Re: The Helixcommunity RPSL is not DFSG-free

2003-02-10 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens
Don Armstrong wrote: As a parting note, it is troubling that they call a license version 1.0, and then have a revision date associated with it. The RPSL should really be refered to as RPSL version 1.0 as of 10/28/2002 or some such. [Or they should incrememnt the version numbers when they

Re: Yet another bunch of licences

2003-02-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Juhapekka Tolvanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Attribution http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/1.0 It is not immediately clear that the license's definition of Derivative Work: | Derivative Work means a work based upon the Work or upon the Work | and other pre-existing works, such as a

Re: The Helixcommunity RPSL is not DFSG-free

2003-02-10 Thread Mark Rafn
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Don Armstrong wrote: This section has the same issues that the APSL has. IE, it fails the two person variant of the desert island test. Why people keep introducing this onerous term into their licenses is beyond me. There are two ways this might be read. must make

Re: The Helixcommunity RPSL is not DFSG-free

2003-02-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Mark Rafn [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two ways this might be read. must make modifications available to the upstream is agreed as a non-starter. must make source available to users in addition to distribution recipients seems a lot more reasonable to me. Actually, the language

Re: [gnu.org #20241] Creative commons licenses

2003-02-10 Thread David Turner
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 08:48, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Juhapekka Tolvanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Attribution http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/1.0 It is not immediately clear that the license's definition of Derivative Work: | Derivative Work means a work based upon the Work or

Re: Yet another bunch of licences

2003-02-10 Thread David Turner
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 17:38, Richard Stallman wrote: These are really important projects that claim to be free in the sense of freedom. But I'd like to know, what Free Software Foundation and readers of debian-legal think about those licences. So, please, evaluate those

revocability of licences

2003-02-10 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
I'm not sure that revocability of free software licences really is a problem. However, if it is, this might help: Free software authors and contributors could sell distribution rights for their work with a contract something like the following. | Contract made between name of free software

Re: Yet another bunch of licences

2003-02-10 Thread Juhapekka Tolvanen
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, +00:38:27 EET (UTC +0200), Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] pressed some keys: These are really important projects that claim to be free in the sense of freedom. But I'd like to know, what Free Software Foundation and readers of debian-legal think about

Re: Yet another bunch of licences

2003-02-10 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens
Richard Stallman wrote: The Creative Commons licenses are not supposed to be used for software. Doesn't the Creative Commons site say so? It ought to. http://creativecommons.org/faq#faq_entry_3321 makes it clear the Creative Commons does not intend to get involved with software licensing.

Re: Yet another bunch of licences

2003-02-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 05:38:26PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: These are really important projects that claim to be free in the sense of freedom. But I'd like to know, what Free Software Foundation and readers of debian-legal think about those licences. So, please, evaluate