Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-08 Thread Vince Mulhollon
] cc: (bcc: Vince Mulhollon/Brookfield/Norlight) 01/06/2001 Fax to: 11:36 PM Subject: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Conrad
shell fscked after upgrade to woody On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:25:54PM -0800, Aaron Lehmann wrote: Debian has always exhibited this behavior for me. There's a simple workaround: don't log in as root. I don't know which is more distasteful: That you have telnet enabled, or that you have enabled

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
Hi Adam, On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:55:32PM -0700, Adam Conrad wrote: Hate to state the obvious, but on a DEFAULT Debian install, if nothing is changed, root's default path with be dictated by /root/.profile ... Maybe the machine behaving fine still has this file, and the other has had it

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:36:09PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: why not? the most you'd have to do is put up a single web page with links to local copies of ssh clients for various platforms...and optionally replace telnetd with a script (or tcp-wrapper's twist capability) which printed a

can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:55:32PM -0700, Adam Conrad wrote: Hate to state the obvious, but on a DEFAULT Debian install, if nothing is changed, root's default path with be dictated by /root/.profile ... Maybe the machine behaving

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:38:10AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: Hi Matt!! I don't report a bug due to misconfiguration. Let's see if what you see applies, though. [ snip rude and silly reply ] [ time passes ] On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: Hi Adam, On

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:14:40AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: I apologize for prolonging this thread - it's quite annoying. However, after reading this enlightened response I wonder if it's possible for a user to close the (silly) bug he or she reported after he or she solves the problem.

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:57:11AM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: Actually under /usr/doc/debian the doc-debian package provides a number of files, including bug-main-mailcontrol.txt. A message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] of this format: close $(bugnumber) thanks will close a bug. Only

Processed: Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: close 81396 Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody Bug closed, send any further explanations to Eray 'exa' Ozkural [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks, Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Darren Benham

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:57:11AM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:14:40AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: I apologize for prolonging this thread - it's quite annoying. However, after reading this enlightened response I wonder if it's possible for a user to close the

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. That's it. Please close the bug. That file has somehow gone and replacing it will solve the problem. And of course moving .bash_profile out of the way. Thanks again. Please don't complain why have you

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread exa
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:23:20AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: Golly, there _was_ a misconfiguration. Now that you've made your disdain for Branden's sharp tongue well known, I hope you plan to apologize to Matt Zimmerman for your rudeness. I'm glad the problem has been resolved. I could

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 09:01:40AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. That's it. Please close the bug. That file has somehow gone and replacing it will solve the problem. And of course moving .bash_profile

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sun 07 Jan 2001, Eray Ozkural wrote: About having telnet enabled: everybody on the campus knows how to use telnet but would be very surprised I didn't let them connect easily from windows clients. For me, using telnet is of course a bit insecure but when I'm not able to use an ssh

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:42:57PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:57:11AM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:14:40AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: I apologize for prolonging this thread - it's quite annoying. However, after reading this

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Samuel Hocevar
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote: Yes, but also anyone, including the submitter, spammers, joe public etc can email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to close a bug as well. The BTS doesn't care. So does this mean the submitter can close their own bug or not? I'm not sure what you mean by

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:09:12PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: So does this mean the submitter can close their own bug or not? I'm not sure what you mean by the BTS doesn't care Anyone can close a bug - the BTS doesn't actually check where the close command comes from. The unenforced

Re: can the bug reporter close a bug? [was:Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody]

2001-01-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:09:12PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: So does this mean the submitter can close their own bug or not? I'm not sure what you mean by the BTS doesn't care Yes, the BTS will allow the submitter to close their own bug that way. So can anyone else. (AFAIK.) Hamish --

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Colin Watson
Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun 07 Jan 2001, Eray Ozkural wrote: About having telnet enabled: everybody on the campus knows how to use telnet but would be very surprised I didn't let them connect easily from windows clients. For me, using telnet is of course a bit insecure but

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sun 07 Jan 2001, Colin Watson wrote: Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Search google for putty, if you need an ssh client for windows. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ (hmm, I appear to have that memorized - I end up grabbing it any time I'm at a public

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-07 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Colin Watson wrote: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ (hmm, I appear to have that memorized - I end up grabbing it any time I'm at a public Windows-based Internet terminal). way cool. a mud addict friend of mine always used putty, now i see why :) you can even do x-win

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Eray 'exa' Ozkural
Package: general Version: N/A; reported 2001-01-06 Severity: important After I upgraded from potato to woody on an i386 machine, I observed a strange sympton I login as root. It doesn't matter where, console, X or from network... When I check the environment, normal user environment is present.

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Eray == Eray 'exa' Ozkural [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eray After I upgraded from potato to woody on Eray an i386 machine, I observed a strange sympton Eray I login as root. It doesn't matter where, console, X or Eray from network... Eray When I check the environment, normal user

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hi Manoj Srivastava wrote: There is not enough information in this report to actually do anything about debugging the problem. You don't even mention what shell you are using as /bin/sh; what you have in /etc/environemnt; what you have in the configuration files for the rot user,

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
This is how it looks like [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet borg Trying 139.179.21.143... Connected to borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr. Escape character is '^]'. Debian GNU/Linux woody borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr login: root Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo $PATH

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Roland Mas
Eray Ozkural (exa) (2001-01-07 00:04:14 +0200) : How should I debug this? One thing I did once was rename /bin/bash as bash-real, and write a #!/bin/bash-real wrapper that logged everything (yeah, I did not know of the set -x trick at that time). It might be dirty, but it might just work.

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 12:04:14AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: This is how it looks like [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet borg Trying 139.179.21.143... Connected to borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr. Escape character is '^]'. Debian GNU/Linux woody borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr login: root Password:

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hi Matt!! I don't report a bug due to misconfiguration. Let's see if what you see applies, though. Matt Zimmerman wrote: First, man su to find out where su(1) is getting its environment from. Searching for 'environment' on that man page, you can find this: The current environment

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 12:04:14AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet borg Trying 139.179.21.143... Connected to borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr. Escape character is '^]'. Debian GNU/Linux woody borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr login: root Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo $PATH

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:38:10AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: Then, read /etc/login.defs. Note the values of the ENV_PATH and ENV_SUPATH options. These are used by login(1) and su(1). Test login(1) and su(1) and make sure they are doing what you expect. If they aren't, find out

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread exa
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:25:54PM -0800, Aaron Lehmann wrote: Debian has always exhibited this behavior for me. There's a simple workaround: don't log in as root. I don't know which is more distasteful: That you have telnet enabled, or that you have enabled remote root logins via telnet.

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
Eray Ozkural wrote: About having telnet enabled: everybody on the campus knows how to use telnet but would be very surprised I didn't let them connect easily from windows clients. For me, using telnet is of course a bit insecure but when I'm not able to use an ssh client... it's easier. Well,

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:38:10AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: We use telnet here because this is a diverse university network; we can't force people to run ssh and any moron could go root on this machine if he really wanted to. why not? the most you'd have to do is put up a single web