Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Dmitry Yu Okunev
On 01/16/2015 08:36 AM, Riley Baird wrote: On 16/01/15 12:40, Paul Wise wrote: ITP submitters aren't necessarily subscribed to debian-devel, please CC the submitter and their bug. Sorry, will do. I just hit the Reply List button in Thunderbird without checking the addresses. I made the

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 07:32:41AM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: (Also, in any case, don't you think that this game is going a little too far? It's fine to be opposed to systemd, but don't do to Lennart Well, do you see a difference to the original game with Bill Gates? Stephan -- |

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 16/01/15 08:15 AM, Stephan Seitz wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 07:32:41AM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: (Also, in any case, don't you think that this game is going a little too far? It's fine to be opposed to systemd, but don't do to Lennart Well, do you see a difference to the original game

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Dmitry Yu Okunev
Hello. Is it really necessary to discuss this on debian-devel@? IMHO, it's local issue, yet… And also please sorry for my English skills. On 01/16/2015 03:48 PM, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 16/01/15 08:15 AM, Stephan Seitz wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 07:32:41AM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: (Also,

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Dmitry Yu Okunev, le Fri 16 Jan 2015 16:48:09 +0300, a écrit : I'd also object on the technical grounds that we already have xbill and the changes in xlennart don't truly justify a fork. This could be easily solved by merging xbill with xlennart to xperson with collection of this people

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Dmitry Yu Okunev
Hello. On 01/16/2015 05:46 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Dmitry Yu Okunev, le Fri 16 Jan 2015 16:48:09 +0300, a écrit : I'd also object on the technical grounds that we already have xbill and the changes in xlennart don't truly justify a fork. This could be easily solved by merging xbill with

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
Dmitry, On 16/01/15 09:48 AM, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote: Is it really necessary to discuss this on debian-devel@? IMHO, it's local issue, yet… And also please sorry for my English skills. It's an ITP, so it goes to debian-devel by default to discuss amongst ourselves whether a package is suitable

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Markus Koschany
Hi, On 16.01.2015 14:48, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote: Hello. Is it really necessary to discuss this on debian-devel@? IMHO, it's local issue, yet… And also please sorry for my English skills. You are welcome to discuss this game on our dedicated Debian Games mailing list,

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 16/01/15 11:34 AM, Markus Koschany wrote: My personal opinion is that both XBill and xlennart are mildly entertaining and it is rather immature to depict living people as a virus. The message is either silly or offensive. While we're talking about personal opinions, and clarifying for

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Dmitry Yu Okunev
On 01/16/2015 06:34 PM, Markus Koschany wrote: [...] On 16.01.2015 14:48, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote: I'd also object on the technical grounds that we already have xbill and the changes in xlennart don't truly justify a fork. This could be easily solved by merging xbill with xlennart to xperson

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2015-01-16 at 16:48 +0300, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote: Hello. Is it really necessary to discuss this on debian-devel@? IMHO, it's local issue, yet… And also please sorry for my English skills. On 01/16/2015 03:48 PM, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 16/01/15 08:15 AM, Stephan Seitz wrote:

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Axel Wagner
Hi, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: Practically, it's more important to maintain good relations with Lennart Poettering than with Bill Gates. fwiw I don't think Lennart Poettering personally would care very much. He has a thick skin and has more than once poked fun at people for

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Axel Wagner m...@merovius.de writes: […] I don't think Lennart personally would care, no, but I think *we* should care to paint the Opensource community as better than this. As a member of the said community, I think that, however the presence of either of the packages in

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Riley Baird
While not a full-scale ad-hominem attack, I’d say that the two differences I know of between the vrms operation and the official FSF position amount to a misrepresentation at best. Are we going to drop that package, too? If you apt-cache show vrms, you will see the

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Ivan Shmakov i...@siamics.net writes: While not a full-scale ad-hominem attack, I’d say that the two differences I know of between the vrms operation and the official FSF position amount to a misrepresentation at best. Are we going to drop that package, too? I don't

Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-15 Thread Dmitry Yu Okunev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Yu Okunev dyoku...@ut.mephi.ru * Package name: xlennart Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Gethyn Thomas Quail xylem2...@gmail.com * URL : https://github.com/xaionaro/xlennart * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: C

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-15 Thread Riley Baird
* URL : https://github.com/xaionaro/xlennart The URL should be the main branch of xlennart; that is https://github.com/Xylemon/xlennart if there are other packages providing similar functionality, how does it compare? This's a fork of XBill. Everything the same, just with

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Riley Baird wrote: That sounds like a lot of code duplication. Is it possible to have a common library between XBill and XLennart? ITP submitters aren't necessarily subscribed to debian-devel, please CC the submitter and their bug. -- bye, pabs

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-15 Thread Riley Baird
On 16/01/15 12:40, Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Riley Baird wrote: That sounds like a lot of code duplication. Is it possible to have a common library between XBill and XLennart? ITP submitters aren't necessarily subscribed to debian-devel, please CC the submitter and