can handle.
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/08/msg5.html
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Hell of an opponent and stronger than 90% of the commercial
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Would X% of Debian's other free chess engines not be a more relevant
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$(MAKE) all line in debian/rules is a better choice after all.
(In any case there is no need to check specifically whether it exists
before using it - if it doesn't, make will silently expand it to
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Henning Makholm wrote:
Another related bug type that I found lurking in my packages when I
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Henning Makholm wrote:
Another related bug type that I found lurking in my packages when I
investigated the warnings in this list, is trying to format a size_t
value with a %u or %d format string, which will break if size_t is 64
bits (unless
ought to create a tool that could easily compare the
buildd logs for a package on different architectures and flag warnings
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an interactive shell
_without_ the -a flag.
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list that being involved in development is irrelevant,
But being involved in development _is_ irrelevant as regards whether
his arguments have merit or not.
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then the default ought to send to the existing bug if the
changelog closes exactly one bug, and open a new bug report otherwise.
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A KSP that depends on there being any pre-existing trust to abuse is
*completely worthless* as a KSP whether or not that trust is abused
or not.
Ummm... There is a certain metric of pre
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is not going to change it.
good faith would have been to present the official ID and extend
the web of trust.
A security mechanism that only works in the non-presense of fraudsters
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How does sending directly to from reportbug to an ISP's smarthost
validate the user's email address better than sending directly from
reportbug to a HTTP POST somewhere?
I'm talking about an HTTP access
for
external SMTP or IMAP addresses. I have no doubt that it would gladly
_accept_ such a specification if I needed to and cared to look up how
to configure it, but the _default_ configuration is to use the
_default_ mail transport mechanism in Debian, which is how it should be.
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would need to know it.
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Why not just install some software that can speak SMTP as the chroot's
/usr/bin/sendmail? E.g. nullmailer.
nullmailer is, in general, broken.
Then something else. One can easily
). The (Essential) coreutils
package provides a userspace binary /bin/ln which makes these calls
available to shell scripts.
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method for using mailers in way you want to use.
/usr/sbin/sendmail _is_ an abstract method for sending mail through
the transport configured by the system administrator.
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Why not just install some software that can speak SMTP as the chroot's
/usr/bin
you think the problem is?
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The point is that they could if the wanted to. And if they did, it
would work for _all_ programs, not just particular perl scripts that
happen to use some obscure perl module to send mails.
mail
setting up a chroot
maildrop, and while there are packages to do this, using some module that
can speak SMTP is often the path of least resistance.
Why not just install some software that can speak SMTP as the chroot's
/usr/bin/sendmail? E.g. nullmailer.
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policy, LSB, etc?
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with $arch chosen (somehow) appropriately for a default python
interpreter.
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Henning Makholm wrote:
Can tasksel tasks be manipulated programmatically with the same
apt/aptitude inferfaces that metapackages can?
This question does not have a yes or no answer, the situation is rather
more complex than that.
Concretely: In order
?
If yes: Then how do they differ from packages, and how to we need a
secondary concept at all?
If no: Then I would very much like to keep the metapackages I use as
ordinary packages, thank you.
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think that version diffs should be a maintainer-default keyword, for
the reason you cite. (But I'm not personally affected by the choice
either way, so my opinion may not be important).
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all I meant
in English, but being able to see more lines at a
time should benefit everybody who want or need more control than just
accepting all of the defaults.
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versions inbetween?
Why do you have an -X component in the package name, if the 0.5.2.0 is
the full upstream version number? Seems superfluous to me.
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installation option, even a light one. There, I think, the defining
characteristic is that one can get work done *without* meeting any
command lines in one's day-to-day use of the computer.
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download option which I have not tried, but it may be more explicitly
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in particular as work worth money would be far out of proportion.
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the simplest and most direct way to test your hypothesis that
that particular package update is the cause of your problem. (And, yes
it _it_ the clever way to start, rather than trying to dig into code
changes that may and may not be related to the effect you're seeing).
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For a more complete definition of the term coroutine see The Art of
Computer Programming by Donald E. Knuth.
I nominate this for the 2006 Most Precise Literature Reference in a
Package Description award.
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Only for some pretty strange values of worthless. AFAIU the only
legal effect of the notice requirements you cite is as defined by
subsection (d): if a compliant notice is present
. LaTeX programs
are not being _compiled_; they are being _executed_ and their output
are page descriptions.
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know that the work was subject to copyright. The only difference is
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The generated autofoo stuff does not end up in the .deb, so the
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And we ignore any (C) FSF in generated autofoo stuff.
