Re: Building Debian from Sources

2008-12-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Mustafa KYR wrote: Hello, I am a new engineer and I was just a debian user in my former life. I want to build debian linux from sources to understand it all. I spent lots of time during search about it. I'm not sure how much building from source will help your understanding, but anyway,

Accepted istanbul 0.2.2-4.1 (source powerpc)

2008-10-31 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:49:01 +0100 Source: istanbul Binary: istanbul Architecture: source powerpc Version: 0.2.2-4.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Luca Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.18.0-2 (source all mips)

2008-10-25 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:06:48 +0100 Source: sbcl Binary: sbcl sbcl-doc sbcl-source Architecture: source all mips Version: 1:1.0.18.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL

Accepted lcdproc 0.5.2-1.2 (source powerpc)

2008-10-02 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:06:08 +0200 Source: lcdproc Binary: lcdproc Architecture: source powerpc Version: 0.5.2-1.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Jose Luis Tallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL

Accepted python2.4 2.4.5-5.2 (source all mips)

2008-09-29 Thread Thiemo Seufer
: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: idle-python2.4 - An IDE for Python (v2.4) using Tkinter python2.4 - An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.4) python2.4-dbg - Debug Build of the Python

Accepted python2.4 2.4.5-5.1 (source all mips)

2008-09-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: idle-python2.4 - An IDE for Python (v2.4) using Tkinter python2.4 - An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.4) python2.4-dbg - Debug Build of the Python

Accepted python2.5 2.5.2-11.1 (source all mips)

2008-09-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
: medium Maintainer: Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: idle-python2.5 - An IDE for Python (v2.5) using Tkinter python2.5 - An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.5) python2.5-dbg - Debug Build of the Python Interpreter

Accepted gnudatalanguage 0.9~rc1-1.1 (source powerpc)

2008-08-19 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:00:55 +0200 Source: gnudatalanguage Binary: gnudatalanguage Architecture: source powerpc Version: 0.9~rc1-1.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Gürkan Sengün [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo

Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.18.0-1 (source all mips)

2008-07-05 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:00:48 +0100 Source: sbcl Binary: sbcl sbcl-doc sbcl-source Architecture: source all mips Version: 1:1.0.18.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL

Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.17.0-1 (source all mips)

2008-06-02 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:27:19 +0100 Source: sbcl Binary: sbcl sbcl-doc sbcl-source Architecture: source all mips Version: 1:1.0.17.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL

Re: Current build status of the mips port

2008-05-19 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Luk Claes wrote: Hi Thiemo Thanks for this status report. Thiemo Seufer wrote: I went again through the mips build problems and collected the appended list which records the current state, with a few annotations added. Needs retry --- All given back when still needed

Current build status of the mips port

2008-05-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
I went again through the mips build problems and collected the appended list which records the current state, with a few annotations added. Thiemo Debian mips port, status 2007-05-16. See also: http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/architecture.php?suite=unstablea=mipspriority=

Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.16.0-2 (source all mips)

2008-05-03 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 08:28:53 +0100 Source: sbcl Binary: sbcl sbcl-doc sbcl-source Architecture: source all mips Version: 1:1.0.16.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL

Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.16.0-1 (source all mips)

2008-05-02 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: sbcl - A Common Lisp compiler and development system sbcl-doc - Documentation for Steel Bank Common Lisp sbcl-source - Source code files for SBCL Changes: sbcl (1:1.0.16.0-1) unstable; urgency=low . * Re-allow builds for alpha and sparc

Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.15.0-2 (source all mips)

2008-04-04 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:37:57 + Source: sbcl Binary: sbcl sbcl-doc sbcl-source Architecture: source all mips Version: 1:1.0.15.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-01 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Charles Plessy wrote: Le Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:40:57AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt a écrit : Due to kernel problems, the mips* buildds haven't been very reliable in the past few weeks, creating a lng backlog of packages that need to be built. As there seems to be a workaround for

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-08 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Neil Williams wrote: [snip] As noted elsewhere in this thread, --build can be specified alone but is usually only used for specialist builds for i686 on i386 etc. I fail to see the merit of proposing that packages add --build to the normal Debian build for no reason. One reason is that a

