Re: Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
, it is usually a bad idea to use ciphers that have not been thoroughly analyzed by experienced cryptographers. I've never heard of Sapphire II or Michael Paul Johnson and, although that doesn't mean it is not secure, it is a bit worrying. -- Ben Pfaff http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: public domain, take ∞

2008-10-20 Thread Ben Pfaff
it as though it were a work to which any and all copyrights have expired. s/threat/treat/ -- Ben Pfaff http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-09-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
of this available at repo.or.cz, via the mob branch: http://repo.or.cz/mob.html -- Ben Pfaff http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Acknowledgment clause in GPL code?

2006-12-21 Thread Ben Pfaff
prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change. -- Ben Pfaff email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-28 Thread Ben Pfaff
usage. What about modification and distribution? -- Ben Pfaff email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: question about IEEE OUI data

2006-07-24 Thread Ben Pfaff
not copyrightable in the United States, in the same way that a phone book is not copyrightable. I wouldn't presume to say anything about other countries, but that's my guess about the U.S. -- Ben Pfaff email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-26 Thread Ben Pfaff
looks them up in a book each time he needs them, then that's just bad programming style, not a failure to make source available. -- Ben Pfaff email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Bug#281672: marked as done (autoconf: non-free documentation)

2004-11-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Debian Bug Tracking System ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041123 20:55]: * Removed documentation. Hope this makes everyone happy. Closes: #281671, #281672, #143536. No, it doesn't. I hope that you don't mind to much for speaking that. Take it up

Re: Bug#281672: marked as done (autoconf: non-free documentation)

2004-11-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Ben Pfaff wrote: They've concluded that the GNU FDL does not satisfy the DFSG, Yes. and that everything in Debian (apparently modulo licenses themselves) must satisfy the DFSG. No. The latest amendment to the social contract

Re: ITP some 13 years old code with unknown license

2004-10-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
.README.html which listed these email addresses for the author: old: mcgill-vision!mouse new: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some Google searches based on these email addresses might be useful. -- Ben Pfaff email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://benpfaff.org

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
that is not a consensus here. The BSD license is DFSG-free because the DFSG explicitly states that it is free. The DFSG was written long before UC removed the advertising clause, so this is the version of the BSD license that the DFSG references. -- Ben Pfaff email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://benpfaff.org

Re: License for the Torque Resource Manager (RFC)

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Pfaff
this additional phrase: After December 31, 2001, only conditions 3-6 must be met Conditions 3 and 4 refer to condition 7. Is this license meant as some sort of sadistic logic puzzle for lawyers? -- Ben Pfaff email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://benpfaff.org

Re: Cryptlib licence

2004-03-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
Humberto Massa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...license for cryptlib...] Except for proper names, this is identical to the license for the libdb4.0 package, which is already in Debian main. -- Peter Seebach on managing engineers: It's like herding cats, only most of the engineers are already

Re: endorsements disclaimer as part of the warranty statement

2002-06-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
Jeff Licquia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If evil.c is under the GPL, then it can be modified for any purpose (including disabling its functionality). For most purposes, yes, but not for *any* purpose. See section 2(c) of the GPL for details: c) If the modified program normally reads

Re: GNU FDL 1.2 draft comment summary posted, and RFD

2002-06-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
Joe Wreschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Requiring the original source for documents is like requiring XCFs for e.g. all the GNOME icons. I'm sure they're all stored as XCF's originally, not PNGs. Yet no one complains, because PNG is an open format, editable with free tools. But by the logic

Open Card Consortium Source License - DFSG free?

2002-03-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
I'm thinking about packaging the Java-based Open Card Framework for use in accessing smart cards. It's freely available from www.opencard.org. I'm using it with a Java-based iButton (www.ibutton.org). The license is enclosed below, unchanged except for formatting to fit within standard email

Re: Open Card Consortium Source License - DFSG free?

2002-03-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone see a reason why it is not DFSG-free? The paragraph that bothers me the most is the one at the end of clause 3: Each Contributor agrees to provide condensed summaries of its Contributions

OpenCard license question

2002-03-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
Hello. I am interested in packaging the OpenCard Framework for use with the Debian GNU/Linux operating system (www.debian.org). Debian contains only free software, as defined by the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG), available from http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines I

Re: rat license.

