Re: Debian package for sun's j2sdk

2004-03-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Juergen Kreileder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 the plan is to put debs for the final 1.4.2 release there.
 Unfortunately getting that version ready for release took longer than
 expected (mostly due to some AMD64 issues), but it's mostly finished
 now and will be available within a week or so.

Will there be a powerpc port?

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Re: Debian package for sun's j2sdk

2004-03-16 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Heretik,

* Heretik wrote:
I've read in the FAQ that a debian installer for sun's jdk1.4 is to be
made so i'd like to help doing it.

# java unfree stuff...
deb http://nosid.de/z42 debian/
deb-src http://nosid.de/z42 debian/
- j2se-package

I really hope that this package gets uploaded to unstable in time for
sarge.. And someon who has write access to the debian java FAQ should
update the entry...

So if i can help doing this, please tell me how i could start.

I think some of the sun derived JDKs (IBM) are still lacking the
backend for j2se-package. If you are intersted in them...

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Re: Debian package for sun's j2sdk

2004-03-16 Thread Pierre Machard
Hi,


On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:57:30PM +0100, Heretik wrote:
 Hi
 
 I've just read the Debian GNU/Linux Java FAQ and i installed sun's j2sdk on my
 debian unstable with a lot of difficulties.
 
 I've read in the FAQ that a debian installer for sun's jdk1.4 is to be made so
 i'd like to help doing it.
 
 As i often install debian on some friend's computers, i need a simple way to
 install a single debian package for full java toolkit.
 
 So if i can help doing this, please tell me how i could start.

Matthias Klose already packaged the jdk1.4 from blackdown:

http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/

http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/j2re1.4_1.4.1.01-1.1_i386.deb
http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/j2sdk1.4_1.4.1.01-1.1_i386.deb

No need to reinvent the wheel.

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Re: Debian package for sun's j2sdk

2004-03-16 Thread Dalibor Topic
Pierre Machard wrote:
Hi,

On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:57:30PM +0100, Heretik wrote:

Hi

I've just read the Debian GNU/Linux Java FAQ and i installed sun's j2sdk on my
debian unstable with a lot of difficulties.
I've read in the FAQ that a debian installer for sun's jdk1.4 is to be made so
i'd like to help doing it.
As i often install debian on some friend's computers, i need a simple way to
install a single debian package for full java toolkit.
So if i can help doing this, please tell me how i could start.


Matthias Klose already packaged the jdk1.4 from blackdown:

http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/

http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/j2re1.4_1.4.1.01-1.1_i386.deb
http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/j2sdk1.4_1.4.1.01-1.1_i386.deb
No need to reinvent the wheel.
If that's the original JDK he *may* be violating the license, since it 
only allows distribution under specific conditions and *unmodified*. 
Splitting the original download into a few debian packages can be seen 
as creating a derived work, i.e. modification of the original work.

In that case, downloading it from him *may* give you no license to use 
it, since Sun's license is non-transferable. [1]

IANAL, and all that.

cheers,
dalibor topic
[1] http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/j2sdk-1_4_2_04-license.txt

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Re: Debian package for sun's j2sdk

2004-03-16 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Dalibor Topic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Pierre Machard wrote:
 Hi,
 On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:57:30PM +0100, Heretik wrote:

 I've just read the Debian GNU/Linux Java FAQ and i installed sun's
 j2sdk on my debian unstable with a lot of difficulties.

 I've read in the FAQ that a debian installer for sun's jdk1.4 is
 to be made so i'd like to help doing it.

 As i often install debian on some friend's computers, i need a
 simple way to install a single debian package for full java
 toolkit.

 So if i can help doing this, please tell me how i could start.
 Matthias Klose already packaged the jdk1.4 from blackdown:
 http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/
 http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/j2re1.4_1.4.1.01-1.1_i386.deb
 http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/j2sdk1.4_1.4.1.01-1.1_i386.deb
 No need to reinvent the wheel.

 If that's the original JDK

No, it's the Blackdown J2SE

 he *may* be violating the license, since it only allows distribution
 under specific conditions and *unmodified*. Splitting the original
 download into a few debian packages can be seen as creating a
 derived work, i.e. modification of the original work.

and *these* debs are OK.



Juergen

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Re: Debian package for sun's j2sdk

2004-03-16 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hallo Juergen,

Juergen Kreileder wrote:
Dalibor Topic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Pierre Machard wrote:

Hi,
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:57:30PM +0100, Heretik wrote:

I've just read the Debian GNU/Linux Java FAQ and i installed sun's
j2sdk on my debian unstable with a lot of difficulties.
I've read in the FAQ that a debian installer for sun's jdk1.4 is
to be made so i'd like to help doing it.
As i often install debian on some friend's computers, i need a
simple way to install a single debian package for full java
toolkit.
So if i can help doing this, please tell me how i could start.
Matthias Klose already packaged the jdk1.4 from blackdown:
http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/
http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/j2re1.4_1.4.1.01-1.1_i386.deb
http://swt.cs.tu-berlin.de/~doko/tmp/j2sdk1.4_1.4.1.01-1.1_i386.deb
No need to reinvent the wheel.
If that's the original JDK


No, it's the Blackdown J2SE


he *may* be violating the license, since it only allows distribution
under specific conditions and *unmodified*. Splitting the original
download into a few debian packages can be seen as creating a
derived work, i.e. modification of the original work.


and *these* debs are OK.
Thanks for setting that straight.

Would it be possible to host them on blackdown mirrors as well? All 
that's available on 
ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian/pool/non-free/j/j2se1.4-i386/ for 
example, are a few betas, but no final release.

That would also remove any kind of licensing confusion.

cheers,
dalibor topic
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Re: Debian package for sun's j2sdk

2004-03-16 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Hi Dalibor,

Dalibor Topic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Would it be possible to host them on blackdown mirrors as well? All
 that's available on
 ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian/pool/non-free/j/j2se1.4-i386/ for
 example, are a few betas, but no final release.

the plan is to put debs for the final 1.4.2 release there.
Unfortunately getting that version ready for release took longer than
expected (mostly due to some AMD64 issues), but it's mostly finished
now and will be available within a week or so.


Juergen

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