Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-19 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Igor Stroh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-06 22:10]:
 From what I can tell, cantus3 doesn't actually provide all of the
  functionality originally present in cantus.
 
 And it won't either -- the upstream is unresponsive and seems to
 have no interest neither in incorporating bug fixes nor in adding
 features which the package formerly claimed to be offering[0].

 I'd suggest to remove cantus3 from the archive if it wouldn't
 have so many users (according to popcon.d.o) - there are better

Has there been any agreement about what to do with cantus and cantus3?
Since you're the maintainer of cantus3 and you suggest it's removal,
can you go ahead and file a bug report on ftp.d.o?  Should cantus be
removed too?
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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-19 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-03 14:54]:
 I intend to ask for removal of the following packages in the next
 few days unless someone is willing to step up as maintainer.  All of
 these packages have been orphaned for over 60 days and have never
 been part of a stable release; none of them have any reverse
 (build-)dependencies.
...

I will now ask for removal of these packages, with the exception of:

 - cantus/cantus3: situation unclear; waiting for maintainer of
   cantus3 to decide

 - bbconf: will be adopted

 - langband/langband-data: will be adopted

 - audio-cd: someone has indicated interest in this

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Orphaning cantus3 [was: Re: Upcoming removals]

2005-05-19 Thread Igor Stroh
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Igor Stroh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-06 22:10]:
From what I can tell, cantus3 doesn't actually provide all of the
functionality originally present in cantus.
And it won't either -- the upstream is unresponsive and seems to
have no interest neither in incorporating bug fixes nor in adding
features which the package formerly claimed to be offering[0].

I'd suggest to remove cantus3 from the archive if it wouldn't
have so many users (according to popcon.d.o) - there are better

Has there been any agreement about what to do with cantus and cantus3?
Since you're the maintainer of cantus3 and you suggest it's removal,
can you go ahead and file a bug report on ftp.d.o?
I don't like the idea of removing cantus3 right away, maybe there's 
someone who's actually using it and is willing to take over its' 
maintenance.

Anyone up to adopt it?
If nobody speaks up, I'll request a removal.
 Should cantus be removed too?
Yes, imho it's outdated. I'll file a bug report against ftp.d.o.
Cheers,
Igor
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Re: Orphaning cantus3 [was: Re: Upcoming removals]

2005-05-19 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Igor Stroh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-20 01:18]:
 Has there been any agreement about what to do with cantus and cantus3?
 Since you're the maintainer of cantus3 and you suggest it's removal,
 can you go ahead and file a bug report on ftp.d.o?
 
 I don't like the idea of removing cantus3 right away, maybe there's 
 someone who's actually using it and is willing to take over its' 
 maintenance.

Maybe it should be removed from sarge but stay in unstable for now?

  Should cantus be removed too?
 Yes, imho it's outdated. I'll file a bug report against ftp.d.o.

No, reassign the existing WNPP bug to ftp.d.o.
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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-09 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 11:26:34PM -0400, Bruno Barrera C. wrote:
 On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 00:24 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
  
  Your latest comment in #259581 is completely different from this --
  please keep the relevant wnpp bug in the loop for stuff like this!
  
  Specifically, your latest recorded comment about bbconf is No, I will
  not take care about bbconf, so I really think that you should
  file a removal request.
  
  --Jeroen
  
 
 I think you didn't read my first email.

My point was Not wanting to maintain it != Saying that you think it
should be removed from unstable, while on -devel you elaborated that
you agree with the first, but disagree with the second -- which isn't
clear at all from the wnpp buglog. I still suggest at least mentioning
there that you think it should not be removed.
 
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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-08 Thread Bruno Barrera C.
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:01 -0400, Bruno Barrera C. wrote:
 
 So, I recently sent an email to the bbconf upstream to know if they're
 going to keep working on it. Therefore, I think that we should wait a
 bit to know his answers and then I will reply.

Quoting Upstream:

Hm.  Well, I agree, it's broken temporarily.  I've not had time to
update 
bbconf to work with the latest release of bbkeys.  I will try to get to
it in 
the next couple of weeks.  I'd like to see it not dropped.  =:)

thanks!!  =:)

So, I think that we should wait before drop it. I will work with him in
order to fix the bugs fast.
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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-08 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 03:01:16PM -0400, Bruno Barrera C. wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 14:54 +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
  I intend to ask for removal of the following packages in the next few
  days unless someone is willing to step up as maintainer.  All of these
  packages have been orphaned for over 60 days and have never been part
  of a stable release; none of them have any reverse (build-)dependencies.
  
  
  #259581: O: bbconf -- A Blackbox configuration utility
  Reported by: Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 291 days old.
 
