Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-15 Thread Måns Rullgård
Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dalibor Topic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I instruct my computer running the Debian OS to load and run eclipse, the code from some JVM package

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-14 Thread Måns Rullgård
and similar words as everybody else's dictionaries use. -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-14 Thread Måns Rullgård
program being interpreted by Kaffe, which is perfectly within the limits set by the GPL. -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-13 Thread Måns Rullgård
. AFAIK, Eclipse uses only the standard Java API as published by Sun, and will run equally well with any implementation of said interface. This whole discussion is something between ridiculous and hilarious, definitely not useful. -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-13 Thread Måns Rullgård
own judgement about whether the GPL means what it is often said to mean, I'll consider it useful. I keep wondering, if the GPL is really supposed to mean all these things which keep being claimed, why didn't the FSF write *that*, instead of something entirely different? -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-13 Thread Måns Rullgård
many times does it have to be stated that *using* an API does not form a derivative work of *any* implementation of the API? Any other interpretation invariably leads to contradictions. -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-13 Thread Måns Rullgård
Grzegorz B. Prokopski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 2005-13-01 at 20:58 +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: Grzegorz B. Prokopski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, in our case, Eclipse is linked agains a libraries that ARE GPLed. No, it is being interpreted by an interpreter that is covered

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-13 Thread Måns Rullgård
Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Eclipse authors do not tell you which JVM to use. But Debian does, when it says: Depends: j2re1.4 | j2re1.3 | java2-runtime So the eclipse-platform distributed by Debian *does* call on a particular

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-13 Thread Måns Rullgård
Grzegorz B. Prokopski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 2005-13-01 at 21:56 +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: Grzegorz B. Prokopski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 2005-13-01 at 20:58 +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: Grzegorz B. Prokopski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, in our case, Eclipse

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-13 Thread Måns Rullgård
just doesn't sound good, does it? It sounds like it would make for a lot of arguing with FSF, nothing else. -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]