
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option is enabled, which captures the
error message and aborts (hence the lack of any information on the report).
IOW: your watch file is broken, DEHS is fine, blame uscan
A version of uscan detecting invalid regexes should soon be available.
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a sort of list in another machine
which is unreachable atm); but the first one that comes to my mind is the
use of 'type', it's output is unreliable and in some shell interpreters it
is not implemented. Another one is 'ulimit'.
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Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Apr 12, Raphael Geissert atomo64+deb...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have a list at hand (I do have a sort of list in another machine
which is unreachable atm); but the first one that comes to my mind is the
use of 'type', it's output is unreliable and in some shell
that is
reasonable to be required please say so.
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the policy to require packages to comply with this new implementation.
It doesn’t change anything from the maintainers’ point of view, but it
avoids a useless work of formalization.
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Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 11:44 -0500, Raphael Geissert a écrit :
[...]
And taking your statement to the extreme, it means that if zsh was used
as /bin/sh then no other shell interpreter could ever be used as /bin/sh
ever again but a fork of zsh.
I’m proposing
it?;
please remain focused on the topic.)
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Romain Beauxis wrote:
Le Wednesday 22 April 2009 12:35:12 Raphael Geissert, vous avez écrit :
I think you have a wrong view, probably due to the fact that you don't
maintain or develop webapps (I might be wrong, please apologize in this
case).
I do not maintain any
are the lists of maintainers and uploaders of the packages
involved.
[1]http://lintian.debian.org/tags/debian-watch-file-should-mangle-version.html
[2]http://lintian.debian.org/tags/debian-watch-file-missing-version.html
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petsc (U)
Felipe Augusto van de
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Raphael Geissert wrote:
Once I file the bug reports I will be giving about two weeks before I
remove the hack from DEHS and later from the DDPO. The lintian check has
been around for many months now and it has given maintainers enough time
to prepare an upload
invoke uscan, thus uscan is still the only tool to
consume debian/watch.
There's also pkg-perl's PET tool, which has its own implementation of uscan,
which only supports version three (not even version two) watch files.
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What you want is basically #395439 plus a feature that could be used to
build links out of freshmeat's xml data.
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@packages.d.o is known to be the easiest way to get in touch with a
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-rc.d to restart daemons that's a bug in the package.
If invoke-rc.d is not leaving daemons alone in run-level 1 that's a bug
in it.
Then it's a bug in invoke-rc.d; on the php5 packages I wrote a workaround
that uses a file as a flag to indicate the previous state of apache.
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: not forwarded, Debian-specific
It's perfectly human and machine readable, and is pretty simple.
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All I see here is that the tools should be able to extract the information
from the changelog, which often includes a bug number and other bits of
information.
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Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
All I see here is that the tools should be able to extract the
information from the changelog, which often includes a bug number and
other bits of information.
I would say the opposite. Once you have created your patch you
[5]http://release.debian.org/lenny/goals.txt
[6]http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/04/msg00133.html
Summarising:
Unless a major blocker shows up, the switch is going to be done on the
following weeks.
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Hi,
I just noticed I forgot to say something:
What won't change:
* Bash will still be used as the default interactive shells for users
* the sh symlink won't be modified on existing installations
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John Goerzen wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 05:51:58PM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
Side effects:
* Errors caused by the use of bashisms.
And the really important side-effect is that user scripts on all sorts
of installed systems could experience trouble.
You are right, you made me
Hendrik Sattler wrote:
Am Donnerstag 25 Juni 2009 05:21:45 schrieb Raphael Geissert:
I just noticed I forgot to say something:
What won't change:
* Bash will still be used as the default interactive shells for users
* the sh symlink won't be modified on existing installations
So
Artur R. Czechowski wrote:
What about debconf question?
dash already has one, the idea is to make it essential and default to yes,
so that as soon as it is installed the symlink is changed. If you wish to
have dash installed but not as /bin/sh you can always dpkg-reconfigure
dash.
