On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 08:23 +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:
Icedove 10.0.10 (Wheezy, no custom configuration on that front) here.
Thunderbird is prone to the issue... and there are only few cases where
it doesn't occur...
Have a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=808450
especially my
On 2012-11-29 01:50:55 +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
It's like a serious flaw would have been found in gzip and people would
say... oh don't complain... there's already the much better/newer bzip2
or xz.
There's a major difference. mbox is buggy by design. Even though
mboxrd attempts
On 2012-11-29 01:39:57 +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:01 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Even users of mboxo shouldn't even have a problem because in your
message the F of the From line is encoded in quoted-printable:
| =46rom blahhityblah Fri Jul 8
On 2012-11-29 06:43:06 +, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:06 -0500, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
Darren Salt lists...@moreofthesa.me.uk writes:
(Oops. Failed first time.)
Having just viewed the raw text of my message (as sent), there's one other
little wrinkle which I
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 07:52:16AM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
* Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl [121127 16:32]:
So, what's the reason mbox is still the default in Debian?
Because it works and causes the smallest amount of problems
given all the other changes.
Like, locking issues,
On 2012-11-28 11:47:38 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
Let's give it a test, this mail should be signed:
From blahhityblah Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
From foobarbaz Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
From quux Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
If the signature is invalid, your setup is broken.
Even users of
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
I demand that Vincent Lefevre may or may not have written...
On 2012-11-28 11:47:38 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
Let's give it a test, this mail should be signed:
From blahhityblah Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
From foobarbaz Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
Having just viewed the raw text of my message (as sent), there's one other
little wrinkle which I already knew but had failed to consider and which
makes testing of this useless â gpg handles any âÿóÿýFrom â lines itself
in a
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(Oops. Failed first time.)
Having just viewed the raw text of my message (as sent), there's one other
little wrinkle which I already knew but had failed to consider and which
makes testing of this useless: gpg handles any 'From ' lines itself in a
reversible manner, using '- ' as the prefix.
The
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:34:32PM +, Darren Salt wrote:
Having just viewed the raw text of my message (as sent), there's one other
little wrinkle which I already knew but had failed to consider and which
makes testing of this useless: gpg handles any 'From ' lines itself in a
reversible
* Jon Dowland j...@debian.org, 2012-11-28, 17:29:
Having just viewed the raw text of my message (as sent), there's one
other little wrinkle which I already knew but had failed to consider
and which makes testing of this useless: gpg handles any 'From ' lines
itself in a reversible manner,
The following SHOULD be 0, 1, and 2 levels of quoting, first to last.
From blahhityblah Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
From foobarbaz Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
From quux Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
So if I understand correctly, I now identified my e-mail provider as
using mboxo? I indeed got 1, 1 and 2
Darren Salt lists...@moreofthesa.me.uk writes:
(Oops. Failed first time.)
Having just viewed the raw text of my message (as sent), there's one other
little wrinkle which I already knew but had failed to consider and which
makes testing of this useless: gpg handles any 'From ' lines itself in
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:34:32PM +, Darren Salt wrote:
(Oops. Failed first time.)
Having just viewed the raw text of my message (as sent), there's one other
little wrinkle which I already knew but had failed to consider and which
makes testing of this useless: gpg handles any 'From '
I demand that Nikolaus Rath may or may not have written...
Darren Salt lists...@moreofthesa.me.uk writes:
[snip]
The following SHOULD be 0, 1, and 2 levels of quoting, first to last.
From blahhityblah Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
From foobarbaz Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
From quux Fri Jul 8 12:08:34
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:01 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Even users of mboxo shouldn't even have a problem because in your
message the F of the From line is encoded in quoted-printable:
| =46rom blahhityblah Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
| From foobarbaz Fri Jul 8 12:08:34 2011
| From quux
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:55 +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:
So if I understand correctly, I now identified my e-mail provider as
using mboxo? I indeed got 1, 1 and 2 levels of quoting.
Depends... were you using his webmail? Then probably yes...
But it could have also been your local MUA (when you were
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 16:32 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
So, what's the reason mbox is still the default in Debian?
Among other gains, data loss because of mboxo would be gone.
Just posted some reasons[0] (but as I see now, some of them have already
been named by others...
But in general... I
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:06 -0500, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
Darren Salt lists...@moreofthesa.me.uk writes:
(Oops. Failed first time.)
Having just viewed the raw text of my message (as sent), there's one other
little wrinkle which I already knew but had failed to consider and which
makes
On 29-11-12 01:43, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:55 +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:
So if I understand correctly, I now identified my e-mail provider as
using mboxo? I indeed got 1, 1 and 2 levels of quoting.
Depends... were you using his webmail? Then probably yes...
But
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 05:29:20PM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
The following SHOULD be 0, 1, and 2 levels of quoting, first to last.
It was for me (Maildir)
Just rechecked, I'm wrong - the first line was quoted.
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For anyone else following along at home who is slightly puzzled by all this,
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/mail-mbox-formats.html
explains the different mbox formats, what 'From_' means, etc.
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On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:56:25AM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
For anyone else following along at home who is slightly puzzled by all this,
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/mail-mbox-formats.html
explains the different mbox formats, what 'From_' means, etc.
Quoting from
* Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl [121127 16:32]:
So, what's the reason mbox is still the default in Debian?
Because it works and causes the smallest amount of problems
given all the other changes.
Among other gains, data loss because of mboxo would be gone.
Continuing to call that data
Hey Henrique.
On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 22:27 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
...
??
At least for postfix, I'd expect them to accept a patch for local(8) to
not quote From lines as a config option,
First, I've never asked not to quote From_ lines at all, cause this
would really lead to
Hi.
I've recently reported several bugs against MUAs and mail tools, that
employ the mboxo (note the trailing o) format to either store or
import mails.
This however leads to irrecoverable data corruption, as the partial
quoting of so called From_ lines cannot be undone anymore.
An easy solution
* Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net [121124 17:42]:
I've recently reported several bugs against MUAs and mail tools, that
employ the mboxo (note the trailing o) format to either store or
import mails.
So,... bringing this up here at d-d, as I think it would be good for
Debian to
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
This however leads to irrecoverable data corruption, as the partial
quoting of so called From_ lines cannot be undone anymore.
An easy solution for that dilemma is known for years, namely the other
mbox formats (either mboxrd, mboxcl or
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