Josselin Mouette josselin.moue...@ens-lyon.org writes:
Le lundi 02 mai 2011 à 19:31 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
To those users that want newer software my next question would be What
software?. My feeling there is that it is only some software, allways
the same software and used
Hello,
I'm a bit new to Debian but just wanted to add my $0.02 to this discussion,
since it's something that I personally find very interesting.
Firstly, I think the question should be, which users would be targeted by a
rolling release? I don't think there are many people out who have the need
* Cristian Henzel cri...@b3r3.info [2011-05-03 08:12]:
I'm a bit new to Debian but just wanted to add my $0.02 to this discussion,
since it's something that I personally find very interesting.
Firstly, I think the question should be, which users would be targeted by a
rolling release? I don't
Er, no. Those of us using Debian in corporate environments desire high
stability, long-term support and defined, not to short, periods between
releases. The 2 years with the security support for currently about 4
years from the release date on is good if even a bit on the short side.
I was
On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 09:47, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Cristian Henzel cri...@b3r3.info [2011-05-03 08:12]:
I'm a bit new to Debian but just wanted to add my $0.02 to this discussion,
since it's something that I personally find very interesting.
Firstly, I think the question should be, which
Hi Lucas,
I appreciate your effort to try and sum things up. However, I'd like
to raise the point that the discussion was about more than just having a
rolling and user-oriented testing release.
The feedback that started (or at least helped springboard) this massive
thread was that when we're
* Cristian Henzel cri...@b3r3.info [2011-05-03 10:51]:
Er, no. Those of us using Debian in corporate environments desire high
stability, long-term support and defined, not to short, periods between
releases. The 2 years with the security support for currently about 4
years from the
On 03/05/11 at 13:38 +0200, sean finney wrote:
Hi Lucas,
I appreciate your effort to try and sum things up. However, I'd like
to raise the point that the discussion was about more than just having a
rolling and user-oriented testing release.
The feedback that started (or at least helped
Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net writes:
I don't think that the Debian can beat Ubuntu in popularity on
desktop/laptop field (not yet) and IMHO it should not even try that.
IMHO Debian is for the people who understand computers and are willing
to invest some time to learn and user friendly
Le mardi 03 mai 2011 à 10:33 +0200, Milan P. Stanic a écrit :
IMHO Debian is for the people who understand computers and are willing
to invest some time to learn and user friendly distributions are for
other more or less laymen people.
Certainly not. Debian is the universal Operating System,
Hi Lucas,
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 02:59:04PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I think that one of the conclusions of the discussion from the last few
days is that the freeze blockage has very good features that many of
us are not willing to give up, like the ability to focus the DDs on
working on
Samuel Thibault wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum, le Mon 02 May 2011 13:31:31 +0200, a écrit :
How we deal with freezes is the hard point in this discussion. I'm
personnally in favor of the freeze rolling for 3 months, then fork
frozen and unfreeze rolling plan, though it has some problems too
(it is not
Hi,
Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I
decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was
said so far. It might not be complete, it's probably a bit biased, but I
hope that it's still better than nothing. When replying, please try to
focus on
Lucas Nussbaum, le Mon 02 May 2011 13:31:31 +0200, a écrit :
How we deal with freezes is the hard point in this discussion. I'm
personnally in favor of the freeze rolling for 3 months, then fork
frozen and unfreeze rolling plan, though it has some problems too
(it is not clear whether the
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:31:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Hi,
Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I
decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was
said so far. It might not be complete, it's probably a bit biased, but I
hope that
On Monday, May 02, 2011 07:31:31 AM Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
...
How we deal with freezes is the hard point in this discussion. I'm
personnally in favor of the freeze rolling for 3 months, then fork
frozen and unfreeze rolling plan, though it has some problems too
(it is not clear whether the
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 02:42:05PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:31:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Hi,
Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I
decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was
said so far. It
* Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:23]:
Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... doesn't look
having a large user base look somehow appealing to you? I think many DDs
care for such since working on Debian brings more fun if someone's
actually using it.
Why do
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:23]:
Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... doesn't look
having a large user base look somehow appealing to you? I think many DDs
care for such since
* Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:31]:
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:23]:
Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... doesn't look
having a large user base look somehow
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:44:11PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:31]:
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org [2011-05-02 18:23]:
Not that I don't understand your asking for
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:31:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Hi,
Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I
decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was
said so far. It might not be complete,
Le lundi 02 mai 2011 à 19:31 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
To those users that want newer software my next question would be What
software?. My feeling there is that it is only some software, allways
the same software and used for the same use case: KDE / Gnome /
Multimedia stuff for
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