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2002-05-14 Thread Kim chulmin
You're not going to believe what's happening to me now.someone is doing an experiment on me.I mean an experiment on a living creature. it's kind of hard to explain this situation. Base: liquid thing interacting with human body in itself.1. they raise some koreans(about 20) and put liquid

Re: SPAM mails marking bugs as done?

2002-05-14 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 10:45:27PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: The website is hosted by Verio, Inc. in Colorado, USA, and the mail sent through another US ISP: Cox Communications, Inc in California. Is there anything in US Federal or state law that would support a prosecution for interfering

Re: SPAM mails marking bugs as done?

2002-05-14 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 07:06, Joseph Carter wrote: On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 10:45:27PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: The website is hosted by Verio, Inc. in Colorado, USA, and the mail sent through another US ISP: Cox Communications, Inc in California. Is there anything in US Federal or state

New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
CUPS now appears to include the following exception to the GPL. Besides how ambiguous this is, does it discriminate against fields of endeavor, e.g., producing non-Mac software, in violation of DFSG 6? If it does, it'd be a really weird case ;-) APPLE OPERATING SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT LICENSE

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Peter Makholm
Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CUPS now appears to include the following exception to the GPL. Besides how ambiguous this is, does it discriminate against fields of endeavor, e.g., producing non-Mac software, in violation of DFSG 6? I think there are consensus for allowing

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Peter Makholm wrote: I think there are consensus for allowing positive discrimination. There is? That would be a mighty slippery slope. Wichert. -- _ /[EMAIL PROTECTED] This space intentionally left

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Previously Peter Makholm wrote: I think there are consensus for allowing positive discrimination. There is? That would be a mighty slippery slope. If the existence of such an exception made software non-free, then DFSG-free software could be made

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Previously Peter Makholm wrote: I think there are consensus for allowing positive discrimination. There is? That would be a mighty slippery slope. If not consensus, then at least there is precedence. As long as the license gives everyone without

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Sam Hartman
Wichert == Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wichert Previously Peter Makholm wrote: I think there are consensus for allowing positive discrimination. Wichert There is? That would be a mighty slippery slope. This has come up several times over the last two years. As

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Previously Peter Makholm wrote: I think there are consensus for allowing positive discrimination. There is? That would be a mighty slippery slope. Wichert. It's been discussed before, but I couldn't point you to a thread. It's okay to license something under the GPL for everybody, and

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Michael Sweet
Jeff Licquia wrote: ... It is weird. I think they would have been better off just dual-licensing with a non-free Mac-specific license; they hold the full copyright, after all. OTOH, I think I know where this is coming from. Apple really seems to like CUPS, and is paying Easy Software Products

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 02:50:25PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Peter Makholm wrote: I think there are consensus for allowing positive discrimination. There is? That would be a mighty slippery slope. We've done it before, with the IBMPL/CPL. I think the discussion happened

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Previously Peter Makholm wrote: I think there are consensus for allowing positive discrimination. There is? That would be a mighty slippery slope. This particular kind of positive discrimination is fine--there's nothing we can do to stop it,

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Mark Rafn
Previously Peter Makholm wrote: I think there are consensus for allowing positive discrimination. On 14 May 2002, Henning Makholm wrote: The reasoning is that it would be absurd to call license A free and license B non-free if every recipient has at least as much freedom with license B

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 09:37, Henning Makholm wrote: In this particular case it doesn't look like the extended rights are viral in this setting, so there ought to be no problem here. (But I haven't looked up the context of the language that was quoted some articles ago, so I may be wrong). The

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 12:23:51PM -0400, Michael Sweet wrote: The license exception is there specifically so that MacOS and Darwin developers can link against libcupsimage or derive their own code from various parts of CUPS without worrying about the GPL or licensing CUPS themselves. The

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Santiago Vila
Software that is developed by any person or entity for an Apple Operating System (Apple OS-Developed Software), including but not limited to Apple and third party printer drivers, filters, and backends for an Apple Operating System, that is linked to the CUPS imaging

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Glenn Maynard
Quoting the referenced message, for those who don't have it handy: (RMS) The question is what licenses I could use for modified versions of Vim. Specifically, could I release a modified version of Vim under the GPL? A license is GPL-compatible if it permits that; otherwise, it is not

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Sam Hartman
Glenn == Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Glenn On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 12:23:51PM -0400, Michael Sweet Glenn wrote: The license exception is there specifically so that MacOS and Darwin developers can link against libcupsimage or derive their own code from various

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 07:53, Peter Makholm wrote: That is as long the license doesn't make any non-free restrictions for anyone it is acceptable to give more freedom to some people. Good. Because, as I said, that would of made a very weird case of something being non-DFSG-free. signature.asc

Re: New CUPS license violates DFSG 6?

2002-05-14 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 14-May-2002 Santiago Vila wrote: Software that is developed by any person or entity for an Apple Operating System (Apple OS-Developed Software), including but not limited to Apple and third party printer drivers, filters, and backends for an Apple Operating System, that