FYI: Current package build status for the mips port

2007-11-03 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Hello All, I went through the whole set of failing builds for mips, fixed some bugs and had at least a cursory look at each package. The result is the rather terse list I append here. Thiemo Debian mips port, buildability status 2007-11-03. See also:

Accepted sibyl-installer 1.10 (source mipsel)

2007-09-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:37:54 +0100 Source: sibyl-installer Binary: sibyl-installer Architecture: source mipsel Version: 1.10 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted colo-installer 1.10 (source mipsel)

2007-09-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:18:09 +0100 Source: colo-installer Binary: colo-installer Architecture: source mipsel Version: 1.10 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, news and difference between archs

2007-08-22 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Raphael Hertzog wrote: [snip] 2/ Second example, libconfig0 has a supplementary symbols _PROCEDURE_LINKAGE_TABLE_ on sparc and alpha. I don't know where it comes from. Is this a internal symbols that I missed? On powerpc it has _SDA_BASE_ and _SDA2_BASE_. Same question as above. On amd64 it

Re: Question about toolchain and objdump's output on ia64/mips/mipsel

2007-08-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hello, while working on http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/ImprovedDpkgShlibdeps I'm discovering some arch-specific differences in the objdump -T output of libraries. * On ia64, static functions appear in objdump's output and they are marked as local. See my

Re: Bits from the debian-cd team; more CD/DVDs being built regularly

2006-12-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Steve McIntyre wrote: [snip] mips jealously scribbles all over the first 512 bytes I figure that's a DVH Disk Volume Header as used on SGI machines. mipsel == bytes 000-008 : 0-padding 008-011 : magic header 012-015 : boot mode 016-019 : load address

Accepted libdebian-installer 0.47 (source mips)

2006-11-22 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Version: 0.47 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libdebian-installer-extra4 - Library of some extra debian-installer functions libdebian-installer-extra4-udeb - Library of some extra debian-installer functions

Re: Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-02 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 11:53:32PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can also note why bazaar wont build as root: its test suite includes a test for the ability to handle read only directories correctly. As root, anything

Re: Dropping an architecture from a package

2006-10-29 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Ian Wienand wrote: Hi, One of my packages (numactl) has dropped support for two architectures. I would very much like the new package to make it into testing, but it of course fails the up-to-date on previous architectures rule. I thought if I had removed the architectures the scripts

Re: gcc-4.1 [gfdl] documentation packages for non-free

2006-09-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Hello. I'm one of those people beaten by recent removal of gcc documentation. Both myself and people to whom I recommend Debian, *need* gcc documentation to be available in the system. So I had four options: - start a new flamewar on the issue, - stop to

Accepted arcboot-installer 1.4 (source mips)

2006-07-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:35:01 +0100 Source: arcboot-installer Binary: arcboot-installer Architecture: source mips Version: 1.4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted delo-installer 1.3 (source mipsel)

2006-07-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:21:34 +0100 Source: delo-installer Binary: delo-installer Architecture: source mipsel Version: 1.3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted gcc-2.95 2.95.4.ds15-25 (source all mips)

2006-06-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
++2.10-dev libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 g++-2.95 g77-2.95 gcc-2.95-doc Architecture: source mips all Version: 2.95.4.ds15-25 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chill-2.95 - The GNU CHILL compiler cpp-2.95 - The GNU

Re: glibc built with gcc-4.1 (update)

2006-05-30 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Falk Hueffner wrote: Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Falk Hueffner a écrit : Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On arm, ia64 and alpha the glibc fails to build with gcc-4.1. On Alpha the problem is: {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:341: Error:

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:07:22PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: The obvious example is the UK, which insists on checking your passport if you come from the mainland. Passport or ID Card, that is. The www.britishembassy.gov.uk website suggests EEA

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 25 May 2006, Andreas Tille spake thusly: On Thu, 25 May 2006, Manoj Srivastava wrote: It has come to my attention that Martin Kraff used an unofficial, and easily forge-able, identity device at a large key Is there any reason to revoke my signature I have

