Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-11-03 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 02:34:03AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: The QPL does not require patches. It prefers them, but doesn't require them. You could just as easily provide the original for reference and let someone else diff it (which is at least a major improvement over requiring that only

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-11-03 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Raul Miller wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 10:15:29AM -0500, Jeff Teunissen wrote: I haven't seen RMS claim that Emacs, using gcc as a backend to compile code, is a derivative work of gcc. Nor has he taken issue with NeXT Project Builder calling gcc to compile code, or any of the other

Re: ITP: pine (?)

1999-11-03 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: Could anybody explain pine licence? What exactly do you want to see explained? Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual agreement: [...] I understand this in the sense that this release is the (unmodified) version by

Re: ITP: pine (?)

1999-11-03 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 12:30:39PM +0100, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: This licence doesn't forbid to redistribute modified binaries. This is irrelevant. The important thing is that it does not explicitly allow redistribution of modified binaries. This release could be modified release, IMHO. If

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-11-03 Thread Henning Makholm
Jeff Teunissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, my examples seem to be precisely what you are talking about. Corel's tool, using libapt, is using dpkg's command-line interface, in the same way an IDE calls a C compiler's command-line interface. The only real difference is in the results; gcc

Re: ITP: pine (?)

1999-11-03 Thread Henning Makholm
Piotr Roszatycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The license doesn't tell about modified binaries, And therefore they are not allowed. An author has exclusive rights to do just about everything with his work unless he *explicitly* allows others to do it. -- Henning Makholm

Re: SNNS: does it really belong into non-free?

1999-11-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Siggy Brentrup wrote: According to Joey the offending section is: 4. If you distribute copies of SNNS you may not charge anything except the cost for the media and a fair estimate of the costs of computer time or network time directly attributable to

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-11-03 Thread Zygo Blaxell
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:51:06 -0700 (PDT), Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] But the GPL is very careful about how it defines program. The GPL does not define program. However, FSF has a guidline for when linking should be considered derivation. That is

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-11-03 Thread Zygo Blaxell
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:19:06 -0800 (PST), Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] That doesn't matter. Static linking copies. Dynamic linking copies at run time, which is a rather shaky argument. Executables that run dynamic libraries are derivative of the

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-11-03 Thread Henning Makholm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zygo Blaxell) writes: Does this mean that as long as a developer writes their own headers, they can link anything they want to against a GPLed .so file without infringing on the GPL? I don't see any way the copyright on .so could affect programs that link against it, if

Re: SNNS: does it really belong into non-free?

1999-11-03 Thread Siggy Brentrup
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Siggy Brentrup wrote: According to Joey the offending section is: 4. If you distribute copies of SNNS you may not charge anything except the cost for the media and a fair estimate of the costs of

Re: SNNS: does it really belong into non-free?

1999-11-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith
My wording is taken from the Artistic license. See /usr/share/common-licenses/Artistic The relevants parts are: Package refers to the collection of files distributed by the Copyright Holder, and derivatives of that collection of files created through textual

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-11-03 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zygo Blaxell) Does this mean that as long as a developer writes their own headers, they can link anything they want to against a GPLed .so file without infringing on the GPL? The creation of non-GPL headers for the purpose of linking in a GPL library is a device

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-11-03 Thread Gavriel State
Zygo Blaxell wrote: Hmmm...consider the Wine project: a re-implementation of Microsoft DLL's (among other things) using no Microsoft code. No code means no headers as well--anything less would be copyright infringement. Does this mean that as long as a developer writes their own headers,