2001-04-17 Thread Ben Pfaff
David Martinez CSIC RedIRIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The WB-ADPCM algorithm was developed by British Telecommunications plc. Permission has been granted to use it for non-commercial research and development projects. BT retain the intellectual property rights to this algorithm. This

Re: ATT source code agreement

2000-03-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
Stephen C. North [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, if delivering custom-modified software includes sharing source code with customers, the ATT Source Code Agreement further requires sharing the patches with ATT. If you keep the patches private my reading of the ATT license is that you can still

Re: GPLv3 suggestion to solve KDE/QT problem and others

2000-02-21 Thread Ben Pfaff
Adi Stav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then WHY did the FSF approve the QPL? Harmony was already on its way... Since when does the FSF approve of the QPL? The GNU webpage at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html says the following: The Qt Public License (QPL).

Re: x3270 licenses

2000-02-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
Brian Ristuccia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I recall a precedent here in the US where a document was not infected by the copyright on the fonts used therein. It seemed to say that so long as you've lawfully aquired a font, you're free to use it when typesetting any documents you like. You might

Re: From Corel on the EULA

1999-12-02 Thread Ben Pfaff
Erich Forler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is the =93Minor=94 clause a violation of the GPL? Some commentators have suggested that by requiring persons to certify that they are not a minor, or to have a parent or legal guardian agree to the terms to the GPL on their behalf, Corel has changed

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation o

1999-11-30 Thread Ben Pfaff
Seth David Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Caspian writes: On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Seth David Schoen wrote: This trend concerns me, too, but if you want to stop them, you will need to show why what they are doing is not only nasty but also illegal. Remember that the DFSG

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Ben Pfaff
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Debian GNU/Linux distribution (and the GPL) on which Corel Linux is based has no such requirements (that the end user be 18 years of age). Therefore Corel is itself BREAKING the license that allows them to modidy and redistribute GPLed

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Ben Pfaff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: It's time for us to bring suit against Corel for this can't download unless you're 18 stuff. That's not in our license and they know it. I've tried to help them several times, and they continue to be 100% clueless. I think at this point they are not

Re: MMIX license OK for main?

1999-11-12 Thread Ben Pfaff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: When I first looked at that license, I didn't see the Donald Knuth and assumed that license was written by some completely clue-less person. It's extremely ambiguous in that the changes are only permissible does not actually grant any rights - it just

lclint should be in main

1999-11-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
Currently, lclint has a non-free license listed in the package, and it is in the non-free section. However, as reported in Bug#43590, it is actually under the GNU GPL, as downloaded from http://www.sds.lcs.mit.edu/lclint/ Are you planning to fix this and upload into main for potato? I

Re: lclint should be in main

1999-11-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't notice the new license because they didn't bump the version number they only exchanged the license file in the distribution. I wondered about that. It seemed a little weird to me too and I wasn't sure if maybe I'd just misread the license the

Re: LPRng in stable non-free or wrong man page?

1999-11-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
Gerhard Poul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this is the last part of the lpc man page which is contained in debian-stable.=20 Why wasn't this on debian-legal? I'm moving it there. [...snip...] LPRng is distributed under the GNU software license for non-commercial use, the

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-11-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Previously Henning Makholm wrote: That's knowledge. Facts are not copyrightable, only particular expressions of facts are. Such as a particular way to express the format for the intermediate languag= e? No, file formats are not copyrightable,

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
[Note: I'm moving this to the debian-legal list.] Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show me the license on the version that they started with? I don't know what version they started with. However, the COPYING file

Re: [from -devel] Re: all rights reserved

1999-09-09 Thread Ben Pfaff
Chris Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sep 09, Itai Zukerman wrote: I've come across the following in one file of an otherwise GPL'ed set of code: /* simple password generator by XXX * copyright 1991, all rights reserved. * You can use this code as long as

Re: Jikes license

1999-08-03 Thread Ben Pfaff
Mike Goldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 4. COMMERCIAL DISTRIBUTION Frankly, I don't understand the full effects of this clause of the license. Other than that, it looks like a pretty good license to me, and unless I missed something as I was skimming through it, it's also DFSG compliant.

Re: the new IglooFTP license

1999-07-30 Thread Ben Pfaff
Samuel Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm quite curious about this: if a piece of code is released under no license, doesn't the author keep all the rights on the code ? Yes. Or is it implicitly thrown into 'public domain' ? Definitely not.