The generated autofoo stuff does not end up in the .deb, so the
copyright file needs not describe it.
It often ends up in the source
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Listmasters have been trying to
identify the responsible subscriber with no luck
Why not just 500 all posts from sites known to use challenge-response?
The challenges are send directly from
is _not_ at uol.com.br, inform listmaster at
lists.debian.org with as much documentation as you can get, in
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with an older one.
Probably a better solution would be to rename libfoo-dev to
libfoo1-dev such that if packages that link to libfoo1 reach stable
there will still be a way to rebuild them for security updates without
adding the new-bug risks of switching to a new implementation of the
library.
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Please, people, the mere fact that we have an expulsion procedure should
*not* mean that we have to invoke it twice in a few weeks.
Hear, hear!
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for the LONG_TEXT_FILE string.
(It does prevent executing arbitrary code taken from the environment
variable _instead_ of dying horribly).
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sentence from Jacobo Tarrio seems to use not distributable
in sense (b). Since this is not in fact -legal, I assume that we all
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you are not francois massaquoi's son
Indeed I am not. I see nothing can be hidden from you.
Rather a brilliant display of observation and deduction, actually.
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ever even looked at kernel source.
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reacting to the (to me) evident uselessness of the proposed package.
[1] Except that I think it grossly overstates the strangeness of what
is just a straightforward if rather verbose encoding of a well-known
computation model, but that is not the packager's fault.
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* License : BSD-like
Description : Brainfuck compiler
What is this useful for?
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for years and is a
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commands:
Basically just a horrible way to write down counter machines. Who
would use that for anything?
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presumably non-free and certainly not in main themselves. Yet I have
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It is easier to just do it right from the beginning.
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Scripsit Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am Dienstag, 28. Februar 2006 21:26 schrieb Henning Makholm:
Further, providing an .orig.tar.gz without the debian/ directory helps
prevent confusion for users on non-Debian systems.
On the other side, some user may find it very useful
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under a viral license ;-) And, more important,
is not covered by copyright law
Even more important: Debian does not distribute kittens at all.
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Henning Makholm wrote:
You are supposed to write an appropriate shlibs file, as described in
policy �8.6. Have you done so?
My file is currently automatically generated by dh_shlibdeps, and says
libargtable2 0 libargtable2-0.
No it isn't
. But that does not seem quite the Debian way of
doing things.
(On a related note, will I lose my position in the NEW queue by
uploading improved versions of the package before it is accepted?)
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be helpful, because I don't have the time to read up on
it now, but will want to when you file the first bug on my pkgs,
FWIW, I agree with both of these points.
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that users upgrading from sarge to etch won't be needlessly bothered.
I still maintain that the information provided was useful,
Whether it is useful is the wrong question. Lots of things are
useful but still not relevant to spam the sysadmin with during
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for pointing out that imagemagick does have some support for
layers. This wasn't apparent to me the first 20 times I read the
manpage :-)
(In related news, an xcftools package is now in the NEW queue).
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fields, unless the maintainer agrees to have his name on it.
You seem to require a standard of attribution in the Maintainer field
that Debian does not itself follow in our default procedures. To wit:
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are not permitted to change the ECW file format.
This, however, directly kills DFSG-freedom as well as GPL compatibility.
If the library is actually linked with GPL code, as the authors seem
to expect, the entire think becomes legally undistributable even in
non-free.
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often just hit ^C to
exit after upgrading, instead of waiting ages for all the updating
random stuff #11, very slowly... 2% stuff to finish before I can
type q
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How on earth do you manage to interpret promote the easy entry points
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while they figure out
how to fix the problem.
On the other hand, I do not think that most of the bugs in our BTS are
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(Of course², nobody said that this will be easy to do for any
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Alternatively each user can spread his load over all three servers;
his download now takes 5 minutes, and each server _still_ sees
600*5 = 3000 active connections at any time. Thus _all_ users
at the end of
such links would have little use for parallelism in the first place.
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RFC2822 representation.
Is this worth a package of its own? It's not as if generating RFC2822
dates in perl is hard - there are twoliners easily googleable.
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*shrug* The computer security folks at that university started
spreading FUD about various security systems, mainly rehashing the
work of others. They seem to be in it mostly for the publicity.
More ad hominem arguing.
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Henning Makholm Jeg mener, at der
Scripsit Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:15:34PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
I would expect something like
$ dsum -a sha1 COPYING; sha1sum COPYING
s.w4runjyMTV1ZT_VIob4FRTAjAW1ihpMfZRLbIV7B_UI COPYING
sha1sum already exists; and isn't that long. Do you
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