Re: Dispossessing the FSF

2006-02-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Thaddeus H. Black wrote: I used to be a flag-waving FSF patriot, but for reasons people familiar with the present GFDL GR debate will appreciate, the FSF has lost my trust. My question is as follows. The FSF retains special authority unilaterally to extend the GPL, LGPL, FDL, etc. For my

Re: PHP non-free or wrongly named?

2005-03-07 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin Schulze wrote: I've been informed about details of the PHP license: For php3: 5. The name PHP must not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without prior written permission from the PHP Development Team. This does not apply to add

Re: PHP non-free or wrongly named?

2005-02-21 Thread Martin Schulze
MJ Ray wrote: As a first attempt to fix, if it's thought to be a problem, can you ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] to give blanket permission for php packaging to be called PHP or PHP for distribution-or-package-system? Tried that, received: 996 N ! Feb 21 PHP Automoderator 117 PHP posting

Re: GPL compatible license?

2004-11-19 Thread Martin Schulze
Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Not sure if this is possible but would it be fine when modified to read: 3. Furthermore, if you distribute Elm software or parts of Elm, with or without additions developed by you or others, then you must make available

Re: GPL compatible license?

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Schulze
Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not sure if this is possible but would it be fine when modified to read: 3. Furthermore, if you distribute Elm software or parts of Elm, with or without additions developed by you or others, then you

Re: GPL compatible license?

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Schulze
Thanks for your input! Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Permission is hereby granted for copying and distribution of copies of the Elm source files, and that of any part thereof, subject to the following license conditions: 1. You may, without additional permission from

Re: GPL compatible license?

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Schulze
Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: A further issue: it never defines Elm Documentation, though it capitalizes it as if it were a proper noun. So it's not clear to me whether this is trying to claim rights to Elm Documentation I write, independent of any copyrighted words produced by EDG. I'd say it

Re: GPL compatible license?

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Schulze
Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could somebody check if this license is compatible with the GPL? It was considered free with Debian, if I remember correctly. 1. You may, without additional permission from the authors, distribute Elm

Re: GPL compatible license?

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Schulze
Thanks Andrew! Andrew Suffield wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:46:33AM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: 3. Furthermore, if you distribute Elm software or parts of Elm, with or without additions developed by you or others, then you must either make available the source to all

GPL compatible license?

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Could somebody check if this license is compatible with the GPL? It was considered free with Debian, if I remember correctly. I'm a bit worried about 4. 'may not omit any of the copyright notices on [..] the executable file. Regards, Joey

Our Stance on new Sender ID Revision?

2004-10-28 Thread Martin Schulze
Moin, According to a Reuters story, Microsoft's Sender-ID standard has been revised and will be resubmitted to the IETF. I wonder what people are thinking about this revision. Do we have a common stance on it? Here are URLs on it:

Re: Debian domain in Japan (Was: Please add us to debian CD vendors list)

2004-08-10 Thread Martin Schulze
Josh Triplett wrote: Another vendor using the Debian domain. I'm not sure if there is anything we can do about it but though at least you'd like to know someone has done this in Japan. Hmm, should we try to claim not to use debian domain? I'm not familiar about domain name dispute

Re: Squeak in Debian?

2004-04-28 Thread Martin Schulze
Roland Stigge wrote: today I read that Alan Kay will receive this years's Turing Award[1] and checked out his Open Source project Squeak[2]. I also realized that there is an open RFP for it[3]. The package is supposed to be free, but when I checked the license[4] and the package files, I

Not inherently free, but inherently non-free?

2004-04-26 Thread Martin Schulze
I wonder if all documents licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License[1] are inherently non-free with regards to the Debian Free Software Guidelines[2]. I thought that if no invariant sections were used the document would still be considered free. However, if invariant sections were used

Re: Squeak in Debian?

2004-04-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Roland Stigge wrote: (2) Clause 2 also states: 'You may distribute and sublicense the Fonts only as a part of and for use with Modified Software, and not as a part of or for use with Modified Software that is distributed or sublicensed for a fee or for other valuable consideration.' 2

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-04-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Matthew Garrett wrote: Sami Liedes wrote: [Cc:'d to the reiser4progs maintainers. Please Cc: me when replying, I'm not subscribed to -legal.] Finally, nothing in this license shall be interpreted to allow you to fail to fairly credit me, or to remove my credits such as by creating a front

Severity of trademark problems

2004-03-28 Thread Martin Schulze
Moin! Bug#152857 requests freeamp to be removed from the stable distribution because upstream renamed (had to rename) itself into Zinf, because AMPR is a trademark of PlayMedia Systems. The website states: Zinf is based on the FreeAmp source code. However, AMPR is a trademark of PlayMedia

Re: POSIX manpages

2004-02-23 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin Schulze wrote: As of version 1.65 manpages from the POSIX standard are included with the following copyright note: The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers and The Open Group, have given us permission to reprint portions of their documentation

POSIX manpages

2004-02-22 Thread Martin Schulze
As of version 1.65 manpages from the POSIX standard are included with the following copyright note: The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers and The Open Group, have given us permission to reprint portions of their documentation. In the following statement, the phrase

Re: legalities of distributing debian pre-installed iso images.

