Re: Rules for submitting licenses for review

2005-08-23 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
quote who=Ricardo Gladwell date=Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 01:45:25AM +0100 I've still yet to figure out exactly what the Creative Commons stands for but I don't really see them taking a stance similar to free software in a few areas, such as non-commercial licenses. I agree completely and Richard

Re: Rules for submitting licenses for review

2005-08-23 Thread Dave Hornford
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 06:09:36PM +0100, Ricardo Gladwell wrote: 1) they consider the OGL to be similar to how Linux is licensed. I think this is a dubious claim I think is speaks more to a light understanding of how Linux is licenced and the OGL structured than anything else. If

Re: Rules for submitting licenses for review

2005-08-23 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 12:09 pm, Dave Hornford wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 06:09:36PM +0100, Ricardo Gladwell wrote: 1) they consider the OGL to be similar to how Linux is licensed. I think this is a dubious claim I think is speaks more to a light understanding of how Linux is

Re: Rules for submitting licenses for review

2005-08-23 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:47:22 +0100 Andrew Suffield wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 12:49:57PM +0100, Ricardo Gladwell wrote: [...] I actually find few people agree that the freedoms that apply to software should similarly apply to other types of work, especially digital works such as

PHP License

2005-08-23 Thread Charles Fry
Hi, I am working with other members of the Debian devlopment team to include many of your fine PEAR packages in Debian. One recurring problem has been consistently arising however, that we have had a hard time addressing at the correct level, which is why I am contacting you about it. The

Re: Rules for submitting licenses for review

2005-08-23 Thread Raul Miller
On 8/22/05, Ken Arromdee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that the GPL says if you obey this license, you can do these things that you otherwise can't do. The OGL says if you obey this license, you can do these things that are otherwise legal anyway, we just promise not to bankrupt

Re: [PEAR-QA] PHP License

2005-08-23 Thread Alan Knowles
While I agree we probably need to review 3-5.. It may be worth reminding debial-legal that AFAIK packages like phpgroupware, phpbb etc. violate the PHP licence.. So I do hope they are addressing those issues with as much vigor... ;) The easiest solution is probably need to call this the PEAR

Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [PEAR-QA] PHP License

2005-08-23 Thread Joe Stump
I agree. I never understood why we used the PHP license over, say, the BSD or LGPL (which both fit library level type code a lot better IMO). To have the license require distribution of PHP is a little odd. What I'm a tad more confused about is why anyone would maintain their packages through apt

Re: [PEAR-QA] PHP License

2005-08-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 05:46:58PM -0700, Joe Stump wrote: odd. What I'm a tad more confused about is why anyone would maintain their packages through apt instead of pear. pear upgrade Package_Name - or - pear upgrade-all Translates about as well as apt-get install

Re: [PEAR-DEV] PHP License

2005-08-23 Thread Ian Eure
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 03:30 pm, Charles Fry wrote: (snip) The problem is that the current version of The PHP License (version 3.0) contains several clauses which are specific to the PHP language, and either inapplicable or even problematic for applications written in PHP. This is quite

Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [PEAR-QA] PHP License

2005-08-23 Thread Ian Eure
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 05:46 pm, Joe Stump wrote: I agree. I never understood why we used the PHP license over, say, the BSD or LGPL (which both fit library level type code a lot better IMO). To have the license require distribution of PHP is a little odd. What I'm a tad more confused about

Re: [PEAR-QA] Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [PEAR-QA] PHP License

2005-08-23 Thread Ian Eure
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 09:34 pm, Justin Patrin wrote: On 8/23/05, Ian Eure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 23 August 2005 05:46 pm, Joe Stump wrote: I agree. I never understood why we used the PHP license over, say, the BSD or LGPL (which both fit library level type code a lot

Re: [PEAR-QA] Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [PEAR-QA] PHP License

2005-08-23 Thread Justin Patrin
On 8/23/05, Ian Eure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 23 August 2005 05:46 pm, Joe Stump wrote: I agree. I never understood why we used the PHP license over, say, the BSD or LGPL (which both fit library level type code a lot better IMO). To have the license require distribution of PHP is

Re: [PEAR-QA] Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [PEAR-QA] PHP License

2005-08-23 Thread Arnaud Limbourg
Can you please make this another thread, this is outside the scope of the original message :) Arnaud. Ian Eure wrote: On Tuesday 23 August 2005 09:34 pm, Justin Patrin wrote: On 8/23/05, Ian Eure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 23 August 2005 05:46 pm, Joe Stump wrote:

Re: [PEAR-QA] Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [PEAR-QA] PHP License

2005-08-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 09:34:18PM -0700, Justin Patrin wrote: On 8/23/05, Ian Eure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 23 August 2005 05:46 pm, Joe Stump wrote: I agree. I never understood why we used the PHP license over, say, the BSD or LGPL (which both fit library level type code a

Re: Rules for submitting licenses for review

2005-08-23 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Raul Miller wrote: The problem is that the GPL says if you obey this license, you can do these things that you otherwise can't do. The OGL says if you obey this license, you can do these things that are otherwise legal anyway, we just promise not to bankrupt you with