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-21 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nathanael Nerode wrote: [snip] The installer can use whatever seems most appropriate (does it even log?): The installer does log and puts the logs at /var/log/debian-installer/ on the successfully installed system. If the installation fails, the logs (in the installer ramdisk) are a valuable

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Carlos Correia wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Weimer escreveu: | * Jeroen van Wolffelaar: | | |Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free |section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new |license: the Operating

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Francesco Poli wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:02:34 + Brian M. Carlson wrote: [For -legal people, the license is attached.] Thanks. [...] Also, section 4 poses a major issue. If, for any reason, the Linux kernel doesn't do something that Java requires, then we are obligated to

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote: Being able to install multiple versions is some use to multiarch, but could also be used for other things, such if two packages provide the same binary (git for example). Or to install multiple 'version 'numbers' of the same package. The big problem

Accepted sibyl-installer 1.5 (source mips)

2006-05-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:39:20 +0100 Source: sibyl-installer Binary: sibyl-installer Architecture: source mips Version: 1.5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted colo-installer 1.5 (source mipsel)

2006-05-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 23:05:10 +0100 Source: colo-installer Binary: colo-installer Architecture: source mipsel Version: 1.5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Bug#366834: ITP: cxxtools -- library of unrelated, but useful C++ classes

2006-05-11 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Frank Küster wrote: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:46:22PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Kari Pahula [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.05.11.1535 +0200]: * License : GPL v2 or later That will make it pretty useless for non-GPL

Re: Bug#366834: ITP: cxxtools -- library of unrelated, but useful C++ classes

2006-05-11 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Frank Küster wrote: Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:46:22PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Kari Pahula [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.05.11.1535 +0200]: * License

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-11 Thread Thiemo Seufer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have created a new page in the wiki to track info and status http://wiki.debian.org/multiarch I looked at the upstream standards proposal: http://lackof.org/taggart/hacking/multiarch/ It's good. I am particularly pleased by the specification: The terms

Re: System users and valid shells...

2006-05-08 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Marc Haber wrote: On Fri, 05 May 2006 11:12:35 +0300, Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard A Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Colin Watson wrote: The rest of the system accounts are happily running with /bin/false There is now /bin/nologin which is more secure

Re: System users and valid shells...

2006-05-08 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Gabor Gombas wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:00:42AM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: You can surely explain why /bin/nologin is more secure than /bin/false. I'm eager to learn. I am curious why any of both would be more secure than /dev/null, a place which makes it hard to smuggle

Re: System users and valid shells...

2006-05-08 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Gabor Gombas wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 11:53:15AM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: Such a binary is completely broken, and it would fail in a similiar way for any sort of file it has no execute permission for, not only for $SHELL. Sure, but that does not change the fact

Re: Compiling packages for the standard distribution with -Os instead of -O2

2006-05-05 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:02:57AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: For Etch and Sid, it is probably a good idea to use -Os instead of -O2 at least on the bigger arches (ia32, ia64, amd64, etc), as we can probably trust gcc not to screw up. If gcc

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Linas Žvirblis wrote: Joey Hess wrote: By this lie of reasoning the only task that Debian can afford to ship is either KDE or Gnome. No, not at all. That is not what I was trying to say. KDE and GNOME were examples of something that did not happen overnight. They proved worthy of

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Ognyan Kulev wrote: Hamish Moffatt wrote: HAM is not an acronym, so Ham Radio would be more appropriate. Even better (IMHO) is the full term Amateur Radio, but some may disagree. I've CC'd debian-hams for their input also. Is there a problem with using Amateur (Ham) Radio? It is

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 14 Apr 2006, Thiemo Seufer told this: Ognyan Kulev wrote: Hamish Moffatt wrote: HAM is not an acronym, so Ham Radio would be more appropriate. Even better (IMHO) is the full term Amateur Radio, but some may disagree. I've CC'd debian-hams for their input

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: 2006/4/13, Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le Jeu 13 Avril 2006 15:20, Linas Žvirblis a écrit : I think this would be better than a meta package because it would be available in the regular install, and it would avoid some of the issues with

Re: project machine architecture aliases

2006-03-26 Thread Thiemo Seufer
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 03:09:11PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: Hi, I have another wishful thinking idea for build machines to float. Suppose I get a bug report saying my package has failed to build on architecture glooble. I don't personally have a globle machine. To debug the

