On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 03:36:14PM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
Why should Debian developers spend the time setting up infrastructure
for lists or IRC channels that, by definition even, have nothing to do
with the Debian project? If the people who enjoy holding these
Compared to the
Some fun suggestions
1 UK Style: Political correctness script that creates a virtual witch
hunt every time someone mentions anything off topic.
2 Fun Style: Debain developer membership requires a fee. The fee is a
tax to pay for rental of a meeting place. The meeting place is used to
settle
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 16:41 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal,
I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become
nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read
our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness of
Greg == Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg A scrupulous writer, in every sentence that he writes, will ask
Greg himself at least four questions, thus:
Sample answers:
Greg 1. What am I trying to say?
I am stupid.
Greg 2. What words will express it?
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:57:42AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
Joey is, I believe, referring to a healthy level of off-topic
discussions on *any* list, not to creating a specific area for
off-topic messages. For the messages to be social lubricant, they
need to be *interspersed* with the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei Popescu) writes:
IMHO forcing people to take off-topic discussions out of the forum
(read Debian community) is not good. Debian is based on volunteers
and for some contributors (yes, answering questions is also a way of
contributing, so you - the DDs - don't have to
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 11:51:17PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei Popescu) writes:
IMHO forcing people to take off-topic discussions out of the forum
(read Debian community) is not good. Debian is based on volunteers
and for some contributors (yes, answering questions
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 11:02:21AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:57:42AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
Joey is, I believe, referring to a healthy level of off-topic
discussions on *any* list, not to creating a specific area for
off-topic messages. For the messages to
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 06:26:31PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
They don't have to take it away from the Debian lists... They can always
discuss on debian-curiosa if they so desire. Just don't let the
off-topic discussions pollute the other lists.
The description for -curiosa does not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei Popescu) writes:
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:57:42AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
Joey is, I believe, referring to a healthy level of off-topic
discussions on *any* list, not to creating a specific area for
off-topic messages. For the messages to be social lubricant,
On ma, 2007-05-21 at 20:08 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
The description for -curiosa does not suggest it to be appropiate for
the kind of off-topic discussions going on on -user.
Your conclusion is correct, and I'd like to suggest a corollary: there's
no Debian mailing list where advocating
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 05:44:18PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
On ma, 2007-05-21 at 20:08 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
The description for -curiosa does not suggest it to be appropiate for
the kind of off-topic discussions going on on -user.
Your conclusion is correct, and I'd like to
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 07:03:44PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei Popescu) writes:
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:57:42AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
Joey is, I believe, referring to a healthy level of off-topic
discussions on *any* list, not to creating a specific area
On Mon, 21 May 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote:
The same concerns were levelled at the #debian IRC channel a while
back, and there are certain parallels. I don't monitor that either,
for much the same reasons (though it may have improved since it moved
From FreeNode).
Lengthy off topic
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:05:58PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 07:03:44PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
The same concerns were levelled at the #debian IRC channel a while
back, and there are certain parallels. I don't monitor that either,
for much the same reasons
Andrei Popescu wrote:
So you agree to a separate -offtopic list?
[and]
Maybe a #debian-offtopic would help there too.
Why should Debian developers spend the time setting up infrastructure
for lists or IRC channels that, by definition even, have nothing to do
with the Debian project? If the
On 18-May-07, 15:41 (CDT), Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal,
I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become
nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read
our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:41:49PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
[4] FWIW, forums.debian.net has an offtopic section that actually
seems to be used appropriately, without bothering the technical
discissions in other sections.
Debian seems to have a policy of not hosting -offtopic lists[1]. Can
On Sat, 19 May 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:41:49PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
[4] FWIW, forums.debian.net has an offtopic section that actually
seems to be used appropriately, without bothering the technical
discissions in other sections.
Debian seems to have
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:26:59AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
If you want to be off topic yet marginally related to Debian, use
-curiosa. If it has nothing to do with Debian at all, pick from the
multitude of fora where it would be on topic.
[qoute Joey Hess]
To be clear, I am not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei Popescu) writes:
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:26:59AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
If you want to be off topic yet marginally related to Debian, use
-curiosa. If it has nothing to do with Debian at all, pick from
the multitude of fora where it would be on topic.
Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal,
I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become
nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read
our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness of
offtopic posts there. I've in the past threatened to leave -user
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:41:49PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
- There is no *scripture* that can be used in support of preventing
interracial marriage. The words of the judge that you quoted are
certainly *not* the words of God.
- There *is* scripture that
Joey Hess wrote:
Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal,
I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become
nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read
our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness of
offtopic posts there.
I would like to
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 18:08 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
Joey Hess wrote:
Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal,
I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become
nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read
our user lists) due to volume and
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 06:42:48PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
I guess you'd rather see the OT posters go away. There are about 30 of
us. Though, I got the hint with Neil Sumner reporting me to the DPL,
after I told him to STFU, in worse words than that.
Though he had been including me in
Scribit Greg Folkert dies 18/05/2007 hora 18:42:
It's so sad that these OT posters are driving away people like you.
[...]
I guess you'd rather see the OT posters go away.
I guess not. It was explicitly acknowledged that killfiling OT posters
would prevent reading their useful posts, so the
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 16:27 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 06:42:48PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
I guess you'd rather see the OT posters go away. There are about 30 of
us. Though, I got the hint with Neil Sumner reporting me to the DPL,
after I told him to STFU, in
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 01:39:27AM +0200, Pierre THIERRY wrote:
Scribit Greg Folkert dies 18/05/2007 hora 18:42:
It's so sad that these OT posters are driving away people like you.
[...]
I guess you'd rather see the OT posters go away.
I guess not. It was explicitly acknowledged that
Gnu_Raiz wrote:
Let me get this straight developers are complaining about OT topics, how
it takes up their developer time. But they manage to compile a list of
offenses made by people who read the list? Then they threaten to leave
due to issues of people not being on topic?
Naa! He is
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