2003-09-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: The CD itself did not include source packages due to space limitations. However, there's a writen statement that and where you can request the corresponding source. We have two sets of a 3-cd source archive for this CD. This is the same as for last LinuxTag special

Re: getting personalities out of the FSF-Debian argument

2003-09-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Bruce Perens wrote: Richard, Branden, and Co., I remain convinced that hot tempers are getting in the way. Thus, I would like to make two requests: 1. That the Debian folks designate someone other than Branden to speak the Debian side of this argument. Diplomacy counts. Branden, please

Re: legalities of distributing debian pre-installed iso images.

2003-09-08 Thread Martin Schulze
In general, if http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/legal doesn't answer your questions sufficiently, please let us know what is missing so we can alter the content. Sven Luther wrote: Also, i have a question about the single CD that was distributed at LinuxTag for example, did it also include the

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-30 Thread Martin Schulze
Branden Robinson wrote: === CUT HERE === Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 Please mark with an X the item that most closely approximates your opinion. Mark only one. [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published by

Re: FFII-online-protest against patents

2003-08-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Felix E. Klee wrote: I guess that most of you are informed about software patents and know that they are incompatible with most, if not all, free software licenses (if not visit http://tinyurl.com/k64f). No need to encrypt and hide URLs or did I miss something important? While planning this

Re: migrating away from the FDL

2003-07-21 Thread Martin Schulze
Mathieu Roy wrote: My question is: what's the right way to do this? If all contributors agree, can I just drop the FDL from my 'legalese' paragraphs, replacing it with a reference to the GPL, or do I have to mention the fact that previous versions were licensed under the FDL? Do I have to

Re: Outcome of PHPNuke discussion

2003-06-02 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve Langasek wrote: I think a web-based message board clearly reads commands interactively. So, if there is such a notice, you can't remove it. But you could alter its form, so long as it is still appropriate. I guess this case is difficult, since you could interpret each php

Re: Outcome of PHPNuke discussion

2003-06-01 Thread Martin Schulze
Glenn Maynard wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 09:33:33PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: I'm sorry, but I'm totally lost in the discussion. Do we (=Debian) buy the statement from the FSF that the copyright notice at the bottom of any phpnuke-generated page must not be removed

Outcome of PHPNuke discussion

2003-05-29 Thread Martin Schulze
I'm sorry, but I'm totally lost in the discussion. Do we (=Debian) buy the statement from the FSF that the copyright notice at the bottom of any phpnuke-generated page must not be removed and that this is not a new restriction to the GPL? I see that phpnuke is still in main in testing and

Re: A funny game

2003-05-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 10:19:45AM -0500, Debian Press Team wrote: Thank you for your interest in the Debian Project! Debian Press Team, Please don't spam the Debian Legal Team. Thanks! Please bug the spammer so it doesn't send mail with headers like: From:

Are future versions of OpenSSL going to be less free?

2002-09-24 Thread Martin Schulze
This could affect us as well. It talks about a donation from Sun that includes patents and: ``the licence on the new code basically builds a contract that says if you use this code, you cannot sue Sun''. Full article: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=103280816316720w=2 Here's an

Do Debian patches violate the GPL?

2002-09-06 Thread Martin Schulze
The GNU GPL says: 2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided

Re: New MP3 License Terms Demand $0.75 Per Decoder

2002-08-27 Thread Martin Schulze
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml New MP3 License Terms Demand $0.75 Per Decoder *Posted by chrisd[1] on Tuesday August 27, @03:27PM* *from the good-thing-ogg-is-up-to-speed dept.* Götz[2] writes The licensing terms of Thomson and the Fraunhofer

Re: Summary

2002-07-23 Thread Martin Schulze
Thomas Bliesener wrote: Perhaps it's worth to mention 3b): b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, ... How is that different to (2)? (2) The distributor

Re: Summary

2002-07-23 Thread Martin Schulze
Thomas Bliesener wrote: CDs are bloody cheap only if you produce a certain amount of them (e.g. 2000 Debian CD sets which would be 28,000 CDs). If you produce only 500 Nice calculation... *shiver* *fear* Regards, Joey -- The good thing about standards is that there are so many to

Re: Summary (was: Distributing GPL Software as binary ISO)

