Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050727 18:45]: On 7/27/05, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, I don't? I said that the other guidelines are *applicable* to non-program works, and *should be applied* to non-program works -- not that, as presently written, we are obliged to apply

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs?

2005-07-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Francesco Poli: But if you propose to disable DFSG#2 for non-programs, you have to propose a criterion to tell programs and non-programs apart. IOW, you must be able to tell when DFSG#2 must be applied and when it may be ignored... It's enough if we are sufficiently confident that such a

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-28 Thread Raul Miller
On 7/28/05, Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050727 18:45]: On 7/27/05, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd prefer to approach this issue from a different direction. The point behind the DFSG is that we need to be able to solve problems

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs?

2005-07-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:20:18 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote: Personally, I think that we can make this distinction, but actually, we shouldn't, at least for technical documentation which describes how a program works. If we change the program, we sometimes need to change the documentation. If

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:28:23AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 05:17:35 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: I think that clauses 6, 7, and 8 are applicable to documentation and data as well as to programs, and I think that they're rules that Debian should follow for everything

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-27 Thread Raul Miller
On 7/27/05, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, I don't? I said that the other guidelines are *applicable* to non-program works, and *should be applied* to non-program works -- not that, as presently written, we are obliged to apply them to non-program works. I'd prefer to approach

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs?

2005-07-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:52:15 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:28:23AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] I fail to understand how you justify your reading of program as program in DFSG#2 while you read program as work in the other guidelines at the same time. Uh, I

Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 05:17:35 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: I think that clauses 6, 7, and 8 are applicable to documentation and data as well as to programs, and I think that they're rules that Debian should follow for everything we distribute. I think that clause 2 is *not* clearly applicable

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:28:23 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote: [some hopefully useful contributions to the discussion, but with *wrong* Mail-Followup-To:] Please, ignore the wrong Mail-Followup-To: set in the my previous message. I forgot to disable it! :-( I really really apologize. Sylpheed