Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:39:56AM +0100, Daniel Kobras wrote: We're currently trying to sort out the non-free status of scsh within Debian. Most of the issues are unambiguous, however, I'd like to see some more opinions on the following two clauses contained in a couple of source files.

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:55:23AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:39:56AM +0100, Daniel Kobras wrote: We're currently trying to sort out the non-free status of scsh within Debian. Most of the issues are unambiguous, however, I'd like to see some more opinions on

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ;;; 2. Users of this software agree to make their best efforts (a) to return ;;;to the T Project at Yale any improvements or extensions that they make, ;;;so that these may be included in future releases; and (b) to inform ;;;the T Project

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:39:56AM +0100, Daniel Kobras wrote: We're currently trying to sort out the non-free status of scsh within Debian. Most of the issues are unambiguous, however, I'd like to see some more opinions on the following two clauses

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Barak Pearlmutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;;; 2. Users of this software agree to make their best efforts (a) ;;; to return to the T Project at Yale any improvements or ;;; extensions that they make, so that these may be included in This clause is moot, because The T Project at Yale has

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Barak Pearlmutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] This clause is moot, because The T Project at Yale has not existed for the last fifteen years. I grabbed the source and looked at it. As Daniel wrote, there are three files with this clause in them. The one that references the T Project implements

Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-18 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Nov 17, 2003, at 11:16, John Goerzen wrote: This is only useful if you do not have a valid defense for the problem already. In other words, it is only useful as a strong-arm tactic to let your own company effectively ignore patents of others. After all, if the lawsuit filed against you

Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-18 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Nov 17, 2003, at 13:35, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 10:15:40AM -0800, Ken Arromdee wrote: I'm a software developer. So the services of one may, under some circumstances, cost me nothing at all (except my spare time). I don't think patent lawyers can get cheaper than

Re: possible licensing issues with some scsh source files

2003-11-18 Thread MJ Ray
On 2003-11-18 19:07:18 + Barak Pearlmutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aren't removed, Barak Pearlmutter cannot guarantee that he will not give your phone number to his ex-wife. That should get results. What, no automatic weapons?

Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License,

2003-11-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 03:48:12PM -0500, Joe Moore wrote: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgNo=24 Thanks. I think the new S5 looks like this: 5. Reciprocity. If You institute patent litigation against any entity (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a