Re: GFDL - status?

2003-07-19 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:47:42PM -, MJ Ray wrote: How are you not free to create derivative parts of the documentation section and distribute it under the same terms (ie with invariants in tow)? The invariant sections are not part of the documentation (and they must not be

Re: GFDL - status?

2003-07-19 Thread MJ Ray
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We wouldn't even consider this argument if someone were applying it to a C compiler or OS kernel. Wouldn't we? Could a C compiler could still contain a free software linker and not be wrong to call the linker free software? Just like this, it wouldn't

migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi guys, No, this is not a mail about large-scale bugs I intend to file about packages using the FDL. It's about 'how do I relicense stuff in non-FDL licenses'. In the past few years, I wrote some manpages and one larger document which I all licensed under the FDL. Although I did not read the

Re: GFDL - status?

2003-07-19 Thread Jeremy Hankins
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you (or other list members) think of the pickle-passing clause? If a license had a clause requiring that anyone who received the work (or any derivative work) must also receive a pickle, the work (i.e., the software itself) would be non-free, yes.

Re: migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 06:26:17PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: No, this is not a mail about large-scale bugs I intend to file about packages using the FDL. It's about 'how do I relicense stuff in non-FDL licenses'. In the past few years, I wrote some manpages and one larger document which

Re: migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-19 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] My question is: what's the right way to do this? If all contributors agree, can I just drop the FDL from my 'legalese' paragraphs, replacing it with a reference to the GPL, Yes. or do I have to mention the fact that previous versions were licensed

Re: migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-19 Thread Mathieu Roy
My question is: what's the right way to do this? If all contributors agree, can I just drop the FDL from my 'legalese' paragraphs, replacing it with a reference to the GPL, or do I have to mention the fact that previous versions were licensed under the FDL? Do I have to wait for a new update

Re: GFDL - status?

2003-07-19 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 11:09:13AM -, MJ Ray wrote: We wouldn't even consider this argument if someone were applying it to a C compiler or OS kernel. Wouldn't we? Could a C compiler could still contain a free software linker and not be wrong to call the linker free software? Just

Re: migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-19 Thread Florian Weimer
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, this is not a mail about large-scale bugs I intend to file about packages using the FDL. It's about 'how do I relicense stuff in non-FDL licenses'. The next logical step is 'how do I rename Debian GNU/Linux' to 'Debian Linux', I presume. To my

Re: migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-19 Thread J.D. Hood
--- Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To my knowledge, only a very vocal minority of Debian Developers argues for the removal of documentation licensed under the GFDL (and even their views are far from consistent). No one has surveyed DDs on this question, have they? You guys might be

Re: migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-19 Thread Florian Weimer
Sorry, Wouter, I shouldn't have complained about your approach. Your request for help actually makes sense (it's just an ordinary relicensing question, after all). Fear of having to switch to FreeBSD provokes some rather clueless reactions on my part. I'm sorry.

Re: migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-19 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 10:40:50PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, this is not a mail about large-scale bugs I intend to file about packages using the FDL. It's about 'how do I relicense stuff in non-FDL licenses'. The next logical step is

Re: migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op za 19-07-2003, om 22:40 schreef Florian Weimer: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, this is not a mail about large-scale bugs I intend to file about packages using the FDL. It's about 'how do I relicense stuff in non-FDL licenses'. The next logical step is 'how do I rename

Re: migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-19 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 06:26:17PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: No, this is not a mail about large-scale bugs I intend to file about packages using the FDL. It's about 'how do I relicense stuff in non-FDL licenses'. In the past few years, I wrote some manpages and one larger document which

Re: migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-19 Thread Dylan Thurston
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wouter Verhelst wrote: In fact, I have been considering one point the GNU project has pointed out by creating the FDL: the fact that software on the one hand and 'normal' writings on the other hand are two completely different things. I believe that many Debian

Joint Authors and Nonexclusive Licenses Re: Transfer of copyright on death

2003-07-19 Thread James Miller
## DISCLAIMER. The following is not legal advice, but a general recitation of the law. Seek counsel of an attorney in your jurisdiction for legal advice. --- Kalle Kivimaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] からのメッセー ジ: Andrew Stribblehill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The sole maintainer collaborated with