Don't forget that there are a lot of firewalls (ANS Interlock in
particular) out there that require logging in first.  Passive mode won't
work.  That is, you ftp to the firewall, log in, and finally do a 

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That gives you a connection to the remote site which then prompts for
the password.

Yick.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rev. Joseph Carter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 12:52 AM
> To:   debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Subject:      Re: netstd tools in the base system (was Re: What to do
> with  /bin/perl symlink?)
> 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 1998 at 07:00:48PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > What if the person does not want to use dselect?  Many people (not
> me) prefer 
> > > to download packages themselves, and dpkg -i them.  Now that ftp
> is removed, 
> > > they would either have to download netstd using something other
> than linux, or 
> > > use dselect to download netstd.  Given some people's dislike of
> dselect, this 
> > > will be a major complaint.
> > 
> > Some people can't use dselect's ftp method, firewalls and so on.
> 
> Unless the firewall doesn't allow ANY ftp at all, the ftp method
> supports
> passive mode.


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