Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Milan P. Stanic
[ Off-Topic, sorry ] On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:43:51AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: If it's not renamed, we can't legally ship it. What, IYO, should be done to ship the existing program currently known as Firefox? FoxFire or FoxInFire, maybe ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El lunes, 16 de octubre de 2006 a las 00:22:53 +0200, Lech Karol Paw?aszek escribía: The fact that GNU chose the name Iceweasel for their own fork of Firefox is extremely unfortunate :-( Why it is unfortunate? Mozilla Corporation doesn't want (Debian) to use firefox name without the

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is unfortunate because of the user confusion that it will cause. IMO, the firefox package should not be renamed to iceweasel. If it's not renamed, we can't legally ship it. ... we can't ship it as free

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: El lunes, 16 de octubre de 2006 a las 00:22:53 +0200, Lech Karol Paw?aszek escribía: The fact that GNU chose the name Iceweasel for their own fork of Firefox is extremely unfortunate :-( Why it is unfortunate? Mozilla Corporation doesn't

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El lunes, 16 de octubre de 2006 a las 09:27:32 +0200, Jacobo Tarrio escribía: Plus, one could say that as someone in Debian came up with the name, then we have priority over it. Hey, we can register it as a trade mark! Before anyone gets the bright idea of getting all worked up about this

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:27:32AM +0200, Jacobo Tarrio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lunes, 16 de octubre de 2006 a las 00:22:53 +0200, Lech Karol Paw?aszek escribía: The fact that GNU chose the name Iceweasel for their own fork of Firefox is extremely unfortunate :-( Why it is

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Sam Morris
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:43:51 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is unfortunate because of the user confusion that it will cause. IMO, the firefox package should not be renamed to iceweasel. If it's not renamed, we can't legally ship it. What, IYO, should be

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Ottavio Caruso
Lech Karol Paw³aszek wrote: On Monday 16 October 2006 00:07, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: [cut] The fact that GNU chose the name Iceweasel for their own fork of Firefox is extremely unfortunate :-( Why it is unfortunate? Because they'll want Debian to call it 'Gnu-Iceweasel' and they'll

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Joey Hess
Ottavio Caruso wrote: PS: Can't we just rename it '93r8d9yad4l260ud.lite'? It's easier to remember! I prefer d6a5c9544eca9b5ce2266d1c34a93222, or possibly acb943ac7d07d80a71fa271962df81e944bae3b7. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Jérôme Marant
Le lundi 16 octobre 2006 15:26, Joey Hess a écrit : Ottavio Caruso wrote: PS: Can't we just rename it '93r8d9yad4l260ud.lite'? It's easier to remember! I prefer d6a5c9544eca9b5ce2266d1c34a93222, or possibly acb943ac7d07d80a71fa271962df81e944bae3b7. Git hater ? :-) -- Jérôme Marant

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Matthias Julius
Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:43:51 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: I think there will be a serious attempt at collaborating with the Gnuzilla folks to try to resolve this confusion. Meanwhile, we're trying to get the existing Firefox into Debian as free software.

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-16 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Ottavio Caruso wrote: Lech Karol Paw³aszek wrote: On Monday 16 October 2006 00:07, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: [cut] The fact that GNU chose the name Iceweasel for their own fork of Firefox is extremely unfortunate :-( Why it is unfortunate? Because they'll want Debian to call it

Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-15 Thread Bastian Venthur
Hi, I've read on several blogs that IceWeasel will be based on a fork of FireFox and not just on vanilla FireFox. Is this true and if yes, why? I hope this will not result in a flamewar, I'm just interested in the reasons if an why we prefer the fork over the original source as base for our

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 10:06:21PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: Hi, I've read on several blogs that IceWeasel will be based on a fork of FireFox and not just on vanilla FireFox. Is this true and if yes, why? I hope this will not result in a flamewar, I'm just interested in the reasons if

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-15 Thread Bastian Venthur
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 10:06:21PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: Hi, I've read on several blogs that IceWeasel will be based on a fork of FireFox and not just on vanilla FireFox. Is this true and if yes, why? I hope this will not result in a flamewar, I'm just

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-15 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El domingo, 15 de octubre de 2006 a las 22:06:21 +0200, Bastian Venthur escribía: I've read on several blogs that IceWeasel will be based on a fork of FireFox and not just on vanilla FireFox. Is this true and if yes, why? AIUI, it will be vanilla Firefox minus logo, minus Firefox name, plus

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-15 Thread Lech Karol Pawłaszek
On Monday 16 October 2006 00:07, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: El domingo, 15 de octubre de 2006 a las 22:06:21 +0200, Bastian Venthur escribía: I've read on several blogs that IceWeasel will be based on a fork of FireFox and not just on vanilla FireFox. Is this true and if yes, why? AIUI, it will

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-15 Thread Sam Morris
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:22:53 +0200, Lech Karol Pawłaszek wrote: On Monday 16 October 2006 00:07, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: El domingo, 15 de octubre de 2006 a las 22:06:21 +0200, Bastian Venthur escribía: I've read on several blogs that IceWeasel will be based on a fork of FireFox and not just

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-15 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, It will be a fork in the following senses: * no inclusion of trademarked Mozilla artowrk * backporting of security fixes to declared stable version Wouldn't it be easier to just do the usual .dfsg-dance with the original upstream tarball? I still fail to see why we need a fork

Re: Will IceWeasel be based on a fork or on vanilla FireFox?

2006-10-15 Thread Ben Finney
Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is unfortunate because of the user confusion that it will cause. IMO, the firefox package should not be renamed to iceweasel. If it's not renamed, we can't legally ship it. What, IYO, should be done to ship the existing program currently known as