Re: the new IglooFTP license

1999-07-28 Thread Ben Pfaff
Samuel Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...former license was GPL...] Moreover, Jean-Marc re-released 0.6.1 under the Artistic license, which I don't know if he is allowed to do without changing the version number. Meanwhile, he implemented Igor's patch for VMS to one of those

Re: a fronted gpl for a non-free package

1999-06-20 Thread Ben Pfaff
Andrea Fanfani [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi i'm working on the package of tkxanim.=20 Tkxanim is a gpl front-end to the program xanim that is non-free. How does it interface to xanim? If it interfaces other than through some sort of command-line interface, you may need to get a license

Re: a fronted gpl for a non-free package

1999-06-20 Thread Ben Pfaff
Andrea Fanfani [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is tkxanim of any use without xanim? If so, then put it in main with suggests; otherwise, put it in contrib with depends. there is not an use for a front-end without the program but maybe you want only see how is his lookfeel without

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] And if someone writes a single-purpose GUI shell for the networking code in a certain proprietary desktop OS (to pick a completly random name, suppose the fancy GUI shell was called 'Netscape'), it

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Microsoft C library source is licensed for incorporation into applications, but Microsoft OSes are not. Before you make your final assertion of this datum, can you provide us with a copy of the MS

Re: NEC Licence (Work of US Gov. Employees)

1999-06-08 Thread Ben Pfaff
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotes Title 17: (b) The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends only to the material contributed by the author of such work, as distinguished from the preexisting material employed in

Re: bzflag license

1999-06-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
Juergen A. Erhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's a clause you seem to have overlooked, that I think makes it non-free (sorry): 3. A reasonable fee may be charged to copy this software. Any fee may be charged to support this software. This software may be

Re: ITP: xengine

1999-06-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
Remco Blaakmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 31 May 1999, Kenshi Muto wrote: License: == from README == Author: Kazuhiko Shutoh Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute without charge this software, documentation, images, etc. is

Re: (Fwd) Re: [awansink@ke.com.au: Re: Isn't a kde version of abiw

1999-05-28 Thread Ben Pfaff
Andrew Wansink [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, it just so happens that I have permission from abisource, I have had it all along actually. Nobody ever asked me whether abisource knew or not, they just started up with their know-nothing, know-it-all bullshit opinions which I

Re: IBM PUBLIC LICENSE - OpenSource?

1999-05-28 Thread Ben Pfaff
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: attached is a copy of IBM PUBLIC LICENSE, extracted from the just released Data Explorer 4.0 source. I don't know if this is the same as Jike's license, but I catched my eye that Freshmeat lists this thing as OpenSource. I have

Re: A Data License

1999-05-21 Thread Ben Pfaff
Matt.Wilkie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The license I'd like should: - be free of charge, money for distribution and handling is okay - have freedom to modify and change and combine with other data - keep original sources of data copyright notices in all distributions

Re: Abacus Portsentry License

1999-05-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
Comments below refer to the DFSG at http://www.debian.org/social_contract. Rene Mayrhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ** THIS SOFTWARE CONTAINS CONCEPTS AND TECHNIQUES THAT ARE PATENT PENDING

Re: Forking and relicensing issues

1999-05-09 Thread Ben Pfaff
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...license omitted...] Now what I want to know is: a) Can I just replace this file with the GPL (obviously the copyrights in the files will remain intact and all work will be attributed to the original authors)? It says you can, but I

Re: Corel Setup Design Proposal

1999-05-06 Thread Ben Pfaff
[Note: I am moving this to debian-legal, where it belongs.] Dave Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At this point I'm going to reiterate my concern about linking Qt to the GPL'd boot floppies code. Don't do it, it's a violation of license as far as I can tell. Bottom line is

Re: WTEST license conditions

1999-04-21 Thread Ben Pfaff
Gregor Hoffleit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: COPYRIGHT This software adheres to the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE. You can re-use portions of this software and create a modified version of the software only if the resultant work also adheres to GPL. COST The

Re: [brian@hyperreal.org: APSL 1.1 available for comment.]

1999-04-20 Thread Ben Pfaff
The URL to the APSL 1.1 is at http://publicsource.apple.com/apsl/ Still not acceptable: 9.1 Infringement. If any portion of, or functionality implemented by, the Original Code becomes the subject of a claim of infringement, Apple may, at its option: (a) attempt to

Re: APSL 1.1

1999-04-20 Thread Ben Pfaff
Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to Ben Pfaff: Maybe you think that the last clause in that paragraph, ``If Apple suspends Your rights... nothing in this License shall be construed to restrict You... from replacing the Affected Original Code...'', means

Re: Corel (was Re: your mail)

1999-04-14 Thread Ben Pfaff
Fredrick Paul Eisele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Pfaff wrote: Jeff Noxon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Although I certainly don't mind the suggestion of Corel getting one (many?) developer accounts, I'm not certain I like the idea of voting rights or access

Re: Is sha considered munition?

