Re: Debian License agreement

2007-04-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-24 23:08:31, schrieb Vsevolod Krishchenko: On Saturday 24 March 2007 22:53, you wrote: find /usr/share/doc -name copyright|xargs tar czf I_Love_Russia.tar.gz That gives the Russian authorities something to read. :) Sad point is it must be translated (at least unofficial

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Steve Langasek: Yes, it's a pity that the Russian authorities should misunderstand the nature of software licensing to such a degree. Copyrighted works redistributable under permissive licenses are a tough problem for law enforcement world-wide, not just Russian authorities. 8-(

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-26 Thread Vsevolod Krishchenko
On Sunday 25 March 2007 04:37, Ben Finney wrote: EULA must say yes, Debian really consists only of such software which not restrict any party from using, selling or giving away the software etc etc There is no warranty on anything in Debian, because Debian is licensed freely to all

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-26 Thread Vsevolod Krishchenko
On Monday 26 March 2007 22:20, Florian Weimer wrote: Copyrighted works redistributable under permissive licenses are a tough problem for law enforcement world-wide, not just Russian authorities. 8-( http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology /article733264.ece

Changing the mental landscape for software sharing (was: Debian License agreement)

2007-03-26 Thread Ben Finney
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Copyrighted works redistributable under permissive licenses are a tough problem for law enforcement world-wide, not just Russian authorities. 8-( http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article733264.ece

Debian License agreement

2007-03-24 Thread Vsevolod Krishchenko
Hi everybody, I fear that it is sound stupid but I wonder does such thing like Debian EULA exit? FC, for example, has EULA (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/EULA) The reason I asked this question is authorities here in Russia may require license agreement to entire system used

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-24 Thread Bart Martens
On Sat, 2007-03-24 at 22:27 +0300, Vsevolod Krishchenko wrote: Hi everybody, I fear that it is sound stupid Not to me. :) but I wonder does such thing like Debian EULA exit? FC, for example, has EULA (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/EULA) I have not yet seen such EULA

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, Vsevolod Krishchenko wrote: I fear that it is sound stupid but I wonder does such thing like Debian EULA exit? FC, for example, has EULA (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/EULA) The reason I asked this question is authorities here in Russia may require

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-24 Thread Vsevolod Krishchenko
On Saturday 24 March 2007 22:55, Don Armstrong wrote: Surely this only applies to people who are selling stuff rather than giving it away? It applies to people that use debian in business/education/etc. :( As far as an overall license, there isn't one, but we try to make sure that works

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-24 Thread Vsevolod Krishchenko
On Saturday 24 March 2007 22:53, you wrote: find /usr/share/doc -name copyright|xargs tar czf I_Love_Russia.tar.gz That gives the Russian authorities something to read. :) Sad point is it must be translated (at least unofficial translation) into Russian! :( -- Vsevolod -- To

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-24 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Vsevolod! You wrote: I fear that it is sound stupid but I wonder does such thing like Debian EULA exit? FC, for example, has EULA (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/EULA) Well, in a sense the Debian Free Software Guidelines [1] are a Debian EULA. [1]

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-24 Thread Vsevolod Krishchenko
Hi Bas. You wrote: I fear that it is sound stupid but I wonder does such thing like Debian EULA exit? FC, for example, has EULA (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/EULA) Well, in a sense the Debian Free Software Guidelines [1] are a Debian EULA. It is close, but still it

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 11:07:26PM +0300, Vsevolod Krishchenko wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2007 22:55, Don Armstrong wrote: Surely this only applies to people who are selling stuff rather than giving it away? It applies to people that use debian in business/education/etc. :( As far as

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-24 Thread Vsevolod Krishchenko
On Sunday 25 March 2007 00:21, Steve Langasek wrote: There is no EULA for Debian because an EULA is a license which *restricts* what the user is allowed to do with his own copy of the software. We place no restrictions on the use of the software and require that our upstreams don't do so

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-24 Thread Ben Finney
Vsevolod Krishchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 25 March 2007 00:21, Steve Langasek wrote: There is no EULA for Debian because an EULA is a license which *restricts* what the user is allowed to do with his own copy of the software. We place no restrictions on the use of the

Re: Debian License agreement

2007-03-24 Thread Ben Finney
Vsevolod Krishchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [DFSG] is close, but still it is just guideline for software. Which all works in Debian must conform to, or be under threat of removal from the project for having a release-critical bug. EULA must say yes, Debian really consists only of such