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bash playing the evil role, trying to keep some users for himself :)
to false if:
- bash is being upgraded
- the dash template does not yet exist
It's another option, yes.
Will wait some more feedback, though.
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Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
My only doubt, also stated in previous thread is the dash essential.
It is the goal of many people to remove bash (and dash) and some other
packages from essential. But at this time, it is needed.
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Yes, most of it can be automated with scripts run debhelper and cdbs.
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I would be happier of we worked out a a way for the sysadmin to
be able to specify the default shell for the machine, rather than have
Debian decide it for them.
There's already a way to do it: dpkg-reconfigure dash
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Tue, Jul 21 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
The goal of dropping bash from essential is not to remove bash from the
systems (or from Debian), it is about making packages really using it
depend on it.
Can you explain why this added dependency is a good
Hi Ian,
Ian Jackson wrote:
Raphael Geissert writes (Switching /bin/sh to dash (part two)):
* Make dash essential, make it divert the current /bin/sh symlink by
default, make another essential package depend on dash. Prompt the
user before diverting on interactive upgrades.
This needs
/bin/sh points
to?
Nobody.
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Jakub Wilk wrote:
* Raphael Geissert atomo64+deb...@gmail.com, 2009-09-08, 13:28:
Since CFQ is the default IO scheduler, this kind of tasks should be
launched with ionice -c3, no ?
But that would introduce a dependency on ionice. An option would be to use
start-stop-daemon's IO nice
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On 26/07/07, Kumar Appaiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 07:50:49PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote:
Your title= tagging has unfortunately barfed on my name, due
to the TBBle in it causing the quoted string to terminate
early.
Well, I don't think this page is necessary
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Mon, Sep 15 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote:
Bastian Blank wrote:
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 06:12:03PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le lundi 15 septembre 2008 à 10:12 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
Agreed. Either SELinux is suitable with our default setup
any pointer to a nice
introduction is useless. I do agree that there are changes that need people
to be educated first, but one can not just provide the stuff by default
without any special reference to them an expect people to adopt and use
them.
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[1] $ apropos selinux
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stuff and, while I was kidding
him, the idea just popped up..:)
Yeah, and Stefan Fritsch later filed #500087 for php too, but just too
late :-/
damn, PHP could have pwned the record of being the 50th bug in Debian,
demonstrating how buggy it is (oops ;)
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* The wrapper script could be shipped in debianutils (Essential: yes)
without making it add any kind of strong dependency on x-terminal-emulator.
(Pseudo) Cons:
* Puts a requirement to ship such a complementing script to every package
that Provides: x-terminal-emulator.
Thoughts?
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by moving all that stuff to firmware/? it could easily be stripped
from the tarball and moved to some other package. Not that I'm an expert in the
field, but I haven't seen anyone mentioning the .27 change before in the
thread.
Thomas
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Pierre Habouzit wrote:
On mar, oct 21, 2008 at 11:57:48 +, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 à 08:53 -0300, David Bremner a écrit :
So downgrading bugs to non-RC severity (with appropriate rationale)
does not count in the great cookie contest?
Of course it does count;
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
On 22/10/08 at 20:38 -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
If everything goes the way I want it to be, it won't be just lucas the one
filing reports: I asked lucas if he could do the remove/purge test in lenny
I'll do that.
Thanks :)
and
the full install/remove/purge
that will be fixed.
*cough*, what about contacting Ryan Murray? he is the one listed at buildd.d.o
weasel
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Adam D. Barratt wrote:
In this specific case, he was already CCed on Steve's mail which began
this thread...
Didn't notice it, sorry for the noise.
Adam
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the right documents it would be great.
Kind regards
T.
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to [EMAIL PROTECTED], about your proposed version=4 watch files; as I'm
about to write down my proposed watch file format specs.