 As Maintainer of blackbox and bbkeys, I'm interested to know what is 
 going on with this package.
 
 Like I said, I don't want to maintain bbconf, but the blackbox and
 bbkeys upstream is alive again, and they incorporated into its
 description that bbconf should work with that programs.
 
 So, I recently sent an email to the bbconf upstream to know if they're
 going to keep working on it. Therefore, I think that we should wait a
 bit to know his answers and then I will reply.

Your latest comment in #259581 is completely different from this --
please keep the relevant wnpp bug in the loop for stuff like this!

Specifically, your latest recorded comment about bbconf is No, I will
not take care about bbconf, so I really think that you should
file a removal request.

--Jeroen

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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-08 Thread Bruno Barrera C.
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 00:24 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
 
 Your latest comment in #259581 is completely different from this --
 please keep the relevant wnpp bug in the loop for stuff like this!
 
 Specifically, your latest recorded comment about bbconf is No, I will
 not take care about bbconf, so I really think that you should
 file a removal request.
 
 --Jeroen
 

I think you didn't read my first email.

Quoting myself:

Like I said, I don't want to maintain bbconf, but the blackbox and
bbkeys upstream is alive again, and they incorporated into its
description that bbconf should work with that programs.

In fact, I don't wanted to maintain bbconf, but since upstream replied
that he would work in order to keep it working with bbkeys and blackbox
(and their upstreams are alive again too), I will take care about it.

Ehm, you're right, I will send an explanation to the WNPP bug.
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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-07 Thread Bruno Barrera C.
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 14:54 +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 I intend to ask for removal of the following packages in the next few
 days unless someone is willing to step up as maintainer.  All of these
 packages have been orphaned for over 60 days and have never been part
 of a stable release; none of them have any reverse (build-)dependencies.
 
 
 #259581: O: bbconf -- A Blackbox configuration utility
 Reported by: Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 291 days old.

As Maintainer of blackbox and bbkeys, I'm interested to know what is 
going on with this package.

Like I said, I don't want to maintain bbconf, but the blackbox and
bbkeys upstream is alive again, and they incorporated into its
description that bbconf should work with that programs.

So, I recently sent an email to the bbconf upstream to know if they're
going to keep working on it. Therefore, I think that we should wait a
bit to know his answers and then I will reply.
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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-06 Thread Ari Pollak
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 #287985: O: cantus -- Gnome tool to mass-rename/tag mp3 and ogg files
 Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 123 days old.
 obsoleted by cantus3 which is packaged already

From what I can tell, cantus3 doesn't actually provide all of the
functionality originally present in cantus.


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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-06 Thread Igor Stroh
Ari Pollak wrote:
 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 
#287985: O: cantus -- Gnome tool to mass-rename/tag mp3 and ogg files
Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 123 days old.
obsoleted by cantus3 which is packaged already
 
 
From what I can tell, cantus3 doesn't actually provide all of the
 functionality originally present in cantus.

And it won't either -- the upstream is unresponsive and seems to
have no interest neither in incorporating bug fixes nor in adding
features which the package formerly claimed to be offering[0].

I'd suggest to remove cantus3 from the archive if it wouldn't
have so many users (according to popcon.d.o) - there are better
tools for GNOME/GTK2 with same or better functionality[1].

[0]: formerly, 'cos I removed them from the long package description
[1]: e.g. tagtool, easytag, exfalso [from quodlibet] etc.

Cheers,
Igor


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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-04 Thread Nico Golde
Hello François,

* François-Denis Gonthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-04 10:08]:
 On May 3, 2005 09:54 am, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 
  #297426: O: langband -- The langband Common lisp game
  Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days old.
 
  #297427: O: langband-data -- The Langband sound/image/etc files for
  langband engine Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 
  days
  old.
 
 Can a non-DD (like me) take over those packages?

Yes there is no problem with this. But you have to search
for someone who uploads the package for you (sponsor).
For example you can ask for one on
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Regards Nico

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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-04 Thread Franois-Denis Gonthier
On May 4, 2005 04:38 am, Nico Golde wrote:
 Hello François,

 * François-Denis Gonthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-04 10:08]:
  On May 3, 2005 09:54 am, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
   #297426: O: langband -- The langband Common lisp game
   Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days old.
  
   #297427: O: langband-data -- The Langband sound/image/etc files for
   langband engine Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63
   days old.
 
  Can a non-DD (like me) take over those packages?

 Yes there is no problem with this. But you have to search
 for someone who uploads the package for you (sponsor).
 For example you can ask for one on
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Regards Nico

Ow :(

Both are gone of http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage, I guess that 
means I'm too late?