2002-07-23 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 10:26:57AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Could people please comment on http://master.debian.org/~joey/legal.en.html Could you reread and check? I plan to add this to http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ and would like the advice

Re: Summary (was: Distributing GPL Software as binary ISO)

2002-07-23 Thread Martin Schulze
Richard Braakman wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 09:39:08AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Mentioning option 3 at all seems misleading, IMHO. No one burning CDs from our archive receives such an offer, so it should be made clear that even non-profits cannot exercise this option. Err

Re: Summary (was: Distributing GPL Software as binary ISO)

2002-07-22 Thread Martin Schulze
Could people please comment on http://master.debian.org/~joey/legal.en.html I plan to add this to http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ and would like the advice to be correct. Regards, Joey -- All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory... -- Larry Wall

Summary (was: Distributing GPL Software as binary ISO)

2002-07-21 Thread Martin Schulze
I'm trying a summary here. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Distributing GPL'ed software in object code or executable form, either as CD image through the Internet or as pressed or burned CD, requires the distributor (commercial or non-commercial doesn't seem to matter) to advise the person, who

Distributing GPL Software as binary ISO

2002-07-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi, a discussion arose recently and I'd like to discuss the outcome and the way to go. The current status quo: a) Company A collects .deb files from Debian and builds an ISO file that runs the system (life system). This ISO only contains binary packages, no source. This CD is

Re: Distributing GPL Software as binary ISO

2002-07-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Chris Lawrence wrote: In other words: you have opened a massive can of worms. :-) *looking innocent* It wasn't me... :-) But I'd like the issue solved so there's a clear statement for people, companies and entities to get pointed to in order to preserve them from license infringement. Regards,

Re: Distributing GPL Software as binary ISO

2002-07-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve Langasek wrote: 4. What would be the proper way to solve this problem if a) or b) are not in complience with the license terms? Are you asking what A and B should do if they wish to bring themselves into compliance, or are you asking what can be done to legally force them to?

Re: existing FDL documentation won't hurt

2001-12-10 Thread Martin Schulze
Bernd Warken wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 06:54:12PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:59:47PM +0100, Bernd Warken wrote: Some time ago, there was a discussion to make documents under the GNU Free Documentation License (FDL) unfree for Debian. Some time ago,

Re: Licence question

2001-11-08 Thread Martin Schulze
Maximilian Reiss wrote: I intend to package the liquid kde theme by mosfet. (www.mosfet.org/liquid.html). The Licence problem is, that this theme is under qpl, but is linked against kdelibs (gpl). I was told that this is a problem. Is there any chance to get it into debian? Wasn't the QPL

Re: Open Source Motif

2000-05-15 Thread Martin Schulze
J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: TOG have released Motif under an Open Source license which isn't. (See also /. coverage at http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/05/15/1229207 ) Quoting http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/license/: Open Source programs mean software for which the source code is

Re: Is this license DFSG compliant?

2000-01-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Denis Barbier wrote: I can not determine whether this license is DFSG compliant or not, and i do not agree with opinions expressed on comp.text.tex about my questions. So could someone confirm this is DFSG compliant, as claimed by the LaTeX Team ? I put `-' marks in front of the 3 lines

Re: [f.kunkel@ecomp.net: LOGO]

2000-01-05 Thread Martin Schulze
James A. Treacy wrote: The legal team may want to think about the following. - Forwarded message from Florian Kunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] - We just discovered some similarities in the DEBIAN logo with the logo of the DWD (german weather services) (www.dwd.de). To differentiate more

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation o

1999-11-30 Thread Martin Schulze
Richard Stallman wrote: What bothers me with Corel is not them using Debian, but rather they fact that they gave nothing back to us or the community. Not code, time, or money. What Corel-written programs are in the distribution, and what are their licenses? Are any of them free

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-11-29 Thread Martin Schulze
Caspian wrote: So let's see what happens if we create a Corel Linux workalike by: A: Downloading Corel Linux B: Ripping out all the non-free software parts and C: Replacing them. then... D: Publicizing this heavily. This would be fun. And it would be a free easy Redistribution of

Re: Intent to Package: bladeenc 0.81

1999-07-10 Thread Martin Schulze
Brian Ristuccia wrote: How does the patented technology in bladeenc affect Debian more than the patented technology in gimp-nonfree? Does some sort of universal grant of rights apply to the LZW patent that is not present for the mp3 technology in bladeenc? I'm confused about why it even

New list debian-legal

1998-11-29 Thread Martin Schulze
Upon request I've creted the `debian-legal' list. It's purpose is to discuss licensing issues. Regards, Joey -- VFS: no free i-nodes, contact Linus -- finlandia, Feb '94