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On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 20:02 -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
[1] I promised Christoph Berg that I am going to write a PHP extension,
[actually
an interface, to libapt's functions; but I haven't been lucky enough to find
the docs (libapt-pkg-doc isn't what I expected
Noah Slater wrote:
[...]
I do think the page lengths, or result count per page, could be increased.
+1
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done, b) no interaction is required via the web interface, c) validating the
incoming data is as simple as running gpg with the DDs and DMs --keyring,
md5sum -c mybatchupload.asc, and then making sure the key owner has upload
rights for those packages.
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be good.
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screenshots.
That's exactly why I suggested that feature, that's for completing my idea :)
s.d.n/outdated/sid/a
s.d.n/outdated/etch/b
Also need lists of packages without screenshots for a given dist:
s.d.n/needed/sid/a
s.d.n/needed/etch/b
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tag 504758 + help
thanks
Raphael Geissert, 2008-11-06 15:42:52 -0600 :
Package: gforge-plugins-extra
Severity: serious
Version: 4.7~rc2-5
Tags: security
Hi,
By taking a look at the list of files shipped by
gforge-plugins-extra I can easily see
I'm open for suggestions. :)
Christoph
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Is there some way to easily retrieve all postinst scripts to check how
adduser is called?
Yup, take a look at lintian.debian.org's lab in gluck.
It only contains the maintainer scripts of main/i386, though.
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but to waste it?
William
P.S. no need to reply; I just can't stand seeing this topic being brought to
discussion over and over again, always suggesting the same, silly
IMO, solutions.
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/dbase from orig tarball (Closes: #341420)
Do you mind at least contacting the maintainers?
I find your upload very impolite.
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2008/11/29 Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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On Sunday 30 November 2008 00:56, Raphael Geissert wrote:
Closes: 341420
Do you mind at least contacting the maintainers?
I find your upload very impolite.
Huh? We are in a permanent bugsquashing party, cause we want to release lenny.
Right
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2008/11/30 Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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On Sunday 30 November 2008 05:04, Raphael Geissert wrote:
Right, but it is a DFSG-freeness issue and those take time to
*properly* resolve.
That depends, sometimes removal of those bits doesnt hurt. Also, removing
those bits is usually
problem then deal with
the copies at archive.d.o, snapshot.d.n, and master.
Ben.
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could accomplish it.
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whole process just a waste of time.
I of course do not want to say that reviewing packages in -mentors is always
useless, but here again we need to deal with yet another social problem which
is the lack of willingness by some people to work on their package to get it in
shape.
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support], and others). But lets talk about that when the cal for proposals is
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Hi Charles,
Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:40:12PM -0600, Raphael Geissert a écrit :
I of course do not want to say that reviewing packages in -mentors is always
useless, but here again we need to deal with yet another social problem which
is the lack of willingness
Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2008-12-04, Raphael Geissert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Will try to work on a dh-like command (or maybe a patch against dh_strip,
depends on what Joey prefers) that will basically scan
debian/*/foo-dbg/usr/lib/debug/(*) and try to find a file under debian/*/
matching
Faidon Liambotis wrote:
Quality assurance of existing packages is a job for the QA team.
And since everybody makes part of the QA team what you are really saying
is: Quality assurance of existing packages is a job for me.
ftp-masters are doing a great, often thankless, job. Instead of just
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:48:20PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
[...]
What about encouraging those impatient folks (please don't be just exclusive
to DDs) to track down (at times from mentors.d.n) the source package and
review it themselves. Any finding should
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Barry deFreese wrote:
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stegdetect
RM: filed.
Why isn't just the xsetg package dropped? stegdetect is a CLI app; only xsteg
uses GTK+
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something that just isn't there
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w00t, didn't know Google's IM was already ported (JK).
P.S. thanks for working on it, never really found time to go through that list
(/me wanted to just RM libgtk and its rdeps).
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Note that the above is nowhere near a real decision nor intention, it is just an
idea that popped up while reading your reply, but that can of course be
elaborated.
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