F-D.G.



Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-04 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* François-Denis Gonthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-04 11:05]:
 Both are gone of http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage, I
 guess that means I'm too late?

No, they are listed at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned

rfa_bypackage is for packages which are RFA: Request For Adoption.
The maintainer is looking for someone to take over but they maintain
it in the meantime.

orphaned is for packages which are O: orphaned.  They maintained is no
longer maintaining the package; the QA team is supposed to do low
level maintenance work until it's adopted or removed from the archive.

Read http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp for more information.
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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-04 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 04:29:37PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 * Fran?ois-Denis Gonthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-04 11:05]:
  Both are gone of http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage, I
  guess that means I'm too late?
 
 No, they are listed at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned

Also, the bug in question had package - description,
not package -- description. At least the overview on PTS won't show
the bug then.
 
--Jeroen

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Upcoming removals

2005-05-03 Thread Martin Michlmayr
I intend to ask for removal of the following packages in the next few
days unless someone is willing to step up as maintainer.  All of these
packages have been orphaned for over 60 days and have never been part
of a stable release; none of them have any reverse (build-)dependencies.


#259581: O: bbconf -- A Blackbox configuration utility
Reported by: Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 291 days old.

#263704: O: sced -- A program for creating 3D scenes.
Reported by: Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 271 days old.
ScEd has been unmaintained upstream since June 2000. In the meantime
Blender has become a killer free software app for 3D scene editing and
rendering

#263874: O: simplecdrx -- SimpleCDR-X is a frontend for CD writing and mastering
Reported by: Benoit Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 270 days old.

#279398: O: masqdialer -- daemon for remote control of masqueraded dialup links
Reported by: Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 181 days old.

#279593: O: vcr -- v4l video capture program
Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 180 days old.

#279505: O: linup -- Client for the Uptimes Project
Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 180 days old.

#279816: O: vrel -- Virtual Reality Engine Language parser
Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 179 days old.

#282426: O: ic35link -- Synchronization tools for the Siemens IC35 PDA
Reported by: Erich Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 162 days old.

#287985: O: cantus -- Gnome tool to mass-rename/tag mp3 and ogg files
Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 123 days old.
obsoleted by cantus3 which is packaged already

#288007: O: strategoxt -- Language transformation tools for programmers
Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 122 days old.

#288334: O: imagefs -- Creates a virtual FAT12 file system in a single file.
Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 120 days old.

#288209: O: audio-cd -- Library to handle CDDB and low-level cd io calls
Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 120 days old.

#289027: O: middleman -- web content caching and filtering proxy server
Reported by: Cedric Delfosse [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 116 days old.
no longer maintained upstream

#289430: O: libcgi-validate-perl -- Advanced CGI form parser and type validation
Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 114 days old.

#292754: O: libcpanplus-perl -- Download and install perl modules from CPAN - 
in a modern way
Reported by: Marc Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 93 days old.
wacky packaging and out of date with upstream

#297429: O: lw-per-installer -- Installer for Lispworks ANSI Common Lisp 
System, Personal Edition
Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days old.

#297432: O: lw-pro-installer-43 -- Installer for Xanalys Lispworks Common Lisp 
System, version 4.3
Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days old.

#297441: O: pdp1-lisp -- Early Lisp interpreter for a PDP-1 emulator
Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days old.

#297425: O: iozone3 -- Filesystem and Disk Benchmarking Tool
Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days old.

#297443: O: python-aima -- Python code for the an Artificial Intelligence book
Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days old.

#297426: O: langband -- The langband Common lisp game
Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days old.

#297427: O: langband-data -- The Langband sound/image/etc files for langband 
engine
Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days old.

#298151: O: gtk-engines-mac2 -- Mac2 theme for GTK+
Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 59 days old.

#298386: O: libmp3hip -- A Python interface to the libmp3hip library
Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 57 days old.

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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-03 Thread Franois-Denis Gonthier
On May 3, 2005 09:54 am, Martin Michlmayr wrote:

 #297426: O: langband -- The langband Common lisp game
 Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days old.

 #297427: O: langband-data -- The Langband sound/image/etc files for
 langband engine Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days
 old.

Can a non-DD (like me) take over those packages?


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Re: Upcoming removals

2005-05-03 Thread Adam M.
François-Denis Gonthier wrote:

On May 3, 2005 09:54 am, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
  

#297426: O: langband -- The langband Common lisp game
Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days old.

#297427: O: langband-data -- The Langband sound/image/etc files for
langband engine Reported by: Kevin M. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 63 days
old.



Can a non-DD (like me) take over those packages?
  


Yes. You just need a sponsor to upload.

- Adam



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