Re: freedomization task list [was: Re: Dangerous precedent being

1999-12-14 Thread Julian Stoev
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 07:35:03PM +0100, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote: |On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 09:27:05AM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote: | Tomasz Wegrzanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | What kind of free licence make such situations possible ??? | (for me it is not free even a little bit if

Re: webmin license

1999-12-14 Thread Henning Makholm
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 07:12:27PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: For comparison, the Finnish law says, unofficially translated by me as: [snip something which could equally well be a direct translation of the Danish law] (Apparently this

Re: webmin license

1999-12-14 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 12:26:11PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: [snip something which could equally well be a direct translation of the Danish law] Not according to your previous message: you said there that the Danish law required one to have the right to run the program, but the Finnish one

Re: webmin license

1999-12-14 Thread Henning Makholm
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 12:26:11PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: [snip something which could equally well be a direct translation of the Danish law] Not according to your previous message: you said there that the Danish law required one

Re: webmin license

1999-12-14 Thread Henning Makholm
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you said there that the Danish law required one to have the right to run the program, but the Finnish one requires you to be in possession of a legal copy. This is getting interesting. When the clause was first added to Danish law in 1992 it

Re: freedomization task list [was: Re: Dangerous precedent being

1999-12-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm told that under American law, a promise that is made without getting something tangible (a consideration) in return cannot be legally binding. That would seem to allow any free software license to be revoked as soon as the author wants to.

Re: freedomization task list [was: Re: Dangerous precedent being

1999-12-14 Thread Henning Makholm
On 14 Dec 1999, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Contracts require consideration to be taken as valid contracts. Mere promises are not legally enforceable. However, the right to copy the software is most certainly consideration. Yes, but I was thinking the other way around: the author of the

Re: freedomization task list [was: Re: Dangerous precedent being

1999-12-14 Thread William T Wilson
On 14 Dec 1999, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Contracts require consideration to be taken as valid contracts. Mere promises are not legally enforceable. However, the right to copy the software is most certainly consideration. There is no requirement that the consideration be tangible;

Re: freedomization task list [was: Re: Dangerous precedent being

1999-12-14 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 03:00:12PM -0500, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: The GPL is also not a contract, it's a public license. It's a license which offers contractual terms for those who wish to redistribute the software. In exchange for restricting yourself to the conditions of the license you

Re: freedomization task list [was: Re: Dangerous precedent being

1999-12-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
William T Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a very interesting thought. What if you reverse it? The *author* of the software receives no consideration from the person the software is distributed to. I am suddenly very afraid of this. Yes, and that means that the copier cannot sue

Re: freedomization task list [was: Re: Dangerous precedent being

1999-12-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, but I was thinking the other way around: the author of the program does not necessarily get any consideration out of putting his program under the GPL (which ought to count as a promise to enter the described contract with anyone who accepts the