On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 02:00:25PM +0200, Tommi Virtanen wrote:
Please have a look at http://www.vmware.com/ and help me
decide if we can distribute VMware in non-free, or only as an
installer package. I currently think we can only do an
installer..
I can't find on the
Caspian wrote:
So let's see what happens if we create a Corel Linux workalike by:
A: Downloading Corel Linux
B: Ripping out all the non-free software parts and
C: Replacing them.
then...
D: Publicizing this heavily.
This would be fun. And it would be a free easy Redistribution of
On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 01:57:24AM -0500, Lynn Winebarger wrote:
I'm including the full text below. What I find particularly odious is
not the exclusion of minors (though it is odious), but the contention (as
usual in purported EULAs) that Corel still retains title to the copy of
the
On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 02:36:29AM -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote:
This is a test. Some day there will be even bigger companies with even
more investment in free software (no offense intended, Corel). Some of
those companies will have multi-million-dollar law firms (or bigger) with
lots of
On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 12:08:00AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
What bothers me with Corel is not them using Debian, but rather they fact that
they gave nothing back to us or the community. Not code, time, or money.
But they did.
--
Raul
I'm including the full text below. What I find particularly odious is
not the exclusion of minors (though it is odious), but the contention (as
usual in purported EULAs) that Corel still retains title to the copy of
the software downloaded, whether it's under GPL or not.
If you're
Then let's try an experiment-- let's make a nice Corel Linux mirror site,
and publicize it well (read: on Slashdot), and see if they object. Anyone
with me?
As long as you respect all included licenses, and don't attempt to use our
trademarks, there's no reason for Corel to object.
Erm, it seems to me that at least the 2nd instance, went rather well - why
are you frustrated?
Jason
Yes, Bruce pointed out the issue. I contacted Jason immediately, and we worked
toward a mutually agreeable solution. The process took a few weeks but I also
thought it went rather smoothly.
What bothers me with Corel is not them using Debian, but rather they fact that
they gave nothing back to us or the community. Not code, time, or money.
This isn't exactly true. When Corel Linux was released, so was all of the new
and
modified code including a new install program and package
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Erich Forler wrote:
If you're referring to the following section,
All right, title and interest in the Software Programs, including source
code, documentation, appearance, structure and organization, are held by
Corel Corporation, Corel Corporation Limited, and others
Debian has remained (relatively) pure, but no one outside of
the hardcore Linux community has heard of Debian!
This is where the association with Corel is very useful to Debian. In our press
releases, media interviews, every product demo at tradeshows and in every
discussion
with our corporate
You know, the typical EULA claptrap that attempts to circumvent the
first sale doctrine and subsequent fair use. There's no reason to make
this pretense with the free software portion of the distribution.
I'm not a lawyer either and generally I don't like to wade into the specifics
of
I looked at the web page you sent me. It does not seem to violate
the GPL as regards the GPL-covered programs included in it,
although there are some subtle issues I haven't yet figured out.
It does say that some non-free programs are included in the system.
The tendency (which did not start
What bothers me with Corel is not them using Debian, but rather they fact
that
they gave nothing back to us or the community. Not code, time, or money.
What Corel-written programs are in the distribution, and what are
their licenses? Are any of them free software?
What the world needs now is a slick, idiot-friendly Linux distribution
If you could please call it a GNU/Linux distribution, that would
help us call the users' attention to the issues that are at stake.
Lynn Winebarger writes:
You'll note I said title to the copy, not title to the copyright.
Interesting point.
I am referring to:
ATTENTION:THIS IS A LICENSE, NOT A SALE. THIS PRODUCT IS PROVIDED UNDER
THE FOLLOWING AGREEMENT WHICH DEFINES WHAT YOU (HEREAFTER REFERRED
TO AS YOU OR
Erich Forler writes:
As a guess, perhaps the distinction is raised to differentiate between the
Product - Corel Linux and the programs included on the disc. In some
circumstances, there is a differentiation.
This is a distinction which some people have seemed unwilling to acknowledge,
but it
Lynn Winebarger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The way I see it (and IANAL), the GPL (and other free software
licenses) are copyright licenses that accompany copies of software. If I
never receive actual ownership of the copy, it's not clear that I would
receive the accompanying license,
It does say that some non-free programs are included in the system.
If my memory serves me correctly, this is because Netscape Navigator is included
in the downloadable version of the distribution. Since Navigator isn't Free
software the EULA has to allow for such software.
It's a much ignored
What Corel-written programs are in the distribution, and what are
their licenses? Are any of them free software?
There are several Corel apps included. They are either GPL, LGPL or CPL (Corel
public
license which is in all matters of substance the same as the Mozilla license).
Erich Forler
Erich Forler writes:
What Corel-written programs are in the distribution, and what are
their licenses? Are any of them free software?
There are several Corel apps included. They are either GPL, LGPL or CPL
(Corel public
license which is in all matters of substance the same as the
I guess you don't include Corel WordPerfect in the downloadable version of
the CD image, but that's a non-free program from Corel which is mentioned in
the Corel EULA:
In the final version of the product, WP was taken out since it's still
available as a
separate download.
Is there anything
Pablo De Napoli writes:
Hello!
I'm a debian user from Argentina.
I want to ask you a question. Is it legal to use secure cryptography here
in Argentina ? (for example PGP international version or ssh)
I'm asking you this because I've heard that in certain countries it is
forbiden.
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