Quite the string of self-replies. Sorry about that. Didn't expect to
turn up a run of interesting precedents with merchantability in
various circuits after implied warranty was such a dud in the Ninth.
In short, I begin to fear that _any_ GPL contributor who isn't
shielded by having acted in
Once more unto the breach, so to speak.
I wrote:
But if a Linux distro qualifies as a consumer
good, other laws may apply -- conspicuously California's Song-Beverly
Consumer Warranty Act (
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cacodes/civ/1792-1795.7.html ). I am by
no means convinced that the GPL
This is the last installment of implied warranty citations for a
while, I promise. Forgive me for spamming; this suddenly seemed
important to me once Sean pointed out that no end user acceptance of
warranty disclaimer could be a problem.
Wow. Depending on which version of UCC 2318 a given state
Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
If I were defending, say, an Ogg/Vorbis implementation [...] I
would argue that a wavelet transform is sufficiently different [...]
Wavelet transforms are not the only thing the format supports, but it
may be usable to defend a particular
Morten Werner Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
THIS SOFTWARE IS NOT FAULT TOLERANT AND SHOULD NOT BE USED IN ANY
SITUATION ENDANGERING HUMAN LIFE OR PROPERTY.
I consider this as a warning to the user, and not a usage limitation
from the author. What do you think, and can the package go to
This license is in accordance with debian social contract?
VOSTROM Public License will be Open Source
http://oppleman.com/license/index.opp
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This license is in accordance with debian social contract?
VOSTROM Public License will be Open Source
http://oppleman.com/license/index.opp
This clause seems to rule out in-house versions:
| 7. no permission is granted to distribute, publicly display, or
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| 7. no permission is granted to distribute, publicly display, or
| publicly perform modifications to the Distribution made using
| proprietary materials that cannot be released in source format under
| conditions of this license;
While this is probably DFSG-free, it can be very obnoxious,
This is package.
Package: layer-four traceroute
Debian: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/lft
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| 7. no permission is granted to distribute, publicly display, or
| publicly perform modifications to the Distribution made using
| proprietary materials that cannot be released in source format under
| conditions of this license;
While this is probably
On 7/14/05, Sean Kellogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
but nothing worth quibbling over. Obviously the GPL prohibits a pop-up which
cannot be removed by a later distributor. My only contention was that as a
distributor, if I wanted extra assurance that those I was distributing to saw
the GPL,
On 7/13/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's difficult to create JPEG image rendering software without using
technologies described by MP3 patents.
On 7/13/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So do tell us where MP3 patents fit -- what patents, which claims, and
what
On 7/15/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I very carefully made a distinction between technology described by
the patents and patented technology in the message you're responding
to.
One example of technology where this distinction should be clear is
the use of time - frequency
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Michael K. Edwards wrote:
The Federal
Circuit, en banc, characterized one defendant's reliance on a similar
statistic (offered by their counsel and apparently relied on in good
faith to the extent that that means anything) as flagrant disregard
of presumptively valid patents without
I have copied the Executive Contact and the Legal Counsel for Xiph.org
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to Ogg/Vorbis. Mr. Rosedale and Mr. Moffitt: the topic of MP3 patents
arose on debian-legal (thread at
On 7/15/05, Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael K. Edwards wrote:
The Federal
Circuit, en banc, characterized one defendant's reliance on a similar
statistic (offered by their counsel and apparently relied on in good
faith to the extent that that means anything) as
Oh, and by the way: get the letter quoted at
http://ballsome.org/index.php/news/100 on corporate letterhead, and
Debian and most of its users are probably (IMHO, IANAL, TINLA) golden
WRT both MP3 encoding and decoding, anywhere that reliance to one's
detriment and substantial non-infringing use
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
This clause resembles the extended copyleft provisions of the Affero
General Public License. Has debian-legal reached consensus on that
license?
Only that it sucks, I think, not whether it's for main or not. There
were one or two people willing to
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Personally, I would be little more inclined to rely on the continued
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FWIW, I would not touch SNEeSe or any fragment derived from it with a
ten-foot pole unless they can tell you where sneese.dat came from and
what's in it. My guess is that it is an infringing copy of the
contents of an SNES64 ROM and that the history of its
Jack Moffitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[snip, chop, trim]
Before we released Ogg Vorbis beta 1, we did indeed hire a patent
specializing attorney to go over the MP3 suite of patents. He only
thought it necessary to issue a formal opinion on a single one of these
patents. We were advised
Thanks very much to Mr. Moffitt for weighing in!
On 7/15/05, Jack Moffitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just a quick note on this thread. Time seems to have erased the memory
of Thompson going after everyone. 8hz-enc, bladeenc, lame, and many
other projects have shut down (from cease and desist
On 7/15/05, Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. why was the opinion not to be divulged publically?
Whether or not the attorney requests that the opinion not be made
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On 7/15/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you point me to a brief but technical summary of some of the Ogg
Vorbis codecs? I would be curious to compare them against the MP3
techniques, about which I know at least a little bit.
I am _not_ trying to create trouble here;
I wrote:
By the way, where did you get the numbers in floor1_inverse_dB_table?
If that's an important part of the psycho-acoustic magic, its
provenance needs documenting, or it could get ugly in a court of fact
when an expert witness lies with numbers. The general public can't
tell what the
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 06:20:14PM -0600, Jack Moffitt wrote:
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arose on
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(Follow-ups to debian-legal, please.)
FWIW, I would not touch SNEeSe or any fragment derived from it with a
ten-foot pole unless they can tell you where sneese.dat came from and
what's in it. My guess is that it is an infringing copy
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