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: [snip] There's also kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}, so why don't you use uclibc-i386? Actually, I disagree. To me it makes perfect sense the way it currently is, namely: kernel-arch-libc kernel and libc can be empty when

Re: sysklogd -17.1 NMU build broken in mips/mipsel

2006-02-23 Thread Thiemo Seufer
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 08:47:31PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 12:22:27AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Chris Stromsoe wrote: for the entire lifetime of the current stable release. Will -17.1 be making its way into stable any

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-12-10 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Heiko Müller wrote: Dear Thiemo, we very much appreciate your work on the gcc-2.95 debian package. For us - and probably also for other users in the scientific community - the old compiler version is still of great value. We use gcc-2.95 to compile C/C++ code with very large mathematical

Re: buildd administration

2005-12-10 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: [snip] A similar issue I noted in the past is the big number of build failures that don't get tagged 'Failed'. I tried working on classifying them, but got bored so increadibly fast that I gave up, and decided for myself this should be something the porters should

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Steve Langasek wrote: [snip] So those should get added to P-a-s instead. Well, but that'd be something for the buildd-admin to collect. (Or maintainers of the packages, but that doesn't seem to fashionable nowadays...) Um... no. This is *porter* work; one does not have to be a buildd

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Thomas Viehmann wrote: Hi Steve, Steve Langasek wrote: Ok. Here's some feedback on some that I either disagree with, or don't see enough rationale for. (This is why, ideally, the process should involve the porters and the maintainers...) Thanks. Doesn't hurt do get educated...

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Steve Langasek wrote: [snip] -grub2: !hppa !ia64 m68k # bootloader +grub2: !hppa !ia64 !m68k !alpha !mips !mipsel !s390 !sparc # bootloader for i386/powerpc [?] Is a P-a-s entry some sort of a final verdict? I don't think it makes

Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-05 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Thomas Viehmann wrote: Hi, Vincent Sanders wrote: [1] http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/architecture.php?a=arm taking a random (end of alphabet) sample from maybe-failed: twinkle: requeue (probably libccrtp was stuck in NEW) wvstreams: Dep-Wait (libxplc0.3.13-dev) - dep in new

Accepted partitioner 0.32 (source mips)

2005-11-30 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:04:22 + Source: partitioner Binary: partitioner Architecture: source mips Version: 0.32 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Norbert Preining wrote: Hi all! On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Miles Bader wrote: nicely as texlive-lang-tibetan and texlive-fonts-recommended. On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Rogério Brito wrote: texlive-binaries-source 96M texlive-basicbin What about texlive-bin-base? As I said, it

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Andrew Vaughan wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:28, Thiemo Seufer wrote: FWIW, Debian package names prefer e.g. foo-en-uk-doc over foo-documentation-ukenglish. This allows to filter documentation packages by name (doc-* or *-doc), and following the standardized ISO abbreviations also seems

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Norbert Preining wrote: [snip] For the language stuff: Here is a problem as some languages packages are not *one* single language, but several (arabic, cjk, other). So would it be the best solution to have old:texlive-langX new:texlive--lang ? Arabic is ar, IIRC.

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-english texlive-en-doc Best wishes Norbert In [1], Thiemo Seufer asserts that FWIW, Debian package names prefer e.g. foo-en-uk-doc over foo-documentation-ukenglish. I completely disagree. The point was about documentation and ukenglish. There is already precedent for using

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-25 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Brian May wrote: Thiemo == Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, even if I know naught about it, it looks to me that having something signed is better than having the same something not signed. Thiemo Sorry, but that's a snake oil rationale. A: Why do you lock

Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Rafael Laboissiere wrote: [Please, Cc: to me, I am not currently subscribed to debian-devel.] * Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-24 02:13]: Stephen Gran wrote: FWIW, Rafael, at first blush I have to say I agree with you. A maintainer address in Debian is just a way to get

Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephen Gran wrote: [snip] The maintainer name and email address used in the changelog should be the details of the person uploading this version. They are not necessarily those of the usual package maintainer. [snip] I think that are two distinct concepts here. The

Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephen Gran wrote: [snip] And we are in danger of allowing policy to drive practice, rather than vice versa. The problem is, there are many packages currently being group maintained. These groups generally have some sort of group contact email address: grep-dctrl -n -s Maintainer ''

Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Thiemo Seufer said: Btw, about this simple-minded test: 299 of those are maintained by the Debian Install System Team, and nobody there felt compelled to put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the changelog for whatever reason. What is the difference

Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Thiemo Seufer said: Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Thiemo Seufer said: Btw, about this simple-minded test: 299 of those are maintained by the Debian Install System Team, and nobody there felt compelled to put

Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Isaac Clerencia wrote: On Thursday, 24 November 2005 22:03, Stephen Gran wrote: But the .dsc is. This stuff is easily traceable, if we want to. I can see the benefit of having the same name in the Maintainer field and in the changelog for some. I can see arguments against it, but none

Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Isaac Clerencia wrote: On Thursday, 24 November 2005 22:36, Thiemo Seufer wrote: I can see arguments against it, but none that make it an RC bug. Policy violations are RC by definition. According to policy should's are not RC. Policy 5.6.4 has no should. Thiemo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-23 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Rafael Laboissiere said: I am moving this discussion to debian-devel, since I am not sure we are really violating the Policy. Feel free to move it further to debian-policy, if you think it is appropriate. FWIW, Rafael, at first blush I

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-23 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Marc Haber wrote: [snip] How is it possible for you to claim something is more secure when you don't understand it well enough to say how it's different? Well, even if I know naught about it, it looks to me that having something signed is better than having the same something not signed.

Accepted gcc-2.95 2.95.4.ds15-24 (mips all source)

2005-11-18 Thread Thiemo Seufer
++2.10-dev libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 g++-2.95 g77-2.95 gcc-2.95-doc Architecture: mips all source Version: 2.95.4.ds15-24 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chill-2.95 - The GNU CHILL compiler cpp-2.95 - The GNU

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Mark Brown wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:30:00PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: The need for gcc-2.95 usually means the source code is broken (in C99 terms) and should be fixed. Do you have an example of an use case where this is unfeasible, and which is important enough to justify

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Dave Carrigan wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:00:06PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: this makes it IMHO a plausible release goal to get rid of 2.95 maintenance for etch. No it is not. Just because debian packages don't use 2.95 doesn't mean

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Thiemo Seufer wrote: Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: [snip] Also, people have some code (old completed internal projects, etc), which probably would never be ported to newer C++ standards (it's plainly too big job), but which are still useful to keep working - e.g. for demonstration

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: In linux.debian.devel, you wrote: The need for gcc-2.95 usually means the source code is broken (in C99 terms) and should be fixed. Do you have an example of an use case where this is unfeasible, and which is important enough to justify continued maintenance of

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: The need for gcc-2.95 usually means the source code is broken (in C99 terms) and should be fixed. Do you have an example of an use case where this is unfeasible, and which is important enough to justify continued maintenance of gcc 2.95? Device driver

State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-15 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Hello All, while preparing an upload of gcc-2.95 which fixes its worst problems I wondered how many users of it are actually left. 9 packages in unstable still declare a build dependency on gcc-2.95 or g++-2.95, this makes it IMHO a plausible release goal to get rid of 2.95 maintenance for etch.

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-15 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Dave Carrigan wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:00:06PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: this makes it IMHO a plausible release goal to get rid of 2.95 maintenance for etch. No it is not. Just because debian packages don't use 2.95 doesn't mean that end users have the same luxury. The need

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-15 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Steve M. Robbins wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:00:06PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: Malloc debugging, #285685 suggests it is broken for 300 days now, either update or remove: Steve M. Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ccmalloc Build-Depends: g++-2.95 [alpha arm i386

Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-15 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Ben Pfaff wrote: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unacknowledged NMU for one year, either update or remove: Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] gcccheckerBuild-Depends: gcc-2.95 I recently filed a request to have this package removed. It is not maintained upstream

Accepted gcc-2.95 2.95.4.ds15-23 (source i386 all)

