On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 03:31:59PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote:
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 04:19:04PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
That said, we provide GNOME Classic in wheezy for good reasons. Some of
Florian’s concerns are clearly among them.
I have tried that and the annoyances with the
hi,
2013/6/6 Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org:
On 06/06/2013 03:15 AM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
It is that hard, to build a dialog and ask for a desktop?
I don't think it would be that hard, though nobody did it. You know that
Debian is driven by volunteers only, right? So if you really want
On Jo, 06 iun 13, 13:58:24, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Feel free to contribute it. I would welcome it. I too, feel like its a
shame that there's no dialog to choose which desktop you want (even if
we have specialized CDs, I prefer the netinst ones, and there, such a
dialog would be a very good
hi,
2013/6/6 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com:
On Jo, 06 iun 13, 13:58:24, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Feel free to contribute it. I would welcome it. I too, feel like its a
shame that there's no dialog to choose which desktop you want (even if
we have specialized CDs, I prefer the netinst
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 04:19:04PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
That said, we provide GNOME Classic in wheezy for good reasons. Some of
Florian’s concerns are clearly among them.
I have tried that and the annoyances with the systray, multihead and
nautilus manages backdrop are the same.
I am
On 06/06/2013 15:31, Florian Lohoff wrote:
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 04:19:04PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
That said, we provide GNOME Classic in wheezy for good reasons. Some of
Florian’s concerns are clearly among them.
I have tried that and the annoyances with the systray, multihead and
2013/6/6 Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de:
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 04:19:04PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
That said, we provide GNOME Classic in wheezy for good reasons. Some of
Florian’s concerns are clearly among them.
I have tried that and the annoyances with the systray, multihead and
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 05:20:21PM +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
But why on earth did very simple thing like multihead management break?
Very simple thing ‽ Clearly, you have no idea.
It was functional and working for me in Squeeze it doesnt now.
Wheezy is supposed to use
On 06/06/2013 02:25 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
the problem - IMHO - is
linux (as the kernel itself and tool-distributions) is getting fat and
kills his own advantages.
Time to try Hurd or kFreeBSD? :)
(note: I'd like to have more time to invest in them myself, and I
perfectly understand that not
On 06/06/2013 03:11 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
You are of course aware of the boot menu: Advanced Options -
Alternative Desktop Environment.
Yes. But it should be in d-i, when you choose to install a desktop. Not
in syslinux, when you are supposed to choose what kind of installer to
start. It's
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 12:10:11PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi Florian,
well, this could be related to Wheezy, or to you, or to the people you've
been
talking with, or something else, or a combination...
I've switched 3 users from Squeeze to Wheezy in the last 2 weeks, and also
On 06/05/2013 02:24 PM, Florian Lohoff wrote:
well, this could be related to Wheezy, or to you, or to the people you've been
talking with, or something else, or a combination...
I've switched 3 users from Squeeze to Wheezy in the last 2 weeks, and also to
Gnome 3 btw, and they all *love* it.
hi
2013/6/5 Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de
For me wheezy is the worst of all Debian release i have been
using since bo.
/signed
Just one example to add to flo's
the upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, was not a clean one.
I've had to install a package (some lib-gd-annoying.deb), that wasn't
On 06/05/2013 02:39 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
2013/6/5 Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de mailto:f...@zz.de
For me wheezy is the worst of all Debian release i have been
using since bo.
/signed
Just one example to add to flo's
Really? I think it's one of the best releases ever. Multi-Arch
hi,
2013/6/5 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de
On 06/05/2013 02:39 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
2013/6/5 Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de mailto:f...@zz.de
For me wheezy is the worst of all Debian release i have been
using since bo.
/signed
Just one example to add
Le mercredi 05 juin 2013 à 15:16 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a
écrit :
For example, Debian kept gdm 2.20 for a very long time to continue
to provide XDMCP support.
No. We kept it because there was no clean upgrade path to version 2.30
(which still supports the XDMCP horror). Almost
On Wed, June 5, 2013 15:34, Bjoern Meier wrote:
the upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, was not a clean one.
I've had to install a package (some lib-gd-annoying.deb), that wasn't
installed before and wasn't able to install because of some unresolved
debs.
Honestly, what do you expect. It's
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Thijs Kinkhorst th...@debian.org wrote:
Of course, you're right. If i had a side-show setting, I've nothing to
say. But I think Apache and PHP should have tested which a widely range
of users.
Debian as a volunteer project relies on input of users to test
hi,
2013/6/5 Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Thijs Kinkhorst th...@debian.org wrote:
Of course, you're right. If i had a side-show setting, I've nothing to
say. But I think Apache and PHP should have tested which a widely range
of users.
Debian as a
On 06/05/2013 03:34 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
So gnome said Debian had to use GNOME3 for default? Interesting.
I don't understand. You can easily set the default xsession through
update-alternatives. We are installing MATE as well and have set
it as the default session. No complaints about the
hi,
2013/6/5 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de:
On 06/05/2013 03:34 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
So gnome said Debian had to use GNOME3 for default? Interesting.
I don't understand. You can easily set the default xsession through
update-alternatives. We are installing MATE
On 06/05/2013 07:24 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
You striped my other comment. What it is now? A decision of upstream or not?
I stripped it, because I wasn't considering it a valid argument. No one
keeps you from setting your default xsession and you actually should do
that when deploying Debian in
hi,
2013/6/5 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de:
On 06/05/2013 07:24 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
You striped my other comment. What it is now? A decision of upstream or
not?
I stripped it, because I wasn't considering it a valid argument. No one
keeps you from setting your
On 06/05/2013 09:15 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
Ah what? You are confusing something, my skill to do something has
nothing to do with that I have to do it.
Well, you said you are deploying Debian in a corporate environment
so I assume you are doing some heavy custom configuration anyways
and thus
Hi,
On 06/05/2013 09:15 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
Gnome3 was controverse discussed in many media, so
Take it or make your move and change it? It is that hard, to build a
dialog and ask for a desktop? You have the choice, but we already made
it for you.
if you think, it is easy, why there is no
On 06/06/2013 03:15 AM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
It is that hard, to build a dialog and ask for a desktop?
I don't think it would be that hard, though nobody did it. You know that
Debian is driven by volunteers only, right? So if you really want
something to happen, the best way is to do it. We are a
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