Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-25 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Marco d'Itri wrote: We provide the guidelines that we use to determine if a work is free in the document entitled The Debian Free Software Guidelines. We promise that the Debian system and all its components will be free according to these guidelines. I do not see other criteria

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-25 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Josselin Mouette wrote: I don't know about the US - and if this is enough to make a license non-free, this will give another reason to resurrect the non-us archive - but in other countries, the author could only sue the user in the latter's juridiction (if the juridiction word ever makes

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 24 May 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: That said, the typical argument is that giving up your right to have cases tried in your local venue is a fee or royalty, and as such violates DFSG ?1. Just to underline this some more in case it's still not clear why this is a fee, or even why if not

Boost License

2007-05-25 Thread Shriramana Sharma
http://boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt attached. Please verify DFSG-freeness and add to http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses Thank you. Shriramana Sharma. Boost Software License - Version 1.0 - August 17th, 2003 Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person or organization obtaining

Re: Boost License

2007-05-25 Thread Michael Poole
Shriramana Sharma writes: http://boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt attached. Please verify DFSG-freeness and add to http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses Thank you. Shriramana Sharma. Boost Software License - Version 1.0 - August 17th, 2003 Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any

Re: Request for suggestions of DFSG-free documentation licences

2007-05-25 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Thanks for all your feedback, but the GPL also has some clauses that are not applicable to documentation as pointed out at: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyNotGPLForManuals I thought of using the Boost license: http://boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt but it is not listed at:

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-25 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Don Armstrong wrote: To underline, the following clauses in the CDDL are problematic: 9. MISCELLANEOUS [...] This License shall be governed by the law of the jurisdiction specified in a notice contained within the Original Software (except to the extent applicable law, if any,

Re: Bug #383316: Derivative works for songs

2007-05-25 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Francesco Poli wrote: We must determine what is the preferred form for making modifications to the song. I'm not sure an Ogg Vorbis + MIDI form qualifies... What sort of modifications? ...Actually, a concept from copyright law may help here. There are *two* copyrights on any given recording.

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-25 Thread Michael Poole
Nathanael Nerode writes: with the losing party responsible for costs, including, without limitation, court costs and reasonable attorneys' fees and expenses. Haven't heard much if any comment on this. Fee shifting distorts the default legal environment in the United States. European

Re: Request for suggestions of DFSG-free documentation licenses

2007-05-25 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Shriramana Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all your feedback, but the GPL also has some clauses that are not applicable to documentation as pointed out at: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyNotGPLForManuals Debian does not agree with the FSF opinion on this. The FSF's

Re: (C) vs. ©

2007-05-25 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Shriramana Sharma wrote: Hello. I have heard that in copyright declarations like: --- Copyright (C) 2007, Company X, Country Y. All rights reserved. --- it is incorrect to use (C) in place of the symbol © which is the strict copyright symbol. Is this so? This is not legal

Re: (C) vs. whatever

2007-05-25 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Anthony W. Youngman - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Giacomo A. Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Finney wrote: [the (C) sequence is] possibly not a valid copyright indicator. The © symbol is

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-25 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes with the losing party responsible for costs, including, without limitation, court costs and reasonable attorneys' fees and expenses. Haven't heard much if any comment on this. Dunno what UK law actually is on this,

Re: Request for suggestions of DFSG-free documentation licenses

2007-05-25 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes If this is the same company which is licensing its software under a dual GPL-and-proprietary model, I think it probably makes the most sense for your company to simply license the manual under the GPL. This means that your

Re: Request for suggestions of DFSG-free documentation licences

2007-05-25 Thread Ben Finney
Shriramana Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for all your feedback, but the GPL also has some clauses that are not applicable to documentation as pointed out at: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyNotGPLForManuals If you re-read that section, it mostly addresses the FSF's