2005-11-15 Thread Thiemo Seufer
++2.10-dev libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 g++-2.95 g77-2.95 gcc-2.95-doc Architecture: source i386 all Version: 2.95.4.ds15-23 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian GCC maintainers debian-gcc@lists.debian.org Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chill-2.95 - The GNU

Accepted linux-patch-2.6-mips 2.6.12-3 (source mips)

2005-11-08 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-image-r4k-ip22 Architecture: source mips Version: 2.6.12-3 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip27 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SGI Origin linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip30

Re: ncpfs_2.2.6-2_mipsel: FTBFS: internal compiler error: Floating point exception

2005-11-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:01:26AM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: Package: ncpfs Severity: serious Version: 2.2.6-2 Tags: sid Justification: fails to build from source There was an error while trying to autobuild your package: Automatic build of

Re: more tolerant licensing for Debian infrastructure

2005-11-03 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: [was Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program] On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Matthew Garrett wrote: Remember that dpkg is GPLed, so there's a slightly awkward bootstrapping issue. This reminds me of an issue which I feel needs change but I've never felt worked up

Re: more tolerant licensing for Debian infrastructure

2005-11-03 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Thiemo Seufer wrote: Why do programs written specifically for Debian such as dpkg or apt, have a license which is not compatible with some other DFSG-compliant licenses? Because the authors chose so. Obviously. But the question was why

Accepted linux-patch-2.6-mips 2.6.12-2 (source mips)

2005-10-21 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-image-r4k-ip22 Architecture: source mips Version: 2.6.12-2 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip27 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SGI Origin linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip30

Accepted kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips 2.4.27-11.040815-2 (source mips)

2005-10-07 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-image-2.4.27-r5k-lasat kernel-image-2.4.27-r3k-kn02 kernel-image-2.4.27-r5k-cobalt kernel-image-2.4.27-r5k-ip22 Architecture: source mips Version: 2.4.27-11.040815-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description

Re: What do you do if a package is built and not uploaded?

2005-10-01 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Nathanael Nerode] I'm thinking of python2.1, which is a key element in some testing transitions. It's out of date on alpha, mips, mipsel, and powerpc -- *yet the buildd logs indicate successful builds on all of them on August 30*. I have already emailed

Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread Thiemo Seufer
W. Borgert wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:45:26AM +0930, Debonaras Project Lead wrote: The Debonaras project (http://www.debonaras.org) is a group of Linux developers who have created the beginnings of a big-endian ARM (armeb) port of Debian. We have built 2500+ stable packages so far

Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Simon Richter wrote: Hi, Wrong is endian little that knows everyone but. Thgir yltcaxe! eurtub ,iw ta llobynt ydknih fo ehtlihcnerd? ac si tIirc delldne elpp ssennaire a rof-: .nosa ) Thiemo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Accepted arcboot 0.3.8.7 (source mips)

2005-09-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:15:35 +0200 Source: arcboot Binary: arcboot tip22 Architecture: source mips Version: 0.3.8.7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted linux-patch-2.6-mips 2.6.12-1 (source mips)

2005-09-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-image-r4k-ip22 Architecture: source mips Version: 2.6.12-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip27 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SGI Origin linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip30

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata

2005-09-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
John Hasler wrote: Petter Reinholdtsen writes: We have the the same limitation in norwegian law, were the work need to have (the norwegian expression) verkshøyde, which implies a certain quality level as Andreas puts it. Do you mean quality or originality? The amount of creativity the

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating w iki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

2005-09-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Jesús M. Navarro wrote: Hi, Andreas: El Martes, 06 Septiembre 2005 18:20, Andreas Schuldei escribió: * Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-09-06 17:39:06]: Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by law should be sufficient for the wiki content in most

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata

2005-09-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Computer programs are exempted from that requirement. The work needs to have some kind of creative art. Without any quality judgement, correct. This doesn't leave anything of interest out. Trivial programs are also not

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata

2005-09-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
John Hasler wrote: [snip] Are you saying that if I write a highly original stream of conciousness novel that is judged by the critics to be of abysmal literary quality that I will be denied a copyright in Norway? Thiemo Seufer writes: If the average audience consistently says

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