1999-04-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
Jens Ritter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While doing this I stumbled over this in the source: /* NIST Secure Hash Algorithm */ /* heavily modified by Uwe Hollerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] edu */ /* from Peter C. Gutmann's implementation as found in */ /* Applied Cryptography by Bruce

Re: Grail 0.6 license: DFSG-free? (and intent to adopt)

1999-04-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
Chris Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CNRI has released the 0.6 version of Grail with a new license; it appears to be DFSG-free (or at least that appears to be their intent, since they have no plans to develop it further). It looks DFSG-free to me.

Re: The APSL and Export Controls

1999-03-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to Joseph Carter: I _DO NOT_ like liars and that is exactly what you people at OSI are doing, lying to me. Hm. And the possibility that we just misjudged the license is entirely beyond your ability to believe, eh? I've never

Re: developers keys in contrib?

1999-03-26 Thread Ben Pfaff
Brian Ristuccia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that GNU Privacy Guard is available to do everything PGP does under a free license, is tehre any reason for the developers keys to be in contrib instead of main? Is there something here I'm missing? Yes: 2.1.3. The contrib section

Re: APSL Hidden Nasty's

1999-03-19 Thread Ben Pfaff
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A more serious question is whether a minor can license his own work without his guardian's consent. I don't think he can. I think that a court would rule that in doing so he is giving up valuable rights and that he is not competent to make the

Re: Need GPL exception statement for Qt-using code

1999-03-19 Thread Ben Pfaff
J.H.M. Dassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I need is a nicely phrased despite what the GPL requires, it's OK to link this code against Qt and redistribute the resulting binaries statement - can someone here provide one? I would put the following license on each file in the program.

Re: DNSsafe license

1999-03-17 Thread Ben Pfaff
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It also looks like it could have to go into non-us. Do the US export restrictions cover software that is merely able to verify cryptographic signatures? Not AFAIK. md5sum, for instance, is in main.

Re: Apple Public Source License

1999-03-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
J.H.M. Dassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.publicsource.apple.com/apsl.html Apple is claiming that this is an Open Source license. However, it is not: 1. It has a termination clause similar to the IBM Secure Mailer license. (I'm not sure that this is actually an Open

Re: open source trademark

1999-02-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Ristuccia writes: http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,1014005,00.html If SPI still owns this mark, someone needs to send Sun Microsystems a cease-and-desist before we lose it. I see no evidence of infringement of the Open

Re: open source trademark

1999-02-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
Brian Ristuccia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, I see that as a comparison to open source, not a claim that their Community Source license is an open source license. This to me sounds like someone going on and on about the features and benefits of their alternate tone-based

Re: lprng license

1999-01-29 Thread Ben Pfaff
Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Starner wrote: -8= LPRng is distributed under the GNU software license for non-commercial use, the Artistic License for limited com=AD

Re: Mgetty should be in non-free?

1999-01-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is no problem with the payment details. Indeed the artistic and GPL make the same restriction. However, this doesn't give permission to modify. Does some other file give this permission? Yes, the complete license was not quoted. -- ...In

Include entire MPL in nqc package?

1998-12-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
I am working on packaging nqc, the Not Quite C compiler for the Lego Mindstorms set. The files in nqc are under the following license: /* * The contents of this file are subject to the Mozilla Public License * Version 1.0 (the License); you may not use this file except in * compliance with

Re: Your petition to GPL Qt

1998-12-20 Thread Ben Pfaff
Kevin Forge [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order for QT to qualify as a Debian system library it would have to be a 'required' package, and it would drag in X. No way are we going to bloat the system like that. The 'system library' idea thus fails for

Re: The license

1998-12-15 Thread Ben Pfaff
Robert Levin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the event an intellectual property claim is made or appears likely to be made with respect to the Software, you agree to permit IBM to enable you to continue to use the Software, or to modify it, or replace it with software that is at least

Re: Considering packaging: Microsoft Web Font pack

1998-12-06 Thread Ben Pfaff
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Restrictions on Alteration. You may not rename, edit or create any derivative works from the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, other than subsetting when embedding them in documents. This automatically makes it not DFSG free since we cannot alter